Sunny Creek is now only an area, and is situated East of Yarragon and South of the Highway, The old school house is now situated at Gippstown Folk Museum at Moe I believe. There used to be a creamery there as well and the Sunny Creek area extended down to the Moe Swamp. Regards,Bernie G

hi Viv there are quite afew "Wrench "family members in Wonthaggi that I know of Old Albert Wrench only died a few years ago 1997/1998? he had a shoe shop in Wonthaggi for many years and I do know of his wife She has started doing the family history If this is what you are looking for please let me know regards Noelene Lyons Wonthaggi Genealogy Inc. noelene@compcom.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Vivienne Caldwell <viv@zip.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 27, 1999 5:18 PM Subject: [AVG] WRENCH of Korumburra >Hi list > >Does anyone have any connection with the Wrench family who settled in >Korumburra in the 1880s, previously living at Sofala in New South Wales? > >Viv >-- >Vivienne Caldwell >Wollongong NSW >http://www.zip.com.au/~viv > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >This list is set so that, by default, when you use the "Reply to Sender" option, replies go to the WHOLE list (about three hundred people). Make sure this is what you mean to do before sending. >

Hi Peter I like your idea, from my point of view I have been researching my ancestors ( Merritts & Johnstons) living in the Kongwak, Welshpool, Toora area, and have a mind to visit the district (I live in N.W. Victoria). This could tie in very well having the multi purpose to clean up a historic site in the area, meeting like minded people as well as checking out the district my forebears lived in 100 years ago. Regards Don Merritt -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman <surreal@netspace.net.au> To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 23 November 1999 9:20 Subject: [AVG] Clean Up Australia Day proposal > >Hello fellow AVGers, > >I was thinking that it would be nice if subscribers to the AVG used the >opportunity of the next Clean Up Australia day (which is 5th March 2000) to >clean up some of our historical sites in Gippsland. > >It would provide the opportunity for us to put something back into the >community, to beautify and preserve areas of historical significance, and a >chance to meet other subscribers. > >If possible I would like to organise at least one, and possibly a number >of, sites in Gippsland for March of next year, and to either redo them in >the following years (if necessary) or proceed to new sites. > >It is intended that this will be done under the auspices of the Clean Up >Australia committee which provides some support and insurance. > >I am writing this letter to gauge the interest and support that other >subscribers have in this type of project. So I would like to hear from you >(preferably on the list) whether you think the idea is worth pursuing and >whether you think you would be available. > >My initial proposal for a site is 'The Springs'. This was a stopover place >on McEvoys track that went from Seaton (Bald Hills) to the gold towns of >Jordan, Jericho, Matlock and Woods Point. It was the only permanent water >on the track as the track followed the ridges. The place is a lovely >grassed area of some 2 hectares complete with an old lichen covered orchard >that consists of fruit trees that would have been planted last century. >Last time I was there (hello Shirley and Barry) it was a bit of a mess with >garbage such as bottles and tins around it, loose pieces of corrugated iron >and discarded furniture, and some half buried stuff such as steel cables. >If possible I would like all the rubbish to be collected and placed in one >pile so that somebody like the DNRE could collect it later. The Springs is >about a half hour drive north of Seaton/Heyfield on a good gravel road >(which passes the famous Murderers Hill always mentioned by Edwin Maher in >his ABC TV weather reports). It is also a half hour drive NE of Walhalla on >a narrower winding mountain gravel road, which is still suitable for a >normal car (with care). > >If you have any comments on the idea in principle and would like to >tentatively volunteer, I would like to hear from you on the list. At a >later date I will call for people to nominate their proposed sites and >depending on responses nominate organisers and call for volunteers. > >This proposal has the support of the Linda the list administrator, and if >successful a page will be set up on the AVG website to help co-ordinate it. > >Regards > >Peter Lakeman > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures on Mailing Lists short. >Please do not exceed five or six lines on this List.

Could someone put me in touch with the community group watermark ( a group concerned with the Gippsland lakes)

Peter Lakeman wrote, > I was thinking that it would be nice if subscribers to the AVG used the > opportunity of the next Clean Up Australia day (which is 5th March 2000) to > clean up some of our historical sites in Gippsland. > What a great idea Peter. I can't guarantee getting there (I am a non driver) but will start working on my husband! Pam Manning ----------

Hello fellow AVGers, I was thinking that it would be nice if subscribers to the AVG used the opportunity of the next Clean Up Australia day (which is 5th March 2000) to clean up some of our historical sites in Gippsland. It would provide the opportunity for us to put something back into the community, to beautify and preserve areas of historical significance, and a chance to meet other subscribers. If possible I would like to organise at least one, and possibly a number of, sites in Gippsland for March of next year, and to either redo them in the following years (if necessary) or proceed to new sites. It is intended that this will be done under the auspices of the Clean Up Australia committee which provides some support and insurance. I am writing this letter to gauge the interest and support that other subscribers have in this type of project. So I would like to hear from you (preferably on the list) whether you think the idea is worth pursuing and whether you think you would be available. My initial proposal for a site is 'The Springs'. This was a stopover place on McEvoys track that went from Seaton (Bald Hills) to the gold towns of Jordan, Jericho, Matlock and Woods Point. It was the only permanent water on the track as the track followed the ridges. The place is a lovely grassed area of some 2 hectares complete with an old lichen covered orchard that consists of fruit trees that would have been planted last century. Last time I was there (hello Shirley and Barry) it was a bit of a mess with garbage such as bottles and tins around it, loose pieces of corrugated iron and discarded furniture, and some half buried stuff such as steel cables. If possible I would like all the rubbish to be collected and placed in one pile so that somebody like the DNRE could collect it later. The Springs is about a half hour drive north of Seaton/Heyfield on a good gravel road (which passes the famous Murderers Hill always mentioned by Edwin Maher in his ABC TV weather reports). It is also a half hour drive NE of Walhalla on a narrower winding mountain gravel road, which is still suitable for a normal car (with care). If you have any comments on the idea in principle and would like to tentatively volunteer, I would like to hear from you on the list. At a later date I will call for people to nominate their proposed sites and depending on responses nominate organisers and call for volunteers. This proposal has the support of the Linda the list administrator, and if successful a page will be set up on the AVG website to help co-ordinate it. Regards Peter Lakeman

I have seen many references to the book "So Tall the Trees",which I believe deals with the Trafalgar,Warragul areas. Can anyone tell me what period it deals with? Also, where would I obtain a copy - hopefully by mail as I live in country NSW. With thanks. Kathleen Dacey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re SUNNY CREEK - John Adams in "So Tall the Trees" (1978), page 66 states: "Sunny Creek was another promising township but it failed to develop because of the proximity of its larger neighbours.". On page 67, Adams continues: "Sunny Creek, named in contrast to the nearby Shady Creek, cuts a course from the Strzelecki Hills in Trafalgar South and enters the swamp west of Trafalgar. Here in 1876 a reserve was marked out for a township at the point where the railway crossed the creek. Blocks of between 8 to 12 or more hectares were laid out, and made available for settlement from October 1879. Some 27 houses were built here in the form of a village settlement ... There had been a fervent hope that a station would be erected here but the close handy villages of Trafalgar and Waterloo [Yarragon] prevented such a move. Consequently Sunny Creek had little opportunity to develop into a full scale township as intended ... The hopes for a station went on into the 1880s ... Eventually in 1891 the Railways erected a siding about 1 km west of the original station site on the creek. The siding still exists today as a widening of the Princes Highway about halfway between Trafalgar and Yarragon ..." Walter Savige

----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 8 November 1999 13:16 Subject: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D Digest V99 #312

Linda, Sunny Creek is on the Princes Hwy approx 3 to 4 kms on the Yarragon side of Trafalgar. There was a creamery there in the early days. My ancestors William Henry Matthews and his wife Sarah, together with their five children Susan, Edwin, Henry, William and Annie,settled there on a small acreage in the late 1870's, having moved from Drysdale on the Bellarine Peninsula, presumably encouraged by the fact that new tracts of land were opening up. Many descendents of the family now live in the Trafalgar?LaTrobe Valley area. Be interested in hearing from anyone with any knowledge of the family The old Sunny Creek school building is now part of the "Gippstown" display at Moe. Gary Matthews, Jeeralang, Vic (gmatthews@hazpower.com)

---> Can anyone help with a Gippsland location for Sunny Creek??? It is not in > Blake's "Place Names of Victoria" > Hi Linda As far as I am aware Sunny Creek is between Thorpdale and Trafalgar. Regards Michele

SUNNY CREEK In 1878 diggers were working in Sunny Creek (Moe Swamp) ref.. The History of Gold Discovery in Victoria by James Fleet ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ Regards Dianne Carroll http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/omeo/ Join List :- Alpine Heritage at = http://www.onelist.com ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~

Hi List, Can anyone help with a Gippsland location for Sunny Creek??? It is not in Blake's "Place Names of Victoria" Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

I am hoping the Gippsland listers may be able to connect to this family. If you can, or know of it, would you please contact me privately. Robert A. Crawford born NSW married Ella Curteis McCaul (b Whorouly Vic 1884). Married at Whorouly in 1908 and moved to Gippsland where they had a farm. They had Colin Crawford, who ended up on the farm owned by the parents originally. John Curteis Crawford who became an announcer with Australian Broadcasting Comm Robert Curteis Crawford and another John Crawford Robert Snr. must have died prior 1926 when Ella remarried. Regards ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Denise Marriott McMahon Brisbane Queensland Searching -CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria, Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England

Hi List, The Deputy has just added two significant new pages to the AVG Home Page. They are a list of Gippsland Newspapers held in Gippsland (find it through the resources page) and an 1874 description of Gippsland and its towns, with a list of pastoral runs, holders and other details such as stock on the run. It can be found in the Library section - if anyone has any articles that they would like to add to the library, please e-mail me privately. It may be that you feel like writing a short history of one of our towns, for example, to go in our library. It can all be found by going to the AVG home page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

G'Day Linda There is a "Sunny Creek" shown on the online gazetteer at URL http://www.environment.gov.au/database/MAN200R.html It seems to be somewhere between Drouin and Warragul. Hope this helps. John in Melbourne Linda Barraclough wrote: > > Hi List, > > Can anyone help with a Gippsland location for Sunny Creek??? It is not in > Blake's "Place Names of Victoria" > > Cheers > > Linda Barraclough > Briagolong > List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND > email: kapana@netspace.net.au > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please try and edit as much as you can out of return messages to the List. It helps make life easier for Rootsweb, as well as all of us on the List.

thanks linda --- Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au> wrote: > Hi List, > > Just a couple of List Admin thingos. > > Maree asked: > > why do i keep getting unsubscribe emails , i would > like to stay on please???? maree > ============================================================ > > For you, and for others that may be interested, the > reason these messages > appear on the list is that people are trying to > unsubscribe from the list, > but mistakenly use the posting address to send their > unsubscribe request to > rather than > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > or > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > > (whichever is appropriate). > > As such, the computer just sends it out to the list > as if it is a normal post. > > They shouldn't really occur, but they do on all > lists. We are not all > experts, and there are a lot of beginners out there. > > As a reminder, a lot of information, including how > to unsubscribe or how to > change between list/digest modes was explained in > the 'welcome' message > everybody received when they joined the list. If > they have lost that > message, it is on the 'FAQ' page on the support > website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > In other words, just ignore them. It is only when > you get an email saying > 'you have been unsubscribed', that you need to > worry. *grin* > > ========================================================== > > Returning messages: > > Just a reminder, which I send out every now and > then, that if you are > sending one-line comments or enquiries back to ONE > person, that you should > do it off-list by typing in their address, rather > than sending it to the > whole list. > > If the message is of interest to the whole list, > please check that you have > highlighted and deleted the majority of the previous > message, rather than > sending the whole, large message back to the whole > list or digest again. > > Cheers > > Linda Barraclough > Briagolong > List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND > email: kapana@netspace.net.au > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Check out the Gippsland Mailing List Home Page at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Any McKerns init?

Dear Linda, Last weeks Weekly Times gave some interesting Time Lines which I have sent off to you today. Regards, Ann At 11:00 PM 19/11/99 +1100, you wrote: >The Final Post for the Time Line. Thank you to all who have helped. > >The Gippsland Time Line was posted to the list in irregular posts - if anyone >has any additions, corrections or suggestions, please feel free to engage in >historical discussion! :) Some of you may even come up with important dates >we have missed. Some state, national and world events are included for >comparison. > >- ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >This time-line is copyright, and was originally extracted from "Steps in Time: A >Gippsland Chronology to 1899". Additions by Dr Walter Savige are also >acknowledged. >It is posted for private study only. > >Earlier, consolidated posts can be found through the AVG Home Page >at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > >Linda Barraclough >Briagolong >List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >email: kapana@netspace.net.au > >------------------------------------------ > >1895 > >(SERIOUS DROUGHT, CONTINUING TO 1902) > >First income tax imposed in Victoria. > >Reef gold discovered at Club Terrace and Brookville. > >1896 > >Feb: Maffra Sugarbeet Company Bill passes final stages in Parliament. > >Sep 23: The Bogong goes down near the mouth of the Snowy River with the loss >of five crew members. > >unk: Arrival of rabbits in Gippsland. > >unk: Teredo worm damage to lake entrance becomes obvious. > >unk: Second briquetting plant built, but later wound up. > >unk: A new bridge is built over the Latrobe River south of Willowgrove. > > >1897 > >Jan 12: The barque County Antrim sinks off Lakes Entrance without loss of life. > >unk: Destruction of entrance during storms begins. > >unk: First sighting of a rabbit at Morwell. > > >1898 > >January 1898 Bushfire swept through Gippsland and the Otway Ranges >destroying townships and killing settlers and their stock. > >Feb 'Black Friday' bushfire, one of a series this year that devastates >Gippsland. > >Jan/Feb - Disastrous bush fires occur in the Thorpdale district - Narracan, >Thorpdale South, Childers, Allambee. > >unk: Royal Commission into Forests. Formation of Forests Conservancy Board. > >unk: Closer Settlement approved. > >unk: New Lands Act is proclaimed. > > >1899 > >March: Great Morwell Coal Mining Company goes into liquidation. > >Mar 28: Malcolm Campbell dies at Sale. > >unk: First Victorian troops leave for the South African (Boer) War. > >Oct: 103 Blocks on the reclaimed Moe Swamp are sold > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >Please do not post virus warnings to the List. Most are hoxes anyway. > >

Hi List, Just a couple of List Admin thingos. Maree asked: why do i keep getting unsubscribe emails , i would like to stay on please???? maree ============================================================ For you, and for others that may be interested, the reason these messages appear on the list is that people are trying to unsubscribe from the list, but mistakenly use the posting address to send their unsubscribe request to rather than AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com or AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com (whichever is appropriate). As such, the computer just sends it out to the list as if it is a normal post. They shouldn't really occur, but they do on all lists. We are not all experts, and there are a lot of beginners out there. As a reminder, a lot of information, including how to unsubscribe or how to change between list/digest modes was explained in the 'welcome' message everybody received when they joined the list. If they have lost that message, it is on the 'FAQ' page on the support website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ In other words, just ignore them. It is only when you get an email saying 'you have been unsubscribed', that you need to worry. *grin* ========================================================== Returning messages: Just a reminder, which I send out every now and then, that if you are sending one-line comments or enquiries back to ONE person, that you should do it off-list by typing in their address, rather than sending it to the whole list. If the message is of interest to the whole list, please check that you have highlighted and deleted the majority of the previous message, rather than sending the whole, large message back to the whole list or digest again. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/