Dear Listers: I would be interested to find out the month and year the Old Bairnsdale Cemetery was washed away by a flood. Thanks in anticipation Brian Melbourne

Thanks to all those who responded to my request for info on the financial aspects associated with UK certificates. Much appreciated. John Hill

An interesting development: - the marriage certificate, recevied this morning, for the eldest daughter of John Hill (my gg grandfather), Angelina - marriage to Frances Watt - 8 Oct 1863 at Learmouth - has an interesting comment: `Angelina Hill being a minor & the Father being absent from the Colony of Victoria, the written concent of the Mother was obtained previously to celebrating the marriage` So, which state or country was the hot spot for gold mining in or about 1863? Any suggestions on which state I should focus my attention? John Hill

Dear John and Listers, Thanks John for that information. I rang telstra to try and get a number for the Museum and there isnt one listed. Can someone help me with some contact information for Port Albert Maritime Museum please? Regards, Julie Simpson >To the person who enquired about the WIDDON family from Yarram Yarram: > >The Port Albert Maritime Museum has a folio of WIDDON family papers among >its holdings. > >John O'Callaghan

Hi all. I have birth certificates for ancesters in the Yarragon, Trafalgar area. A number of then where born at Sunny Creek. Can anyone tell me where Sunny Creek is - or was? John Hill

The Gippsland Time Line is posted to the list in irregular posts - if anyone has any additions, corrections or suggestions, please feel free to engage in historical discussion! :) Some of you may even come up with important dates we have missed. Some state, national and world events are included for comparison. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This time-line is copyright, and was extracted from "Steps in Time: A Gippsland Chronology to 1899". It is posted for private study only. Earlier, consolidated posts can be found on the through the AVG Home Page at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au - ------------------------------------------ 1860 Jan: Baw Baw (Russell's Creek) goldfield opened by William Gladman. Jan: Gaffney's Creek goldfield discovered. Jun 19: Roads Board formed at Cranbourne. Jul: Hawthorn and Icy Creek goldfields discovered on Baw Baw. Nov: McMillan resigns from Legislative Assembly. unk: Dr Hedley elected to Victorian Parliament. unk: Mueller by boat to Twofold Bay and explores Cape Howe, Mallacoota, and Genoa River areas. Finds and names Gippsland Waratah on Nungatta Mountain. unk: Population of Omeo reaches 500. unk: Bennison runs stock on Bennison Plains. unk: J.H. Petit surveys a road from Bairnsdale to Stratford. unk: Alfred William Howitt leads a prospecting party to Crooked River, discovering alluvial gold there. A second party, led by C.W. Nicholson explores the Tambo and Snowy Valleys. Late: Gold discovered at Grant. unk: Reverend Bulmer in Gippsland to establish a reserve for Aborigines. unk: Bairnsdale town surveyed and laid out (north side of Main St). unk: Nicholson Act sets aside 1.6m ha Crown Land for selection in Victoria. This is the first selection act for Victoria and operates Nov 1860 to June 1862. 1861 Jan: G.T. Jones photographing diggers at Lucknow - possibly Gippsland's first residential photographer. Feb: Drought and fires Bushy Park and everywhere else. McMillan in financial difficulties and ultimately looses all stations except Cuigmungie. Mar 30: McMillan marries Christina Naughton. Apr 18: The barque Rembrandt sinks off the Ninety Mile Beach with the loss of ten lives. Jun 26: Howitt leaves Melbourne with a party to go in search of Burke and Wills. He locates the only survivor, and buries those who died. He then returns to Central Australia to bring their remains to Melbourne. Jun: Rev Bulmer selects site for Aboriginal Mission at Buchan and begins establishment. This was unsuccessful, and by the end of the year he had chosen an alternative site at Lake Tyers. Jul 11: The schooner Macclesfield sinks on the Clonmel Sands at Port Albert with the loss of five lives. unk: Victoria's population reaches 539,000 unk: American Civil war begins. unk: Nicholson party discovers gold at Pinch Creek near Bonang, and alluvial gold near Bendoc, and some in the lower Snowy. unk: Gold discovered at Wood's Point and alluvial gold at Barmouth Creek, Wombat Creek and in the Jordan. unk: Gold rush at Crooked River. unk: First coach from Sale to Bairnsdale. unk: Gippsland Times news commenced at Sale by George Gellately.

I have been given 4 extra death certificate copies other than one I needed. Margaret Waterston, Widow 9 October 1911 Ellen Rodgers 14th October 1911 John Bradshaw 20 October 1911 William Knot 2..October 1911 All in Caulfield/St. Kilda/South Melb area of Victoria. Am happy to copy the rest of these certificates if anyone interested. Denise in Brisbane, Queensland, Beautiful one day, Perfect the Next, - Australia Searching MARRIOTT England: CRAWFORD United States/Ireland/Scotland: HALL England: SANGOR England: SIMMONDS England: HAEFFNER Germany helendmc@powerup.com.au

Anyone looking for the Lang Lang Cemetery can find it by continuing out McDonalds Track Road towards Nyora. It is about 4 Kms out of town,approx., and is on the left. If the person needs more information then they should contact Joybells Nursery in the Main street. Joy the proprieter is open all days except Tuesday. Ann Burnell

To the person who enquired about the WIDDON family from Yarram Yarram: The Port Albert Maritime Museum has a folio of WIDDON family papers among its holdings. John O'Callaghan ********************************************************* Gwen O'Callaghan/The Irish Link PO Box 242, Yarram 3971, Victoria, Australia Email gwenoc@netspace.net.au *********************************************************

Bernie Green, A fine reference book to the Drouin district is the book - "Buln Buln", by Graeme Butler (Drouin, 1979) - 794 pages. Selectors moved into West Gippsland in the very early 1870s, the first selections being in the vicinity of Brandy Creek (Buln Buln), a staging post on the old Melbourne - Sale road, and spread rapidly. West Gippsland was first divided into two shires - Buln Buln Shire - comprising the Drouin, Warragul and Tanjil districts, and Narracan Shire - including the Yarragon, Moe, Morwell (west of the Morwell River) and Walhalla districts and much of South Gippsland. Extracts from "Buln Buln" - p.302: "DROUIN - an agricultural and railway township on the Main Gippsland Line opened in March 1879. . . . The name Drouin ... comes from the French inventor of a chlorination process used to separate gold from ore. Gold digging had already been established for years on the Tarago River directly north of Drouin Township." p.303: "Let us contemplate Drouin in 1879 when its voice first began to be heard, or read, every Friday in the Gippsland Independent. This weekly, edited forcibly by John Malachi Gannon, spoke its first words on 13th September, 1878 ..." I understand that for a few years the Gippsland Independent was the main source of news for settlers as far east as Moe and Narracan. John Adams in "So Tall the Trees" (Shire of Narracan, 1978), page 329 provides a list of newspapers, inxluding - "Gippsland Independent, Drouin 1879-82 ... Mirboo Herald, Mirboo 1887-94 ... Moe Register 1888-9 ... Morwell and Mirboo Gazette, Mirboo 1885-94 ... Narracan Shire Advcocate, Moe 1888-1955 ... Warragul Guardian 1879-82 ... Waterloo Express, Yarragon, 1882-93 ..." Walter Savige

The book Pioneer Crafts of Early Australia by Murray Walker 1978 shows an embroidered sampler worked by B Rivett during 1889 at Cliffy Island. The sampler was exhibited at the National Gallery of Victoria in 1978 and carries the date Sept 11th 1889. Cheers Shirley Westaway Foster, Victoria

Walter I wonder if there are any surviving copies of the Gippsland Independant. Those papers I mentioned are held at various places at this time. It would be great to be able to have a look at the Drouin paper. As a matter of interest how long has the township of Drouin been established???? Regards, Bernie Green.

Dale, I am in the Morwell Library checking my Email, so looked up their copy of the La Trobe Valley Express for Nov 8th 1983: Brien - On Nov.6 at LVH, Moe, Kenneth Lawrence of 16 John St., Moe. Loved husband of Beryl and loving father of Karen (Mrs D. Ridley) and Kel. Father-in-law of Daryl and Darling Pa of Robert. Aged 48 years. So dearly loved. === Claire Wood Traralgon, Vic. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Bernadene Green, I have always understood that the first newspaper in West Gippsland was "The Gippsland Independent", published at DROUIN. Walter Savige

descendt's are sort by long lost friend V J Todd alias noogar (address avail) of Felixstowe in Suffock UK of the following people could anyone help Albert Audury CLARKE b1893 married Ms Young to Aus 1920 Glady's May CLARKE b1897 Ray CLARKE D1964 married Constance degrah Denneh d1964 Albert Audbury CLARKE 2 married Lucinda Daniels D1987 child douglas b1922 gorden b1923 ronald b1928 brian richard b1923 maurice carmel mary Robert Bateman Melbourne Australia

Copies of the Moe Star are held at the State Library, unfortunately not all are available to be looked at as some are in very bad state. The Trafalgar and District Historical Society hold hard copies of the Trafalgar News, some editions of the Trafalgar Yarragon and Moe Swamp Advocate, Trafalgar and Yarragon Times, Gippsland Times, Trafalgar News, Narracan Shire Advocate, Trafalgar Yarragon & Yallourn News, Yarragon Trafalgar and Moe Settlement News. In 1996 these were available for research, I am presuming that is still the case. Some are very fragile, so much care is necessary, but they are a mine of information and date back to the late 1800's up to the late 1980's. The Gippsland Studies unit at Monash, Churchill has microfilms of some papers. The Warragul Historical Society holds copies of the Trafalgar & Yarragon Express, West Gippsland Express, Warragul Gazette and the Warragul Guardian. Thought this might help people find options with their research. Regards Bernie G.

Dear Gang, Just a gentle reminder - this is a GIPPSLAND list. Castlemaine is NOT in Gippsland. If you wish to discuss places/subjects/families that are not Gippsland, check out the other Rootsweb mailing lists at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

For the Moe area try the Latrobe Valley Express, 1980's most probably would still be held by the Express Offices at 21 George St. Morwell. Ph: 0351341811 Regards Bernie G.

There is a Thirza Widdon involved in the Wood Family Tree>I recently posted to the list about Woodburn which was originally owned by >James Simpson and Thirza (nee' Widdon) and have been corresponding with >Linda over that wonderful find..Thanks again Linda for your efforts...!! > >Now I am on the hunt for information on Thirza's parents Samuel Widdon and >Grace (nee' Lee) and extended family... >Samuel and Grace had a multitude of children: >Thirza (1857), Ann Maria (1859), George Henry (1861), John Edward >(1862),Samuel (1864), Alfred (1868), Sarah Grace Elizabeth (1873), William >Alfred (1876), Frederick Charles (1878), Arthur (1886) >All born in Yarram as far as I can tell. > >I have further information on marriages and descendants of these children >that I would be happy to share with anyone interested. I would be >appreciative of any information which could be brought to light on this >family and their origins and descendants, in particular the marriage of >Samuel and Grace. > >Thanks in advance, >Regards, >Julie Simpson > > >==== Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. >Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List. >There is a Thirza Widdon involved in the Wood Family Tree from the Yarram area. Sarah Sybella Wood born 25.6.1862 married John Widdon and their children were 1.Elsie Widdon 13.8.86-26.8.1946 married 1929 George Christopher - Nil Issue >2. Grace Widdon died 1924 marruied 1906 Samuel Edward Everett- three children second daughter Annie married Fred Porter and their family are still in the Yarram area John, William, Phyllis (Mrs Ray Barlow, and Robert. 3. Albert Widdon killed 1914-1918 war 4. Thirza Widdon married Albert SmithDied 1972 they had 5 children - I have corresponded with the youngest Iris Read who lived at the time in Ulverstone Tasmania. Hope this does not confuse the issue for you. Alec Wood wood@giant.net.au

Hi all, Pauline is still a great help. A relative of mine has used her several times recently. Regards,Bronwen Ann Burnell wrote: > Dear Listers, > > If you need any information about the Castlemaine area I suggest you contact > Pauline J Myers. She has a Family History Research Centre at her home and > she specialises in Central Victorian records. Her address 12 Adair Street > Maldon 3463 Tel. 054 751 214 > > I found her a fantastic help some years ago.