Hi Lauris Sorry, I can't help with any more info than that already posted. Perhaps you too could contact the Orbost Historical Society to see if they know who he was. Lake Tyers is not far from Orbost but Tyers is near Traralgon - a couple of hundred km's further west. Regards Lori

Hi Walter I will let you know as soon as I receive the copy of the Rabbit book. Would you like a photo-copy too? Actually, maybe better wait until we see just how this is written! Regards Lori

Immgration schemes in the 1860 and earlier in the 1840s were carried out in england and the british isles by immigration agents not likely Messrs Lorrimer, Marwo0d and Rome, were agents operating in england as agents for the vuictorian government . The agent advanced the fare or should I say the subsidy to the passenger making sure they got on board the ship and that they were the right type of migrant Yoyu could say any early form of outsourcing.

Are you looking for index for Old Coburg cematery Bell st Preston/coburg border and Fawkner Mem park now combined at fawkner office If you are in Melbourne, you could phone (see number below) for further assistance if you have only say two names, but please note that there is normally a charge for any more than that. If you knew how many requests we get from people pursuing genealogical detail (bearing in mind that the Registrar of Births Deaths and Marriages keeps infinitly more detail) you'd understand. Fawkner Memorial Park - Melbourne Australia Voice: +61 3 9359 3777 Fax: +61 3 9357 3006 E-mail: waynefz@fcmp.com.au website: http://www.fcmp.com.au Robert Bateman Melbourne Australia

List members may be interested in this month's Sale Historical Society's activity, and excursion to the Jean Galbraith 'Garden in a Valley' garden at 'Dunedin' at Tyres (outside Traralgon), on Sunday October 17th. Member Laurie Smythe will drive our bus, which will leave from the Sale Museum, Foster Street at 1.30pm. There will be a small charge to cover the cost of the bus, entry to the garden and Devonshire tea. As places on the bus are very limited, it is necessary to contact me (Ann Synan) to ensure a place. I Have included details, and some information about Jean from the Society's October newsletter - Ann Synan �CORREA� - JEAN GALBRAITH OF 'DUNEDIN' 'Dunedin' at Tyers was the home of Jean Galbraith, noted Gippsland botanist, writer and gardener, for almost 80 years. Her family selected land at Tyers in the 1870s, and Jean�s parents moved to 'Dunedin' in 1914. It was from her mother and father that Jean learned, at a very early age, to germinate seeds and to tend plants. This garden, which began as a family pleasure became her lifetime�s work and passion. We read of the development of the garden at Dunedin through Jean�s articles, published regularly in the Garden Lover for over 50 years, under her pen name �Correa�. Many of these articles formed the basis of her �Garden in a Valley�, first published in 1939, and more recently reproduced. Through these works, the reader can follow the development of this wonderful garden - the rose walk, the hedge, the orchard, the rock garden. It is possible to also see Jean�s love of plants growing under the example of her parents, and feel the excitement of Father bringing home a new type of daffodil to be planted, and its flower eagerly awaited the following spring, or bringing home a barrow load of tree ferns, in a time when it was still possible to do this, necessitating the building of the Bush House. Boxes of flowers were packed carefully, wrapped in damp newspaper, to be sent by train to the Austin Hospital to cheer long staying patients, and it was through this connection that the Galbraith family befriended the man they called �the artist�, Walter Thornby. He lived in �the sleep-out� at 'Dunedin' for some years, and despite his illness, contributed to the development of the garden. Jean made lifelong friends of botanist H B Williamson and his family, whom she met as an eager young girl at the Field Naturalists� Club of Victoria�s wildflower show. He helped her identify plants, and fostered her interest in botany, in a manner in which she herself mentored others, in particular, botanical artist Joan Law Smith. Jean�s association with the Field Naturalists lasted the whole of her lifetime. Jean worked closely with the National Herbarium at Melbourne�s Botanical Gardens. With her extensive knowledge of plants and birds, Jean passionately promoted an appreciation of native Australian plants and was an ardent and tireless supporter of their conservation. She wrote prolifically, for the 'Garden Lover', maintaining a regular column over many years, and in her later years, for 'The Age'. Her 'Wildflowers of Victoria' was published in 1950, and reprinted a number of times. 'Field Guide to the Wildflowers of South-East Asia' (1967) became an invaluable handbook for those interested in indigenous flora, and amongst her other works were 'A Gardener�s Year' (1987) and 'A Garden Lover�s Journal' (1989). Jean remained at Dunedin until entering a retirement village in 1993, and for a time after this, her beloved garden became overgrown and neglected, until purchased in recent years by Max and Ollie Archbold. Her house has been restored and the garden re-discovered, with its jonquils, daffodils, cyclamens and rare bulbs and shrubs. Her Via Rosarius along the long central path remains, with its fragrant old fashioned roses - 'Mme Chatenay', 'Sunny South', 'Ophelia', 'Daydream'. Remnants of the orchard can be seen, reminding the visitor of the variety of peaches, cherry plums - the first to flower in spring - 'Delicious', 'Reinnette', 'Northern Spies', 'Rhymer', 'McMahon�s White' being only some of the varieties of apples grown. The rear of the house is shaded by an enormous and spreading oak, under which family gatherings were held at Christmas times. Scrapbooks, original copies of the Garden Lover, family items, and Jean�s treasured microscope are beautifully displayed in the house, for visitors to enjoy. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Linda, Joan, Lori, Dianne and other rabbit fans, Thank you Linda for providing info about the route taken by the mountaineering rabbit hordes in their trek to the Maffra - Stratford district. And Lori, I am very interested in the book you mentioned. I stated previously that my uncles had told me that rabbits first arrived in the Thorpdale/Narracan district in 1914. However, I have now seen a report that they arrived in some parts of West Gippsland much earlier. John Adams ("So Tall the Trees", p. 136) states: "In 1896 they were seen around Drouin. In 1898 some were seen in the Haunted Hills, then in March 1901, a rabbit was seen near Hill End ... By 1910 the rabbits were rather common in the hill country from Shady Creek to Moondarra ... Then rabbits began to appear in the Allambee area, and were soon overrunning the Narracan Hills ... Trappers moved in and began to develop a new industry with crates of rabbits sent off from Thorpdale for processing ... " I can remember rabbits being "thick on the ground" in the Thorpdale district in the 1920s. Their numbers were controlled to some extent by the use of either traps or ferrets. As a schoolboy I used to make good pocket money by selling carcasses to the "rabbit man". Van loads were taken daily to Trafalgar from where they were sent on to Melbourne by train. I should add that although the Thorpdale district was free of rabbits until about 1913, early settlers had a serious problem with wallabies. Walter Savige

The Maffra Historical Society published quite an extensive article in its quarterly Bulletin by Allan Greaves about the bunny (or "underground mutton") and how it helped survival during the Depression. The Bulletin is distributed to a number of fellow Societies throughout Gippsland and may be available. The issue in question is Number 49 (June 1986). Those of you following the Weekly Times's series on "Our land: Our century" may have seen the front of Part 4 which illustrates very well the place of the rabbit. You may even have spotted an "interview" with Allan on page 101. Yours, Jeremy Look me up at www.maffra.net.au/jjbpage.htm

Hi All, I am looking for anyone who is researching or a descendant of the above couple. James and Emma were married in Ballarat in 1864 and moved to Bendigo, Shepperton and Bendigo, Emma died in Bendigo abt 1914 and James in 1922. James was a Vet. Thank you Regards Sharon =========================================== Sharon Ross sharon@river.net.au Rochester, VIC, 3561 AUSTRALIA Home Page: http://users.river.net.au/~mross/ Family names: Pursell, Lahl, Reason, Wilton, Dillon, Morley, Cohen, Williams, Ross, Glasson, Arnold ===========================================

Was this chappie a James Mitchell and did he live across the Tyers River in 1902 and have a large family. I dont know where the Tyers River is in relation to Orbost or Newmerella, so am a little ignorant of things. Lauris The Mitchell at Newmerella was J W Mitchell but he doesn't get a mention in any of my books - I presume Mitchell's Road at Newmerella was named after him. I cannot see any other Mitchells listed as early settlers.

Hi Linda In the 1930's odd, one of my oldies wrote a childrens story book 'How the Rabbit came to Australia' and I have finally located the only remaining copy, that I know of. I haven't seen it yet but the owner is going to photocopy it for me - all 50 pages. It will be interesting to see how the rabbit was presented to the children of the time - whether he portrayed it as a pest or a cute little bunny? Are you interested in this type of material? Regards Lori

Fellow Gippsland Listers, Although I have not been fortunate enough to have had a response to any enquiry regarding my (Matthews) family through this list, I still find it a most useful resource. A small suggestion I believe can further improve the system, particularly for "digest" subscribers, who don't want to read every word, and that is that a little more attention needs to given to ascribing a meaningful "subject heading" to postings. There is only space for about two words to be shown in the attachment "icon", but with a little thought, much valuable reading time can be saved, as it can also by avoiding sending "one liners" to another lister, regarding a specific, rather than a general interest subject. Hope you agree. Gary Matthews, Jeeralang, Vic (gmatthews@hazpower.com)

Dear Nadina, The inks used for dyes are usually very unsaturated in chemical terms.(Visible colour is associated with this unsaturation) Over time inks get decolourised via reactions across the double bonds. Nevertheless, although the colour is hardly visible anymore, there are usually lots of double bonds still left. so what you need in order to detect the remnants of now colourless ink is some way of detecting double bonds without destroying the photograph. An ultraviolet light should do it. You may be able to access one via a local school or university science department, a bank, a library or even restaurant (repel insects). Gail of New Zealand

Hi Joan, Do you remember my husband Paul and myself Lorene? We came to see the photographs in the local hall (can't remember the name of the hall ). The photos were of John Morrison and Angus McMillan. kind regards, Lorene Latham

At 12:30 AM 10/10/99 +1000, Walter wrote: >The Thorpdale - Narracan district was free of rabbits in the early days >because of their inability to negotiate the swamps and forests of West >Gippsland. My uncles have told me that the first rabbits arrived suddenly in >1914 (by which time their "distant" cousins had crossed the Nullabor :-)). I >had assumed that they arrived from the west by a fairly direct route (from >Geelong). However, after reading your message I have my doubts. Do you think >that they may have arrived from the east - via NE Victoria, the Great >Divide, Maffra, Traralgon and Morwell? It should have been easier for them >to cross a river than a swamp. Hi Walter and List, I think this would have been the case. Rabbits were definitely later in Gippsland, and people did think they would not cross the divide as they would not survive above a certain temperature. They ended up coming down the river valleys such as the Macalister, Avon and I think the Tambo. Around 1914 is when they were in plague proportions. People also believed they could not cross rivers, and the building of the bridge over the Barkly River above Licola was opposed for quite some time as people believed there were no rabbits on one side, and rabbits on the other, and they would use the bridge to cross and colonise. The spread was sometimes a little bit leapfrog, as there were cases where rabbits would be caught in one area and taken to another for release, The thought was that this would then be reported, and land values in that area would fall, and the rabbit carrier would be able to buy land cheaper there. I did hear one story of someone from Woodside (north of Yarram), that his father saw an animal, and went home and described it, and worked out that it must have been a rabbit, as it could not have been anything else. We have to realise that this spread happened in a time when the ONLY form of communcation (apart from word of mouth) was newspapers, and that many people did not get them, or could not afford them, or even could not read them. Must go - I've been rabbitting on Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Linda, I am interested in your statement that rabbits crossed the divide to enter Gippsland (the Maffra - Stratford district) in 1896. The Thorpdale - Narracan district was free of rabbits in the early days because of their inability to negotiate the swamps and forests of West Gippsland. My uncles have told me that the first rabbits arrived suddenly in 1914 (by which time their "distant" cousins had crossed the Nullabor :-)). I had assumed that they arrived from the west by a fairly direct route (from Geelong). However, after reading your message I have my doubts. Do you think that they may have arrived from the east - via NE Victoria, the Great Divide, Maffra, Traralgon and Morwell? It should have been easier for them to cross a river than a swamp. Walter Savige

Rabbits, Pioneer Women utilised the good old bunny in many ways. They were a hole hearty feed for their large families and they were able to make a few shillings from the skins. My husbands grandmother cooked many a rabbit stew on the wood stove she purchased after selling rabbit skins. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ Regards Dianne Carroll Join List :- Alpine Heritage at = http://www.onelist.com ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~

05.03.1902 Tambo & Orbost Times The effort to clear the district of rabbits by poisoning must, states the "Standard" be almost hopeless when 305 rabbits were counted on Friday evening while travelling along the road from Omeo to Worchester's - a distance of only four miles. This piece of country was thoroughly poisoned by the shire rabbiter only six weeks ago. 04.02.1903 Tambo & Orbost Times ... In addition to the destruction of so much land by the spread of blackberries and briars, the rubbish is splendid cover for rabbits which are known to be in the district, and in one or two localities rabbits have been seen in half-dozens at a time emerging from blackberry thickets....

12.08.1903 Bruthen & Tambo Times Rabbit trapping must be a profitable occupation in the Ensay district. We are informed that the Messrs Poynton of that district, put on a trapper at 10s per week and found and that in a few weeks he trapped over 3000 rabbits and cleared £30 by the sale of skins. The property owners are beginning to realise that trapping is more effective in lessening the pest than is the laying of poison, while the former is less costly. 25.01.1905 Bruthen & Tambo Times Rabbits are said to be increasing in the Gelantipy districts and the landholders are offering exceptional terms to trappers and others to destroy the vermin.

19.01.1889 Tambo & Orbost Times The enormous sums of money expended upon rabbit destruction in Australia have been well published in all parts of the world, as evidenced by the many offers made from time to time to the Victorian Government by patentees who have invented contrivances for which absolute perfection is always claimed. The latest offer of the kind came from an American citizen, who addressed his communication to the "Chief Officer of the Australian Government," and whom he salutes as "Your Majesty." The writer of the letter states that he has been informed that the Victorian Government is offering a reward of 100,000 dol. for the invention of a trap or contrivance to destroy rabbits, and adding that he has constructed a "trap which will catch rabbits, rats, mice or any other kind of small animals." The happy inventor of this trap offers to send one to the Victorian Government on condition that he receives 78,000 dol. for it if found to work satisfactorily. The Minister of Lands is not infatuated with the scheme.

Oooops, is my face red. In an earlier post I said Jarrahmond is on the western side of the Snowy River. WRONG! It is on the eastern side, and Bete Bolong is on the western side. Bete Bolong is the one I was thinking of for the pumpkins. Bete Bolong South is Pumpkin Point. Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/