Those listers with forebears who lived at or near Tinamba in bygone years may be interested to read some entries from the diary of my maternal grandfather George Glen Auchterlonie (a dour Scot). It was not a matter of all work and no play, as the following entries for mid-1873 show: "June 10 - Both teams ploughing for barley. Bill grubbing. Mrs Jackson brought over a note from P. Harbeck anent the butter. June 1 - Settled up with Peter Harbeck. Went at night to a meeting of Bachelors anent having a ball; was elected chairman. It was arranged that the ball be held on 10 July next. June 18 - A committee meeting was held tonight to consider whom to invite to the ball. Present M. Carr, Doherty, Forsyth, Manly and self. Received a note from M. Boland, desiring that the Miss Cobains be invited. June 20 - Another committee meeting tonight. Appointed a practising on next Wednesday at Ross'. June 23 - Wrote out all the invitations tonight. June 25 - Bessie [Auchterlonie's half-sister] & I went to Ross tonight for the practising. June 26 - D. Forsyth came over tonight and got the invitations for his cousins [Susan and Barbara Graham] and Miss Carr. June 28 - Ploughing for English barley. A meeting of the committee tonight. We arranged what we should purchase and also admitted Peter Laughlan as a member. July 1 - Bessie & I went in a dray to Mrs Allerdyces & the two Miss Blores went with us to have a practice for the ball. July 4 - Rode to Sale ... Got my trousers and vest from Morrison ... Jack ploughing new land for oats. July 5 - Went to Gleesons with the butter ... July 7 - Yoked up the team and drew off the last of the logs from the potato land. Went down to Watson's to see if his girl had got her invitation. Called in at Osborn's on the way home. July 8 - Forenoon rolling the logs together. Afternoon went over to Newry to the readings. R., T. & W. Blore went with J. and W. Hadly and myself. I read "Battle of Flodden" and an Irish piece. July 9 - Jack ploughing and Bill clearing. Self went up and saw Doherty about making tables. Told him to call on Forsyth and tell him to get Black George as waiter ,,, I made some trestles after dinner. July 10 - Went up and got Blore's dray and went down to Osborn's and brought up planks; also from Thomsons I brought forms and from Ross boards up to Mac's [McLachlan's] woolshed. Doherty, Manly & self sorted up the place, rigged the tables and seats and levelled the floor. July 11 - Yesterday evening dressed myself and took Bessie in the dray up to Macs. The people were nearly all there between 7 and 8 o'clock. We appointed W. Mooney M.C. until McKinnel would come and the dancing was begun with the first sets. We had supper about 11 p.m. and tea about 4 a.m, and separated about 6 a.m. There were about 60 persons, nearly half being females. We went through about 30 dances. All seemed to enjoy themselves well. I took myself home and changed my clothes and returned and took back the peoples forms, boards, etc. Jack & Bill did not come to their work today. The persons who contributed to the tables were Mrs Thomson, Mrs Ross, Mrs Boland and Mrs Auchterlonie. Besides which we procured goods as follows - 1 lb tea, 2 lbs coffee, 13 lbs sugar, 3 lbs con. lollies, 2 bottles kerosene, 3 gallons best brandy, 3 bottles sherry, 2 bottles ginger wine, 2 bottles raspberry vinegar. July 12: Sowed 5 acres with 10 bushels of English barley ..." I understand that Grandfather was a teetotaller and would have kept to the raspberry vinegar. Walter Savige

Australia's believed-to-be-extinct pademelons were discovered on an island off the New Zealand coast where Sir John Grey had established a private zoo last century. There were never on the NZ mainland. They were brought back to the zoological department at Monash University (late 1960s if my memory serves me correctly) where they happily settled in their native land. Shirley Westaway Foster

Hi Barry and Wilna I'm glad I was of some small help. As to where I found the info, I have lots of books about the area and any book regarding the early history of Orbost will give the info about the early Station holders. Also I know the area quite well and of course, many people who have lived and still live there. You may have your work cut out for you researching this family because they moved around so much but keep trying. You never know the odd places info will turn up. Perhaps you could try spelling variations of the surnames involved. I once found an ancestor, who name was Connolly, listed as Kernelly. The last place one would think of looking! ## He married Emma Susan Twitchett in Bairnsdale ( 1884 ), she later became > known as Owen. ### It sounds like he died. Perhaps if you can find her 2nd marriage certificate, it may give the year of his death. Have you located the descendants of any of his children / siblings? They may know something - even the tiniest scrap helps to build from the skeleton of name and date. Perhaps a letter to the Historical Societies of any of the towns of the births of his children may help. I once wrote to such a place and they answered that 'no they didn't know anything about the people I was looking for but a few years earlier, John Smith from Melbourne had written also looking for some info.' It took a while as they couldn't give me an address, but after an advert in the papaer, I eventually found John Smith and we were able to share information about our family. I have numerous books of areas surrounding Orbost so I will look to see if he gets a mention and get back to you. Again, being a labourer, he may not. As so often happens, it's only the land owner who rates a mention in many books. Hang in there - when I began I knew nothing at all about my family - even about my grandparents. Now after 12 years I have traced one of my direct lines back to 1566 and another section back to 1500! Regards Lori

Just to remind those interested, the 125 Swifts Creek S.S. Reunion is on next weekend. This reunion also incorporates all the minor surrounding schools. Regards Dianne Carroll Historian - Genealogist - Author http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/omeo/ Join List :- Alpine Heritage at = http://www.onelist.com

Subject: Smith Reunion October 31st Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:31 PM Dear List, There is a reunion for the descendants of William Smith and Charlotte Fletcher from Sarsfield via Bairnsdale Victoria to be held at the Sarsfield Sports Ground hall from 10-30am onwards on Sunday 31st October.William was born in Midsomer Norton Somerset England in 1811,Charlotte was born in Launceston Tasmania in 1836.They married in Castlemaine in 1856 and eventually settled in Sarsfield, raising 8 children,Henry, John, Alfred, William, Ann(Nicholls), Eliza Louisa(Ward),Rachael (McLaughlan), Richard (and Sidney who died at 6 months).Anyone connected to this family is most welcome to attend and can contact me for information. Regards, Elaine Skehan, Sale,Victoria. Australia.

Hi Lori and Listers Thanks for the info about B. Station and Jarrahmond. It makes very interesting reading. Would you mind telling me where you got all that detail from? Have a fair bit of information about our Henry John Mitchell, but am just having trouble going further back to his parents and beyond or finding his death. He married Emma Susan Twitchett in Bairnsdale ( 1884 ), she later became known as Owen. His parents are listed as Joseph Mitchell and Ellen Mollorin and his birth place as Parramatta. Age at this point was 35 and he was a farmer at Snowy River. He and Emma had the following children: Alice McDougall 1882 Bruthen Ada Rebecca 1884 Bairnsdale Henry John 1885 Orbost Esther Helen 1887 Swan Reach Charles George 1888 Lake Tyers Annie 1890 Lake Tyers Charlotte May 1892 Lake Tyers Eliz. Vict. 1894 Lakes Entrance Jos. Wm. 1896 Bruthen Josine 1898 Bruthen As you can see they have moved around Gippsland a bit. In 1885 he was listed as a labourer at B. Station (as you know). In 1889 he was listed as a selector at Lake Tyers. In 1905 he was listed as a selector at Bruthen ( Deptford Rd ). Then he seemed to disappear, but we will keep searching as we all do. Regards for now, Barry

Hi Linda The Bogong Homestead I know of is in Riverview Road, Heyfield. It was owned by Tom Jennings in the 1950's at least. My grandparents lived there and my parents when they were newly married. Mum says the river or small lake was referred to as the lagoon. Mum suggested contacting Alan Jennings who is a nephew of Tom re any questions. He lives in Heyfield area. Lesley Brown -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 16 October 1999 20:59 Subject: [AVG] "Bogong" Homestead >Hi List, > >Can anyone help with the location of "Bogong Homestead" in Gippsland about >1905. It is on a river or small lake, and photographs of the exterior and >interior appear in the Mitchell Library (NSW) PICMAN database, along with a >beautiful, similar set of exteriors and interiors of Alton Park, Newry. > >PICMAN is at http://www.slnsw.gov.au/picman/picman.htm >Linda Barraclough >Briagolong >List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >email: kapana@netspace.net.au >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >Check out the Gippsland Mailing List Home Page at: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ >

I live at Sale near Maffra and know the name Coridas, I have made enquiries via other people who feel that the Maffra Coridas families would not be interested, but have found myself that people can be wrong in their assumptions so I will give you the names and addresses from the local phone book. Wishing you good luck Coridas B, Mewburn Park Rd, Maffra 3860 Coridas David & Kaylyn, Powerscourt St, Maffra Coridas G & N, 42 Gibney Street, Maffra Coridas J, 12 Davis Street, Maffra Coridas K, Mewburn Park Rd, Maffra Coridas K J, 50 Palmers Rd, Lakes Entrance 3909 Coridas L, Mewburn Park Rd, Maffra Coridas R & B 114 Boisdale St, Maffra Coridas T 1b, Boisdale St, Maffra Regards Joan Traill >Dear all > >Thanks to some very kind people on this and other lists (especially that >for Tasmania) plus the TASP site and the LDS CD Rom of Australian Vital >Records, I have virtually sorted out the CORIDASS family who emigrated >from Nassau to Tasmania. One branch, still using the surname as CORIDAS, >has survived in the Maffra/Victoria area as CORIDAS. If anyone knows of >any such individual who is interested in their roots, please ask them to >contact me. Thanks again to all who helped me. > >Gail of New Zealand > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >West Gippsland Genealogical Society can now be found at: >http://home.vicnet.net.au/~wggs/ > >

This is muchbigger question than it looks, like all of these questions the devil is in the detail. I can't point you in the direction of the specific migration agents that you asked about for one very good reason there are just to many references to go through. If any one wants a list of the references I suggest they consult Monie Joanna, VICTORIA HISTORY AND POLITICS, EUROPEAN SETTLEMENT IN VICTORIA TO 1939 A SURVEY OF THE LITERATURE Vol 2 pub Borchardt Library 1982 pp. 413 - 433. These books are a record of the publications about Victoria from prior to settlement in 1834 to 1939. The pages I have listed contain 241 references that relate to immigration into the State of Victoria, the main one that is quoted is F.K. Crowley, BRITISH MIGRATION TO AUSTRALIA 1860 -1914 Oxford University 1951. A copy of tis thesis is on microfilm in the Menzies Library at the Australian National University. I realise this may all seem a little academic for the genalogists news groups but these two volumes of Bibliography have the best lists of sources of information about Victoria prior to 1939 and well worth a look especially if you are looking for a hospital or some other state institution. Before anyone asks the Borchardt Library is the library of Latrobe University melbourne. I brought my copy from the Victorian Government Bookshop that is now situated in Collins street Melbourne. happy hunting Geoff Coxon

Hi List, Can anyone help with the location of "Bogong Homestead" in Gippsland about 1905. It is on a river or small lake, and photographs of the exterior and interior appear in the Mitchell Library (NSW) PICMAN database, along with a beautiful, similar set of exteriors and interiors of Alton Park, Newry. PICMAN is at http://www.slnsw.gov.au/picman/picman.htm Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

hi list, According to the Morwell Historical Society webpage http://members.xoom.com/morwell/history.htm 1897 - First recorded sighting of a rabbit in the district. - Claire ===== Claire Wood Traralgon, Vic. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hi Walter and List, >It is stated in one paragraph: >"The rabbit did not spread naturally across Australia. Its social structure >is such that only at the point of a population collapse at the brink of >starvation will the young bucks and subordinate does leave to establish >themselves elsewhere. >I wonder if we are giving the ancestors of the Gippsland rabbits undue >credit for their enterprise in overcoming such daunting obstacles as the >Great Dividing Range, the Gippsland rivers and/or the Moe and Kooweerup >Swamps. The rabbits may have been given a helping hand by (kindly?) >trappers and sportsmen. I don't think this was such a case for Gippsland, as the spread of them slowly across Gippsland was chronicled. But it explains why the spread WAS so slow, which I couldn't understand. By the time they reached Gippsland, one of the later areas to be colonised, people knew they were a problem, not a welcome addition, so I think the sportsman phase would have been earlier. But then, there were the people in the Depression of the thirties who were very thankful for the rabbit, as that was all that kept them alive. Both trapping as a form of income (at certain parts of the year skins were worth more than carcasses) and for something to eat. Still rabbiting on Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Lona, I would also like to know whether the paddymelons (pademelons) of South Gippsland are extinct. I understand that the paddymelons of the NSW south coast (Parma Wallabies) were believed to have become extinct, but some were discovered on an island off the coast and re-introduced on the mainland. Before the arrival of rabbits, paddymelons plagued the early settlers of the South Gippsland hills. Thomas White (Narracan Shire Advocate, 1 Sep 1950) recalled: "Wallabies and paddy melons were very plentiful and sadly ravaged the crops. The only way to keep them out was by making what is known as a stump fence. The timber was cut into lengths of five or six feet and stood upright in trenches of about 18 inches in depth. Father thought of a great idea for catching wallabies. He left a hole in the fence and dug a hole inside about six feet deep and half full of water, with a trapdoor on top. When the wallabies came through they would be tripped into the hole and drowned. The first catch was our house cat, so, as money was very scarce we skinned it and sent the skin to Melbourne for which we received a shilling ..." Walter Savige

Hi Lona Yes I Believe there are some still in Tasmania in reasonable quantities. Regards Graeme R Roberts graemer@melbpc.org.au Researching Roberts,Thomas ,Johnson. Millard,Gordon,Herbert,Brucciani ----- Original Message ----- From: Lona <lona@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 14 October, 1999 9:46 AM Subject: [AVG] Rabbits in Sth Gippsland > Just before W.W.1 my father was at Toora to build the head-teacher's > residence. On his day off he went rabbitshooting, but saw none. Local > people said there were none. Some years later when there he was told > they came from the Traralgon direction. > > About 20 years ago an old man told me that there were once no sand > flies in that area. He said they only came after the paddy melons > disappeared. His theory was that the paddy melons burrowed under the > tussocks where the sand flies had their nests. So I suppose a remedy for > sandflies is to introduce the paddy melon. Are there any left? > Lona > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Remember - the more details you give for your families, such as first names, dates and places, the more likely it is that you will catch someone's eye and receive a response. > >

Fellow rabbit "fans", There is a website http://rubens.anu.edu.au/student.projects/rabbits/histroy.html entitled: "History of the European Wild Rabbit in Australia"., in which they refer to a book: "They all Ran Wild" by E.C. Rolls (Angus & Robertson, Sydney). It is stated in one paragraph: "The rabbit did not spread naturally across Australia. Its social structure is such that only at the point of a population collapse at the brink of starvation will the young bucks and subordinate does leave to establish themselves elsewhere. Floods, fire and other such extreme events such as hunting pressure will also cause an exodus of rabbits. Spreading across Australia may have taken a lot longer if it weren't for the sportsmans [sic] and trappers who had an incentive to assist the spread of the rabbit to ensure their future prosperity." I wonder if we are giving the ancestors of the Gippsland rabbits undue credit for their enterprise in overcoming such daunting obstacles as the Great Dividing Range, the Gippsland rivers and/or the Moe and Kooweerup Swamps. The rabbits may have been given a helping hand by (kindly?) trappers and sportsmen. Walter Savige

Just before W.W.1 my father was at Toora to build the head-teacher's residence. On his day off he went rabbitshooting, but saw none. Local people said there were none. Some years later when there he was told they came from the Traralgon direction. About 20 years ago an old man told me that there were once no sand flies in that area. He said they only came after the paddy melons disappeared. His theory was that the paddy melons burrowed under the tussocks where the sand flies had their nests. So I suppose a remedy for sandflies is to introduce the paddy melon. Are there any left? Lona

Good question and one that can't be answered at 7 in the morning but as the terminator said i'll be back >Geoff Coxon & other Gippsland Listers, > >Are there any records surviving of the dealings of these agents? >(either in Australia or UK) > >Gary Matthews, Jeeralang, Vic >(gmatthews@hazpower.com) >

hey gwen, fancy meeting u here. have been thru israel and jordan and italy , arrived belfast today. catchya later maree phelan --- Gwen O'Callaghan <gwenoc@netspace.net.au> wrote: > Hi, Linda and helpers > > > #1 [AVG] Lookups for McGrath etc... ["Lee and > Leesa MacDonald" > <l.macdo] > > #2 [AVG] Brodribb [Ann > Burnell > <burnell@peninsula.sta] > > Many thanks for abbreviating AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D to > AVG, so subscribers in > Digest Mode can read the heding for each message. > > Gwen > > > ********************************************************* > Gwen O'Callaghan/The Irish Link Research Services > PO Box 242, Yarram 3971, Victoria, Australia > Email gwenoc@netspace.net.au > > ********************************************************* > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surname interests on the > Gippsland Mailing List Home Page: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/surnames.html#top > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I am seeking some information about John Wilson known as Jno. who was supposed to have gone to Bushy Park in 1839. I know very little about him. Also I would like to know something about my great great grandfather Paddy Wilson who grew up in Omeo, he was born in 1840 & was a bullock driver. I am a descendant of these Wilsons & was raised at Swifts Creek. My father was Reg Wilson, he had a garage there & my mother ran the roadhouse. Any information will be very useful. Thanks Tom Wilson

Geoff Coxon & other Gippsland Listers, Are there any records surviving of the dealings of these agents? (either in Australia or UK) Gary Matthews, Jeeralang, Vic (gmatthews@hazpower.com)