> > Hi I unfortunately have not got to the Sale cemetry yet, as things have been a little hectic here with the kids, but I did not find a headstone memorial listing for him in a book on Sale Cemetry Memorials from the library, I did find and I am not sure if it is any interest to you or not a advertisement for a Delia Ralston, Reeve Street, Sale - Brewer- this was in a reprint of the original Middleton & Manings Gippsland Directory 1884-5. She has a full page simple advert stating the above. Also a Alexander Ralston, engine driver, Broadlands. This was under the Bairnsdale section. Delia's add is actually listed in the index under J. Ralston. Regards Michele Shane and Michele Deering EMAIL sdeering@vic.australis.com.au ICQ.# 46641156

Hi - I'm interested in your Johnson research. I was a Johnson. My fa came from Ipswich in London. Have recently procured his b. certificate. His mo Wilhelmena, fa Henry. Henry was a scientific Instrument Maker. My fa born 1901. Came to Oz in the 30s I believe, and served in WW2 with the RAAF. Any connection? PS - I won't tell you what I thought Paddymelons were! Cheers, Nandina nandina@alphalink.com.au ---------- > We used to find them everywhere along the roadsides when we lived in Cobar > in central NSW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Graeme R Roberts <graemer@melbpc.org.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 23 October, 1999 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > > > > Hi Lauris > > You are right on both counts as we in Vic calla shovel a shovel but the > > other states call things differently i.e. Pork German in SA is Fritz and > so > > on however I think the South Australians and the Queenslanders call a > small > > melon not unlike a cantaloupe a Paddy Melon.The ones I am thinking about > > grow along the roadside in the dry areas between Vic and SA borders they > > could have a smooth skin but the size of a cantaloupe.Come on the > scraggers. > > Regards > > Graeme R Roberts > > graemer@melbpc.org.au > > Researching Roberts,Thomas ,Johnson. Millard,Gordon,Herbert,Brucciani > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Lauris Crampton <crampton@senet.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, 22 October, 1999 3:51 AM > > Subject: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > > > > > > > Please, cld SKS tell me what a pademelon is? I thought they were some > > kind > > > of melon that grows by the side of the road and is yellow in colour, but > > > now assume that they are some sort of animal - like a kangaroo perhaps. > I > > > am a city person from Footscray. > > > > > > I wish people wld deal properly with their cats, unsterilized cats are a > > > curse in the suburbs as well. > > > > > > Lauris > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. > > > Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. > It helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List. > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. It > helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List. >

Can anyone tell me who this Captain Wilson was who was at Letts Beach now Golden Beach on 90mile beach. When did he come to Australia? It may shed a bit of light on my descendants. Thanks Tom Wilson

Hi Laruis. The Johnson's I have are John Johnson & Catherine Rohan a son Alfred b abt 1829 where?they say Ireland I don't think so the rest of his brothers& sisters I have not got. Alfred m Margaret Mc Mahon 1857 Castlemaine Vic d 1908 Footscray Vic. Issue.Alfred John, James Thomas,William, Henry, Julia Ann, Samuel Arthur, Margaret Etta,Walter. Henry b 1866 d 1905 m Bridget Lynch 1880 ,Issue Mabel, Mary, Samuel Arthur, William Henry b1903 Ballarat. Regards Graeme R Roberts graemer@melbpc.org.au Researching Roberts,Thomas ,Johnson. Millard,Gordon,Herbert,Brucciani ----- Original Message ----- From: Nandina Morris <nandina@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 28 October, 1999 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > Hi - I'm interested in your Johnson research. I was a Johnson. My fa came from Ipswich in London. Have recently procured his b. certificate. > His mo Wilhelmena, fa Henry. > Henry was a scientific Instrument Maker. > My fa born 1901. Came to Oz in the 30s I believe, and served in WW2 with the RAAF. > Any connection? > > PS - I won't tell you what I thought Paddymelons were! > Cheers, > > Nandina > nandina@alphalink.com.au > > ---------- > > We used to find them everywhere along the roadsides when we lived in Cobar > > in central NSW > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Graeme R Roberts <graemer@melbpc.org.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: 23 October, 1999 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > > > > > > > Hi Lauris > > > You are right on both counts as we in Vic calla shovel a shovel but the > > > other states call things differently i.e. Pork German in SA is Fritz and > > so > > > on however I think the South Australians and the Queenslanders call a > > small > > > melon not unlike a cantaloupe a Paddy Melon.The ones I am thinking about > > > grow along the roadside in the dry areas between Vic and SA borders they > > > could have a smooth skin but the size of a cantaloupe.Come on the > > scraggers. > > > Regards > > > Graeme R Roberts > > > graemer@melbpc.org.au > > > Researching Roberts,Thomas ,Johnson. Millard,Gordon,Herbert,Brucciani > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lauris Crampton <crampton@senet.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, 22 October, 1999 3:51 AM > > > Subject: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > > > > > > > > > > Please, cld SKS tell me what a pademelon is? I thought they were some > > > kind > > > > of melon that grows by the side of the road and is yellow in colour, but > > > > now assume that they are some sort of animal - like a kangaroo perhaps. > > I > > > > am a city person from Footscray. > > > > > > > > I wish people wld deal properly with their cats, unsterilized cats are a > > > > curse in the suburbs as well. > > > > > > > > > Lauris > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > > > Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. > > > > Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. > > It helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List. > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. It > > helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. > Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List. > >

Hi List, Just to let you know that Traralgon, Tinamba and Bullumwaal (2) have been added to the war memorials and honour boards page on the AVG home page. The Bullumwaal two are most interesting, as names are spelled differently on different boards, and there are even variations between whether several people were killed in action or not. For instance, on the district one, Frederick Andrew is not shown as "killed", while on the school board F. Andrews is shown as "supreme sacrifice". Could this mean he returned and died soon after of the affects??? However a family of five is Francis on one board, and Frances on the other. THREE of them are shown as "killed" on one, with no notation for any of them as "Supreme Sacrifice" on the other. The transcripts can be found at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/Resources/war_memorials.html#top Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

----- Captain Wilson reported seeing traces of Fox close to his house at Letts Beach (now Golden Beach on 90 mile beach), and a camper at Prospect (on the Ninety Mile Beach) in 1894 whilst out shooting wallabies near Lake Reeve reported surprising an animal described as a fox. In 1901 they were on the Romawi property near Lake Victoria (Wattle Point area) where A.L.Evans reported losing 30 lambs. Also at Maffra and Sale. On Rigby Island Henry McMahon remembered that there were few foxes when his family lived there between 1899 and 1909. Henry believed that the farm dogs chased them away but later he thought that the fox was responsible for wiping out the Bandicoot population of Rigby Island. The fox arrived on Sperm Whale Head / PointWilson area about 1912. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough [mailto:kapana@netspace.net.au] Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:33 PM To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVG] pademelons It is thought their >decline/disappearance is related to the arrival of the fox. Foxes do not >occur in Tasmania where pademelons are still common. >[Linda, perhaps we need to look at the arrival dates of the fox?] Now, of that I have no idea. Can anyone help???? Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ ______________________________

Would anyone have a photo of the Bruthen Cordial Factory or the Bruthen picture theatre. It was owned and operated by George Kerr in around 1925. His daughter, now 75 is seeking copies of these photo's if they exist! Any information or assistance on these two venues would be greatly appreciated. She is also wanting one of the bottles from the Cordial Factory. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ Regards Dianne Carroll http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/omeo/ Join List :- Alpine Heritage at = http://www.onelist.com ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~

>Gail, I noticed in the page that Linda mentioned, of the adding of the honour rolls the name Coridas.R appears in the Maffra (St John's Anglican Church) Honour Roll, he was also killed in action. (World War I) Regards, Julie Simpson >Dear all >Does anyone have cemetery records for Sale? If so could you please send me >information on any MIs for CORIDAS or CORIDASS please? I have found several >references to burials in Sale around 1880 -1905 for this family. >Thanks >Gail of New Zealand

Hi List, This is forwarded on behalf of From: Mary Ramage <mramage@mortimer.com> who was not on the list when forwarded. She is seeking info on Edward Morehouse Swan, b. 1898, Stratford, Victoria Parents: Edward Samuel Swan, b. 1868(?), Kent, England, Frances Elizabeth Peck b1869 at Lucknow. I suspect there may be a connection to Fanny Swan, that indomitable lady who had the first Hotel at Stratford, and I THINK someone on the list has already enquired about this family. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

It is thought their >decline/disappearance is related to the arrival of the fox. Foxes do not >occur in Tasmania where pademelons are still common. >[Linda, perhaps we need to look at the arrival dates of the fox?] Now, of that I have no idea. Can anyone help???? Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Hi List and Gail, The Sale cemtery records, as distinct from Memorial inscriptions, have not been released. All enquiries have to go to the cemetery trust. Memorials exist there for: In fond memory of my dear husband George CORIDAS born Greenponds, Tasmania 1872 died Mewburn Park Maffra 1936. A devoted husband and father. Arthur J. CORIDAS. In loving memory of my dear wife Betty died 8 May 1947. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

These delightful animals can be observed in the wild in the Asbestos Range National Park in northern Tasmania. They are very quiet, but provided you are too they are capable of totally ignoring human presence. They are wallaby shaped and coloured, about the size of a medium dog. Yours, Jeremy Look me up at www.maffra.net.au/jjbpage.htm

Attention all garden lovers and Gippsland historians! The Centre for Gippsland Stduies is hosting a conference on Garden History in Gippsland, this Saturday, 30th October, at Monash University Gippsland Campus, Churchill. Speakers will look at landscaping and design, focus on historic parks and gardens in the region, and talk about some Gippsland gardeners, as well as discussing significant trees in Gippsland and how they can be preserved. Registration is at 9.30, and the cost is $15. Follow the 'Enter Here' signs to find building 4N. Morning and afternoon tea are provided, but please bring your own lunch. Hope to see you there, with or without gardening gloves. Meredith Fletcher

Dear all Does anyone have cemetery records for Sale? If so could you please send me information on any MIs for CORIDAS or CORIDASS please? I have found several references to burials in Sale around 1880 -1905 for this family. Thanks Gail of New Zealand

There are three species of pademelon in Australia: Thylogale billardierii (Tasmanian pademelon) Thylogale thetis and Thylogale stigmatica (latter two found in coastal NSW and coastal qld) The name Pademelon comes from the Dharuk language of the Sydney region, their word badimaliyan was anglicised/corrupted to paddymelon and pademelon. The Gippsland species was Thylogale billardierii which inhabited coastal forest and scrub in Southern Vic. Frank Bury of Metung claimed that in the early 1900s there were thousands in dense Melaleuca scrub on the Boole Poole and near Lakes Entrance. Only one Gippsland specimen (from Corner Inlet 1851) was lodged in the Museum of Vic. They (ie the Tasmanian species) are no longer present on the mainland. It was last recoded in east Gippsland in the 1930s. It is thought their decline/disappearance is related to the arrival of the fox. Foxes do not occur in Tasmania where pademelons are still common. [Linda, perhaps we need to look at the arrival dates of the fox?] The question of association with sandfly numbers is interesting. Certainly sandfly habitat is melaleuca scrub, but sandflies seem to be a south gippsland problem. They are not to my knowledge, and I am prepared to hear otherwise, a problem in melaleuca around the lakes/Boole Poole where pademelons were obviously common. According to the Australian National Dictionary the paddymelon that grows in inland Australia is an introduced African species (Cucumis myriocarpus) which bears a small bristly melon like fruit.

Thanks to all who replied re the pademelons. At least I know now that I am not mad! Being a Victorian who now lives in SA, with rellies in Qld and NSW, and ancestors from Galway to Pilitz, it is no wonder I was confused. And yes, come on the scraggers and come on the crows as well and down with the power and the kangaroos and all those other unmentionables too!

Pademelons are small members of the kangaroo family – round about knee high to humans.

We used to find them everywhere along the roadsides when we lived in Cobar in central NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme R Roberts <graemer@melbpc.org.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23 October, 1999 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > Hi Lauris > You are right on both counts as we in Vic calla shovel a shovel but the > other states call things differently i.e. Pork German in SA is Fritz and so > on however I think the South Australians and the Queenslanders call a small > melon not unlike a cantaloupe a Paddy Melon.The ones I am thinking about > grow along the roadside in the dry areas between Vic and SA borders they > could have a smooth skin but the size of a cantaloupe.Come on the scraggers. > Regards > Graeme R Roberts > graemer@melbpc.org.au > Researching Roberts,Thomas ,Johnson. Millard,Gordon,Herbert,Brucciani > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lauris Crampton <crampton@senet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, 22 October, 1999 3:51 AM > Subject: [AVG] Re: Pademelons/unwanted kittens > > > > Please, cld SKS tell me what a pademelon is? I thought they were some > kind > > of melon that grows by the side of the road and is yellow in colour, but > > now assume that they are some sort of animal - like a kangaroo perhaps. I > > am a city person from Footscray. > > > > I wish people wld deal properly with their cats, unsterilized cats are a > > curse in the suburbs as well. > > > > Lauris > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. > > Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List. > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. It helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List. >

The little blighters in the Lamington National Park way back behind the Gold Coast are also called pademelons. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Savige <savigew@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23 October, 1999 8:31 AM Subject: [AVG] Pademelons > Lauris Crampton, > > A pademelon or paddymelon is a type of small wallaby indigenous to the > eastern mainland of Australia, the Bass Strait Islands and Tasmania. There > are several varieties. > > Walter Savige > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surname interests on the Gippsland Mailing List Home Page: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/surnames.html#top >

Hi List, This is to let you know Linda's Not -so-Little-Gremlin sent this letter off before he should have. :( It should have read: Just to let everyone know that due to the hard work of Glenys Wain (Sale Family History Group) and the Deputy, the Honour Rolls listed below have now been added to the Gippsland List Home Page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/Resources/war_memorials.html#top The new listings are: Dutson Fernbank Maffra (St John's Anglican Church) Sale Temperance Hall Sale Baptist Church Sale Agricultural High School Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/