Hi Everyone, Are any of you LATHAM (etc) families, or anyone else, connected to Samuel FRY, son of Samuel FRY and Mary LATHAM, born 1857 Belfast / Port Fairy. He was a bootmaker in Neerim South by 1906, before moving his business at an unknown later date to Warragul. He died at Paynesville in 1953 aged 97. He was married to Annie Sarah BEDFORD, but I cannot find any children. Seeking a photograph of him, and of Harry Combs, bootmaker at Moe c.1910 to c.1966. There are two possible deaths for him in the indexes, so he died either 1965 (I did say he had the shop until c.1966!) or 1968. I cannot locate children for him either, although he did have a wife. The Bootmaker's shop at Old Gippstown was used by FRY, and the tools are those used by Harry COOMBS. Cheers Linda

Hello again Janda Further to my off-line messages, there are three references to Leon Wuttrich in "So Tall the Trees" - page 121: "Leon Wuttrich was one selector who took up the swamp blocks at the foot of the hill where the Retreat Hotel stood on conditional leasehold in 1899." page 164 - "together with a hospital opened by Leon Wuttrich in the 1920s, which became a Bush Nursing hospital in 1933 ..." page 172 - Near Moe a controversial deviation at Westbury took the Walhalla Road around Hennessy's Hill and through Leon Wuttrich's famous tree plantation in 1920 to avoid a steep grade over the hill." I assume that you are aware that the births of Leon & Ellen Wuttrich's five children are shown in the Vic births index - Leon 1895 (at sea), Melina 1896, Cosette 1898, Fred 1903 and Eva 1908. I feel sure that the Moe & District Historical Society would have more information about the family. Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janda Gooding" <Janda.Gooding@awm.gov.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: [AVG] Wuttrich / Cooper / Gooding families > Greetings listers, > I'm new to the list and hope someone out there can help me. I started > my family history recently and it seems most of my father's relatives > come from the Gippsland area. > > My paternal grandmother Vera May COOPER [1901-1985] was the daughter of > George Astley COOPER [b. DuckPonds Vic, 1865] and Jessie HASTHORPE. Vera > May COOPER married my future grandfather Clarence Alphonse GOODING [b. > Tanjil 1890 - d. Perth 1975] in 1928. He was the son of William Charles > GOODING and Marie Henrietta WUTTRICH [b.1863 Barrabool Hills - d. Tanjil > 1945], daughter of Alphonse Leon WUTTRICH [arr Aust 1854]. > > The GOODINGs and HASTHORPEs are well covered in Settlers to Selectors > by Joan Hasthorpe but I am keen to know more about the WUTTRICHs and if > the COOPERs are known in the Gippsland area. > > I'll be in east Gippsland in December so will be able to chase down > things if anyone has some leads for me to pursue. > > Janda Gooding > (researching Gooding, Cooper, Hasthorpe, Gowans, Bevis, Wuttrich, > Ceirinie and Varney families) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm interested in making contact with anyone researching this family, or can tell me anything about the hotel in Lindenow South. Penny Emma BAULCH 1872 - 1950 +William (Ludwig) MATHIESON 1872 - ........ Lindsay MATHIESON ........ William James MATHIESON 1894 - Unknown ........ Meta Blanche MATHIESON 1897 - 1898 ........ Amelia MATHIESON 1899 - 1899 William was either Danish or German. Emma and William were married at Ligar Street, Bairnsdale in 1893. From 1909-1913 they were living in Turnbull Street, Bairnsdale and William was working as a carrier. In 1914 the seemed to have moved to Lindenow South, where William was a hotelkeeper. By the 1920s they'd moved to Carlton. It's possible Emma ran a boarding house.

Dear Heather and list members, I'm glad that you're interested in some of these families Heather and I've also got a strange feeling you wrote to me years ago, though I may be wrong. I'll try to put all these interconnected families into some sort of order, so that you can see the link: maybe there are others now on the list who have information to share as well. All of these families are descendants of William and Ann Cockerell, who arrived as free settlers in Sorrento on the Ocean in 1803, then went on to settle Hobart in 1804. (I'm a Cockerell descendant as well.) Their daughter, Ann Elizabeth Cockerell, had three children to Thomas Myers: Nathaniel, Affia, and Sarah Ann. Sarah Ann first married John Felmingham, then had two liasons, the second with John Cymbolene Graham. Sarah and John Graham moved to Gippsland eventually, as did Sarah's son John Felmingham junior. Many of Sarah's descendants still in the Gippsland area. The second daughter, Affia, bigamously married the widowed George Scutt in Port Albert in the very early days of the settlement, but she has no descendants. Brother Nathaniel Myers became a whaling captain, based in Hobart, as did his cousins, the Mansfields, children of Affia (Sophia) and Michael Mansfield. Affia and Michael's daughter Susannah and her husband Ramsay Williamson also moved to Tarraville, in the very early days of settlement, and I believe their presence there was the reason Affia Myers moved to Tarraville to stay with them, when she found the brutal (documented) ways of her husband Louis Pilsbury too much. I am hoping to write a book on Susannah Williamson's three brothers, who were all whalers, and their cousin Nathaniel Myers, who was also a whaling captain. I'd read of that elusive piece of scrimshaw carved by Nat Myers, last seen in Gippsland in the 1980s in the home of one of Nat Myer's Felmingham ggreat-nieces, and this was the reason for my deleriously happy email recently, when I found it at last in the National Museum in Canberra. I had really hoped that I could locate it, to illustrate the book, when and if I ever write it! The Napper name comes in when one of Susannah Mansfield's daughters Affia married Simeon Napper, in Sale. If anyone has any information on Simeon Napper's ancestry I'd love to hear from them. I've located a Captain Napper, who sailed from Hobart to Port Albert frequently, and I guess this was Simeon's father and how Simeon and Affia Williamson met, either in Tarraville/Port Albert, or in Hobart while she was visiting her uncles or grandparents. (I'm aware of the more recent family history: it's the early days I'm more focussed on at the moment.) And if anyone can shed any further light on the relationship between Thomas Williamson and Ramsay Williamson, I'd be over the moon. Thomas named a daughter Clara Affia: that unique name again! However, we haven't been able to find a family connection as yet..I'm convinced there is one..... Sorry that this is so long, but at least I've been able to link all of these seemingly unrelated names for those who are interested.... Best wishes, Carol Brill, Melbourne.

Hello Viv, Our Latham family originated in Lancashire and lived in Manchester before emmigrating here to Victoria in 1849. We also have some Latham descendants now living in NZ. Another Latham ancestor George Ashton Latham moved to NZ and was part of the team that helped reclaim Napier after the 1935 earthquake. I know that there is another Latham family in NZ related to Harold Latham whom the Latham arch in Napier is named after but I have not been able to place this family. Maybe you are related to him? Lorene > Hi Lorene, where did your Latham family hail from ? I have family from > London/Gloucestershire 1830/40 whose descendents turned up in Australia > and NZ. > Viv >

Hi Lorene, where did your Latham family hail from ? I have family from London/Gloucestershire 1830/40 whose descendents turned up in Australia and NZ. Viv

Walter, Thank you for letting me know, I did not want a possible mention of the family to pass me by. Thanks again, Lorene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Savige" <savigew@hotkey.net.au> To: <aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] LATHAM family > Lorene, > > Many families are mentioned but I regret to state that there is no > reference > to LATHAM. > The diaries refer to life at Bonalbo, Kyogle, Wiangaree, Lynch's Creek > etc > during the period 1905 to 1918. > > Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul & Lorene" <latham@alphalink.com.au> > To: <aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AVG] LATHAM family > > >> Hello Walter, >> >> Do your uncle's diaries mentioned the LATHAM family at all? >> >> kind regards, >> Lorene >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lorene, Many families are mentioned but I regret to state that there is no reference to LATHAM. The diaries refer to life at Bonalbo, Kyogle, Wiangaree, Lynch's Creek etc during the period 1905 to 1918. Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Lorene" <latham@alphalink.com.au> To: <aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] LATHAM family > Hello Walter, > > Do your uncle's diaries mentioned the LATHAM family at all? > > kind regards, > Lorene > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Walter, Do your uncle's diaries mentioned the LATHAM family at all? kind regards, Lorene

Hi Janda, A family named Cooper lived at Trafalgar in the 1930s at a farm beside the Thorpdale road. Vic BDMs show the birth of Eustace Cooper son of Charles John Cooper and his wife Annie Eliza nee Lenford - possibly the same family. Incidentally, my uncle's diary entries contains references to Jessie's brothers Reg & Milton Hasthorpe after they moved to NSW if you are interested. Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janda Gooding" <Janda.Gooding@awm.gov.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: [AVG] Wuttrich / Cooper / Gooding families > Greetings listers, > I'm new to the list and hope someone out there can help me. I started > my family history recently and it seems most of my father's relatives > come from the Gippsland area. > > My paternal grandmother Vera May COOPER [1901-1985] was the daughter of > George Astley COOPER [b. DuckPonds Vic, 1865] and Jessie HASTHORPE. Vera > May COOPER married my future grandfather Clarence Alphonse GOODING [b. > Tanjil 1890 - d. Perth 1975] in 1928. He was the son of William Charles > GOODING and Marie Henrietta WUTTRICH [b.1863 Barrabool Hills - d. Tanjil > 1945], daughter of Alphonse Leon WUTTRICH [arr Aust 1854]. > > The GOODINGs and HASTHORPEs are well covered in Settlers to Selectors > by Joan Hasthorpe but I am keen to know more about the WUTTRICHs and if > the COOPERs are known in the Gippsland area. > > I'll be in east Gippsland in December so will be able to chase down > things if anyone has some leads for me to pursue. > > Janda Gooding > (researching Gooding, Cooper, Hasthorpe, Gowans, Bevis, Wuttrich, > Ceirinie and Varney families) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can see us Pedants coming in for a reminder about posting "off topic"!!! I thank you all for your contributions to my knowledge and apologise to Linda for starting this "off topic" thread. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Ward To: aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Indexes or Indices? Agreed! But "indices" is more correct!!

Agreed! But "indices" is more correct!! -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-gippsland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-gippsland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorraine Standfield Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 4:26 PM To: aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVG] Indexes or Indices? According to my dictionaries either is correct. I include an answer to the question found on the Internet. Lorraine "WikiAnswers Q: What is the plural of index? Historically, the plural of index is indices in order to retain its origins. Purists still retain this original spelling. However, English being such a language of immigrants often allows words to retain their original inflections AND Americanizes them at the same time! That means many today use indexes as the plural of index. …Here is your answer in many parts: Both indexes and indices are acceptable plurals for index in English - and in that order of preference today (Authority: Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster Dictionary, American Heritage Dictionary, and about 20 others of similar standing.) Usage on the internet indicates that mathematicians, those conservatives (!), prefer staying with the old standard of indices; computer folk, those mavericks (!), want to embrace the latest of everything including the plural of index, indexes. I don't see a real debate over indexes/indices spilling out onto the web in any other areas - which is surprising. Different camps have probably already made their choice, so depending on your field of study; continue to follow the examples written before you in your field's journals..." On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:11:06 +1100, Eric Tetlow wrote > Indexes is correct. Indices is a mathematical term. > > Eric. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a reminder for everyone, especially newer members, that the list archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND If you have just joined, you can go there and read up on the sort of things we have been discussing. If you have deleted something in error, you can go there and find it. Good little site to bookmark Cheers Linda At 01:20 PM 23/01/2008 +1100, Heather wrote: >I think I've missed some letters re this subject. >I have this lot in my family history. >Can someone please fill me in on the correspondence?

According to my dictionaries either is correct. I include an answer to the question found on the Internet. Lorraine "WikiAnswers Q: What is the plural of index? Historically, the plural of index is indices in order to retain its origins. Purists still retain this original spelling. However, English being such a language of immigrants often allows words to retain their original inflections AND Americanizes them at the same time! That means many today use indexes as the plural of index. …Here is your answer in many parts: Both indexes and indices are acceptable plurals for index in English - and in that order of preference today (Authority: Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster Dictionary, American Heritage Dictionary, and about 20 others of similar standing.) Usage on the internet indicates that mathematicians, those conservatives (!), prefer staying with the old standard of indices; computer folk, those mavericks (!), want to embrace the latest of everything including the plural of index, indexes. I don't see a real debate over indexes/indices spilling out onto the web in any other areas - which is surprising. Different camps have probably already made their choice, so depending on your field of study; continue to follow the examples written before you in your field's journals..." On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:11:06 +1100, Eric Tetlow wrote > Indexes is correct. Indices is a mathematical term. > > Eric.

Thanks a million, Pam. ----- Original Message ----- From: <phasmann@cyberspace.net.au> To: <aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Marjorie DUNN > Name: BARTLETT Hector > Age: 63yrs > Place: Collingwood > Year: 1885 > Ref. 504 > Cause: Suicide Hanged > Occupation: Plasterer > >

Heather Coleman I think I've missed some letters re this subject. I have this lot in my family history. Can someone please fill me in on the correspondence? Heather

Great news Carol. Regards Ada Carol wrote: > Dear All, > I then tried the Armstrong collection, with a similar lack of success. Finally, as an absolute last resort, I just typed in the single word 'scrimshaw'. Hey presto, the first item to come up was: "The Nathaniel Myers scrimshaw collection"!!!! It/they? was/were purchased by the National Museum of Australia in 2005...what a Eureka moment that was! > >

Good Morning Linda, I do not have a photo, but 858 Trooper Nicholas D. Tackaberry was educated at the Darnum and Yarragon state Schools. His job is listed as an Orchardist he was 29 years old on enlistment on 16 November 1914 and was posted to C Squadron 8th Light Horse Regiment. He was killed in action at the Charge of the Nek 7 August 1915 at Gallipoli when the Regiment suffered 154 killed and 146 wounded. His ID discs were recovered from no mans land, he has no known grave and is commemorated on the Lone Pine Memorial. He had three brothers serve in the Instructional Staff and a younger brother served with the AIF. Each Year 4/19 PWLH holds a Commemorative Dinner for the Charge at the Nek this year it is planned to have it in Sale. Neville -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-gippsland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-gippsland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Barraclough Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 1:28 PM To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVG] TACKABERRY, Nicholas, West Gippsland Hi Everyone, Old Gippstown holds the medals issued to the mother of Nicholas TACKABERRY, born 1884 at Warragul to Nicholas TACKABERRY and Sarah Jane WHITE. He was serving with the 8th Light Horse when he was killed in action during the battle for Lone Pine at Gallipoli, August 1915. At that time his mother was living at Yarragon (although sometimes also said to be at Trafalgar), and his father had died. Nicholas TACKABERRY was single at the time of enlistment, and described as an orchardist from Marong. He had at least six brothers and sisters all born Warragul / Buln Buln, but at least three failed to survive infancy. His mother died at Warragul in 1938. If there is anyone out there connected with the family, or anyone else who could help, Old Gippstown would very much like to obtain a photograph of Nicholas TACKABERRY, or any other details of the family. Regards Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 9:39 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 22/01/2008 8:12 PM

Name: BARTLETT Hector Age: 63yrs Place: Collingwood Year: 1885 Ref. 504 Cause: Suicide Hanged Occupation: Plasterer ----- Original Message ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: D. I. To: aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Marjorie DUNN That's an interesting link, thanks Pam, I'll follow it up. I meant if you could send me the record that you posted before on Hector Bartlett which gave the date of his suicide.

Thanks, Eric...makes life simpler as I'm never sure how to spell indices. (Sorry Linda...off topic) ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Tetlow To: aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Marjorie DUNN Indexes is correct. Indices is a mathematical term. Eric.