Hello I have a photo taken by Eastwood Brothers, Portrait Parlours, Main Street Bairnsdale. The lady in the photo ( if the family have her named correctly) would have lived in Bairnsdale from 1885 until her death in 1894. 'The Mechanical Eye" tells me p156, that Eastwood brothers started operating in Bairnsdale in 1899, prior to that Frank E. Eastwood and Frederick Eastwood are listed separately 1888-89. This leaves a 10 year gap. Does anyone have any further information on the years that the Eastwood brothers were living in Bairnsdale and taking photos, in particular what years were they at Main Street Thanks Marcia Penny Geelong

Yes, they still live in Korumburra. Try Bridge St. Shirley

Try the Baw Baw Shire Offices at either Warragul or Trafalgar, if copies are still available these would be your best bet. 03 56242411. Regards, Bernie G.

Dear Linda, could you check if any mention is made of Johnston in the diary or Sidebottom. Thank you for your efforts, Regards, Bernie G.

Warragul is now in the Baw Baw Shire At 03:21 PM 27/11/99 +1100, you wrote: >Betty Freeman, > >Another lister also asked about where to purchase "So Tall the Trees" and I >replied only two days ago (25 Nov). > >I stated that copies had been available for purchase at Shire of Narracan >Office at Trafalgar a few years ago, but the shires have since been >rearranged. I had hoped that some "clued up" lister might have known in >which new shire the old Shire of Narracan is now included, but there has >been a deafening silence. My guess would be the Shire of Warragul. I suggest >that you try the Warragul Shire office. > >Walter Savige. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >Morwell Historical Society now has a web page!!!! >http://members.xoom.com/morwell/index.htm > >

Hi List, I have just picked up a copy of "folie a deux: William and Caroline Dexter in Colonial Australia" for $25 from Traralgon newsagency. It is by Patrick Morgan, and is 173 pages. It details the life of a couple who lived in Stratford and were involved in Sale for some time, and as such several chapters provide an interesting picture of Gippsland around 1860. There is also some interesting reflection on Angus McMillan. Publisher is Quakers Hill Press, 6 Caper Place, Quakers Hill, NSW 2763. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Hi List, I have just picked up a copy of "Secrets of the Ghost Towns of the Mountain Goldfields" by Luke Steenhuis. This is a more professional print, and considerably updated, of the version that was around a few years ago as a photocopy. It should not be confused with his other book, "Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country". The sub-title for the new one is now "Featuring 50 Former Towns in and around Melbourne's North-East Mountain Region" I picked my copy up for $17.95 in the Traralgon newsagency, I assume it is around in other outlets. It is distributed by Australian Bush and Country Maps, Ph 03-5964 7011. It is 92 pages, profusely illustrated with maps and quite a few photos I haven't seen before. For those unfamiliar with Luke's books, they take the form of an alphabetical list of the towns, usually one to a page, sometimes with an old map, somethimes with a photo, sometimes with both. It does have an index. Towns and areas in this book are shown below. Many of the towns have so many alternate names it is not possible to list them, but they do appear in the index. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ ============================================================ The book covers: A1 Mine Settlement Aberfeldy Aberfeldy Crossing Alhambra All Nations BB Township Beenak Black River Blue Jacket Britannia Township Brooklyn Town Brunton Cannon's Town Cherry's Point Concord Gully Coopers Creek Cumberland Darlingford Donovans Creek (inc. Chesterville and Walkers) Donnellys Creek Edwards Reef Enoch's Point Fernshaw (Watts River) Fulton's Creek Gaffney's Creek Gooley's Creek Granton Happy Go Lucky (Pearson) Howqua Hills Jericho Kevington Knockwood Loch Fyne Maidentown Matlock Mormontown New Chum Old Warburton Paradise Plains Red Jacket Reefton Russells Creek Seaton St Clair Store Point Tangil Ten Mile (Sailor Bills) The Springs Toombon Tullamore Upper Thomson Victors Quartz Violet Town Walhalla Woods Point Wyetown

Hi Betty and all Second hand copies of "So Tall the Trees" are also available via the internet or local shops. At http://www.bibliofind.com/cgi-bin/texis.exe/s/search three copies are advertised but the cheapest copy is: ADAMS, JOHN.: So Tall the Trees. A Centenary History of the Southern Districts of the Shire Of Narracan. ; reprint; 8vo; pp. 256; 7 pages of plates, 1 map, appendix, select bibliography, references, index; dustjacket. (Trafalgar), Narracan Shire, 1989. Australian vic local history trafalgar yarragon thorpdale walhalla Offered for sale by Time Booksellers at AUD25.00 Gail New Zealand > Another lister also asked about where to purchase "So Tall the Trees" and I > replied only two days ago (25 Nov). > I stated that copies had been available for purchase at Shire of Narracan > Office at Trafalgar a few years ago,

Hello Vivienne, Not a lot, but the wrench family ran a footwear business in K'Burra, for over 100 years in fact up until the lest couple of years. Jack Wrench unfortunately sufferred a stroke a few years ago and died in the last 3 years. Mary(nee McKenzie) was a neighbour of mine at Mardan South [1948-1956] and I understand she is still resident in Korumburra. bfn John Vivienne Caldwell wrote: > Hi list > > Does anyone have any connection with the Wrench family who settled in > Korumburra in the 1880s, previously living at Sofala in New South Wales? > > Viv > -- > Vivienne Caldwell > Wollongong NSW > http://www.zip.com.au/~viv > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > This list is set so that, by default, when you use the "Reply to Sender" option, replies go to the WHOLE list (about three hundred people). Make sure this is what you mean to do before sending. -- John Whitehand West Footscray 3012 AU. http://www.vicnet.net.au/~whitehaj/welcome.htm

Hi Kerri, This is probably more than you wanted but the Waide's were easy to look up :-)) not many of them.. There is a site called Maxi that you can go to to look-up registrations etc but it costs. What is Marbract ? Regards, Vicki Simpson, Gold Coast simpson@ircnet.com.au Looking For: ELTON & WHITE(Scotland & Victoria) GROOME, WADDINGTON, TOWNS (UK) McDONALD & POINTOVISKI/PATOSKY/BATOSKY (Tasmania & anywhere) HOGAN, BERESFORD (Ireland & Victoria) Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patrick Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: OBRIEN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1862 Reg Number: 1613 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Mary Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TABILK Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 154 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patrick Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: AVENEL Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 6717 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Ellen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: AVEN Death Place: Year: 1870 Reg Number: 152 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Margaret Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: AVEN Death Place: Year: 1871 Reg Number: 158 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Henry Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TABI Death Place: Year: 1872 Reg Number: 20955 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: William Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: MCIV Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 9893 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Annie Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: AVENEL Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 19504 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Mary Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TATU Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 26249 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Daniel Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TATU Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 19709 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: John Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TA TU Death Place: Year: 1878 Reg Number: 19543 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Catherine Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TATU Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 19796 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Mary Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Patrick Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen UNKNOWN Age: 5M Sex: Birth Place: AVEN Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 90 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Ellen Agnes Event: D Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Pat Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen O BRIEN Age: 22 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Lr Tarwin Year: 1893 Reg. Number: 2538 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Danl Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: MCCAUGHAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Age: Age Code: Birth Place: VIC Death Place: Year: 1907 Reg. Number: 8311 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Danl Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Danl Jos Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Agnes MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 21376 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Mary Philomena Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Danl Jos Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1908 Reg. Number: 28219 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Wm Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: LYNCH Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Age: Age Code: Birth Place: NMELB Death Place: Year: 1903 Reg. Number: 726 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Jas Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 4547 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Jno Hy Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 31626 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Margt Ellen Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1906 Reg. Number: 27915 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Mary Agnes Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1905 Reg. Number: 11715 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Rose Cath Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 21382 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Wm Patk Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LR TARWIN Death Place: Year: 1908 Reg. Number: 12745 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Cath Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: CULLINAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Stephen Jas Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1916 Reg. Number: 7022 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Hy Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: DOOLAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Lucy Mary Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 1608 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patk Joseph Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Waide Hy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary MEHAN Age: 78 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Lgatha Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 6210 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patrick Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Daniel Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1920 Reg. Number: 32756 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Ellen Josine A Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Waide Danl Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Agnes MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Eca Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 13711 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Ellen Josine Agatha Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Danl Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Agnes MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: ECA Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 30715 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patrick Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Waide Danl Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt MCCAUGHAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Lgatha Year: 1920 Reg. Number: 15091 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Joseph Leonard Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary LYNCH Age: Age Code: Birth Place: LGATHA Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 23709 Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Patk Jos Father: Waide Patk Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Death Place: RMOND Age: 67 Age Code: Year: 1935 Reg Number: 6163 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Danl Joseph Father: Waide Patrick Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Death Place: FITZ S Age: Age Code: Year: 1922 Reg Number: 12991 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Annie Teresa Father: Waide Patk Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Death Place: KYABRAM Age: 75 Age Code: Year: 1946 Reg Number: 21164 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: John Edw Father: Patrick Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Death Place: YWONGA Age: 72 Age Code: Year: 1951 Reg Number: 19865 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Wm Jos Father: Patck Mother: Ellen OBRIEN Death Place: LGATHA Age: 87 Age Code: Year: 1952 Reg Number: 17111 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Hy Jas Father: Waide Patk Jos Mother: Ellen Mary OBRIEN Death Place: KYABRAM Age: 63 Age Code: Year: 1936 Reg Number: 19580 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Daniel Francis Father: Waide Daniel Jos Mother: Margaret MCCAUGHAN Death Place: HBERG Age: 36 Age Code: Year: 1947 Reg Number: 5871 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Margaret Agnes Father: Mccaughan John Mother: Margaret MILLER Death Place: MELB Age: 82 Age Code: Year: 1967 Reg Number: 20603 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: John Henry Father: William Mother: Mary Death Place: GEEL Age: 68 Age Code: Year: 1981 Reg Number: 10692 Event: D Surname: WAIDE Given Names: Wm Patrick Father: Waide Wm Joseph Mother: Mary LYNCH Death Place: LGATHA Age: 15 Age Code: Year: 1923 Reg Number: 15480 Event: D

At 14:19 11/27/1999 +1100, you wrote: >Greetings >I am new to the list and any help would be >appreciated. >Most of my family are from NSW and I have >used Marbract Transcriptions for varification >of names. Is there such a service in Victoria? >Looking for information on 'WAIDE' Leongatha. I have checked your dates and given you the registered numbers in case you want any copies. Victoria does not have any transcribers, so be careful as copioes can be quite expensive. You have duplicated MARY, but never mind, you can drop one of her numbers. Can't vouch for after 1899 dates as my records don't go that far. Hope this helps you Regards Irene >PATRICK WAIDE >ELLEN O'BRIEN >m. 1862#1613 >Children: >1]MARY ...........b. 1866 Tabilka ref no. 19504 ......d. 1866 Avenel ref no 90 >2]ANNIE............b. 1867 Avenel ref no 19504 >3]PATRICK.......b. 1868 Avenel ref no 6717......d. 1926 >4]ELLEN............b. 1870 Avenel ref no 152 >5]MARGARET...b. 1871 Avenel ref no 158 >6]HENRY............b. 1872 Tabilka ref no 20955 >7]MARY..............b. 1866 Tabilka ref no 1541 d. 1866 Avenel ref no 90 >8]WILLIAM..........b. 1865 Mciv(?) ref no 9893 >9]DANIEL JOSEPH............b. 1876 Tatura ref no 19709 >married..................................1907 >spouse..............................MARGARET McCAUGHAN > Children: > MARY PHILOMENA > b..................1908..........Leongatha > m. 17 Feb.1938..........Melbourne > spouse...........................LANCE MASON > died.....May 1959..........Glenorchy Tas. > >10]JOHN................b..1878 Tatura ref no 19543 >11]CATHERINE....b. 1879 Tatura ref no 19796. >I am yet to varify these dates and names, >so please contact me if you know the information >is incorrect. >Many Thanks >Kerri Pateman

Hi list Does anyone have any connection with the Wrench family who settled in Korumburra in the 1880s, previously living at Sofala in New South Wales? Viv -- Vivienne Caldwell Wollongong NSW http://www.zip.com.au/~viv

Hi Walter Thanks for the information . T.J.Children would be to old for you to know as the youngest born 1881 and that was George Mervyn and as far as I know he only had girls. Thank you again Lorraine. Walter Savige wrote: > Lorraine Key, > > In my message I neglected to mention that the PRO is moving from Laverton to > North Melbourne. For Information about obtaining records, see their > website - www.prov.vic.gov.au > > Re land parish maps - I should point out that it is sometimes difficult to > find out the locations of parishes, and the boundaries sometimes undergo > change. The annual publication "Municipal Directories of Victoria" should be > consulted. The name of the parish is not always the same as the name of the > town. My impression is that the Warragul area north of the railway line > comprises the Parish of Drouin East. To the east of that is the Parish of > Darnum, extending to about Shady Creek. Further east again is the parish of > Yarragon which includes the Trafalgar - Moe Swamp. The Warragul area south > of the railway line comprises the Parish of Warragul, extending to Yarragon. > The Parish of Moe comprises the districts of Trafalgar South, Moe South, > Thorpdale and Thopdale South, including the upper Narracan Creek. The parish > of Narracan comprised the area between McDonalds Track and the Morwell > River, extending to the Latrobe River and part of Moe township.. > > The Lillico - Nilma North book I mentioned includes copies of photos of a > number of Nilma North school groups which include children named CLARK - for > example, Allie and Pat Clark in 1930 and 1932. Also, the Honor Roll for the > 1st World War includes the name N. Clark. There are a number of references > in the book to families named CLARKE (with an "e"). > > I failed to find entries for your CLARKs in the indexes of the following > books - > "Victoria and its Metropolis", Volume 2 (1888). > "Forests Old Pastures New - a History of Warragul", by Sally Wilde (1949). > I also had a cursory look through "Warragul - Progress through a Century" by > Warragul and District Historical Society (1982, unindexed). > > What were the names of some of the children of your T.J. and/or G.M. Clark? > I once knew a Harley CLARK of Warragul. > > Walter Savige > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Morwell Historical Society now has a web page!!!! > http://members.xoom.com/morwell/index.htm

Betty Freeman, Another lister also asked about where to purchase "So Tall the Trees" and I replied only two days ago (25 Nov). I stated that copies had been available for purchase at Shire of Narracan Office at Trafalgar a few years ago, but the shires have since been rearranged. I had hoped that some "clued up" lister might have known in which new shire the old Shire of Narracan is now included, but there has been a deafening silence. My guess would be the Shire of Warragul. I suggest that you try the Warragul Shire office. Walter Savige.

Greetings I am new to the list and any help would be appreciated. Most of my family are from NSW and I have used Marbract Transcriptions for varification of names. Is there such a service in Victoria? Looking for information on 'WAIDE' Leongatha. PATRICK WAIDE ELLEN O'BRIEN m. 1862#1613 Children: 1]MARY ...........b. 1866.......d. 1866 2]ANNIE............b. 1867 3]PATRICK.......b. 1868......d. 1926 4]ELLEN............b. 1870 5]MARGARET...b. 1871 6]HENRY............b. 1872 7]MARY..............b. 1875 8]WILLIAM..........b. 1875 9]DANIEL JOSEPH............b. 1876 married..................................1907 spouse..............................MARGARET McCAUGHAN Children: MARY PHILOMENA b..................1908..........Leongatha m. 17 Feb.1938..........Melbourne spouse...........................LANCE MASON died.....May 1959..........Glenorchy Tas. 10]JOHN................b..1878 11]CATHERINE....b. 1879 I am yet to varify these dates and names, so please contact me if you know the information is incorrect. Many Thanks Kerri Pateman Mornington Peninsula Victoria

Try the Old Ensay Bookshop if you don't get any other suggestion.Specialities include collectables, Gippsland and the Alps, Australiana and Aborigines and general stock. 03 5157 3228 Mail Order lists can be accessed http://www.users.bigpond.com/ngarak and E-mail ngarak@bigpond.com.au Regards, Ann Burnell. At 09:09 AM 26/11/99 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Can someone tell me where I could purchase "So Tall the Trees" as is >sounds like a good book to have? > >BTW, I am in Brisbane so purchase of book might be difficult. > >Regards, >Betty Freeman. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >Have you registered your surname interests on the Gippsland Mailing List Home Page: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/surnames.html#top > >

Hi LIst, Several of you have asked where to purchase books such as "So Tall the Trees" by John Adams. If you go to the AVG Mailing List Home Page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ and go from there to "Links" you will find two on-line sites that search a number of bookshops. All you need to do is put in Adams as an author. I often go there and browse with a subject of "Gippsland" and it is amazing what you can find. Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

> It's early days yet, and only covers Central Gippsland, but keep an eye on http://www.stripmaps.com > Useful for those away from the area having problems working out some towns. also keep an eye on the Project 2000 for information towns in Victoria and Australia at: http://www.zades.com.au/ozindex/ozindex.html and some basic info for those that have forgotten what it's all about: Members of the Bellarine Historical Society in Victoria, and residents of the towns of the Bellarine Peninsula have commenced a major project to document the history of their local areas on the Internet. These histories include towns, buildings, families, schools,environment - in fact any subject which adds to the history of the Bellarine Peninsula. These are not all encompassing histories and certainly do not replace the need for researchers to visit or contact the Historical Society and other local repositories for more detailed information. The purpose of these histories is to increase the awareness of the depth of history on the Peninsula and to encourage further research into local archives. This local project generated a lot of interest and requests from other groups to expand the project - initially in Victoria, but more recently across Australia. It became obvious that there was a need to :- provide a comprehensive index of existing histories of places in Australia expand the number of histories on the Internet of places in Australia assist others who wanted to contribute to this project but were not sure how to go about it. The end result is PROJECT 2000 - a special project adopted by the Melbourne Dead Persons' Society (DPS). The aim is to have a history of every location in Australia on the Internet before the year 2000. so check out the above web site for your town or area.....it just may be there. cheers, Leone

Lorraine Key, In my message I neglected to mention that the PRO is moving from Laverton to North Melbourne. For Information about obtaining records, see their website - www.prov.vic.gov.au Re land parish maps - I should point out that it is sometimes difficult to find out the locations of parishes, and the boundaries sometimes undergo change. The annual publication "Municipal Directories of Victoria" should be consulted. The name of the parish is not always the same as the name of the town. My impression is that the Warragul area north of the railway line comprises the Parish of Drouin East. To the east of that is the Parish of Darnum, extending to about Shady Creek. Further east again is the parish of Yarragon which includes the Trafalgar - Moe Swamp. The Warragul area south of the railway line comprises the Parish of Warragul, extending to Yarragon. The Parish of Moe comprises the districts of Trafalgar South, Moe South, Thorpdale and Thopdale South, including the upper Narracan Creek. The parish of Narracan comprised the area between McDonalds Track and the Morwell River, extending to the Latrobe River and part of Moe township.. The Lillico - Nilma North book I mentioned includes copies of photos of a number of Nilma North school groups which include children named CLARK - for example, Allie and Pat Clark in 1930 and 1932. Also, the Honor Roll for the 1st World War includes the name N. Clark. There are a number of references in the book to families named CLARKE (with an "e"). I failed to find entries for your CLARKs in the indexes of the following books - "Victoria and its Metropolis", Volume 2 (1888). "Forests Old Pastures New - a History of Warragul", by Sally Wilde (1949). I also had a cursory look through "Warragul - Progress through a Century" by Warragul and District Historical Society (1982, unindexed). What were the names of some of the children of your T.J. and/or G.M. Clark? I once knew a Harley CLARK of Warragul. Walter Savige

Hi Walter for all that information in 1912 they were listed as Nilma. I thought there might have been something on Thomas as he was and oringinal director of the Cheese/Milk factory there. never mind I will keep looking The Savages must be a different lot Thomas Clark sister married a Savage back in about 1866 but mostly in Seymour. Thanks again for all that information Lorraine Walter Savige wrote: > Lorraine Key, > The book "The Path of Progress" (1934) by Hugh Copeland relates to early > selections in the Warragul district. It was reprinted with an index in 1982. > The name Clark does not appear in the index. > > Yhe book "Buln Buln" (Drouin, 1979 - 794 pages) by Graeme Butler covers the > area north, west and south of Warragul. The names T.J. Clark and G.M. Clark > are not shown in the index. > > The book "The Changing Years" (1972 - 60 pages) by Marie Nation, Joyce Erbs > et al (1972) relates to the Hill End, Willow Grove and Fumina Districts. > > There are several boioklets relating to Nilma, Darnum and Ellinbank - e.g. > "Lillico - Nilma North" by L & NN Centenary Celebration and Reunion > Committee (undated, probably about 1980 - 60 pages). There is no index. I > regret that I don't have time to look through it for your Clarks. > > I would advise you to find out where your Clarks were living (e.g. from > early directories or electoral rolls). Next, identify the land parish (from > Municipal directories), and then check the Schedule of Allotments for that > parish (Vic Government Bookshop) and find the position of the allotment in a > parish map. Note the file number of the allotment, then visit PRO Laverton > (or employ a searcher) and photocopy all documents in the file. > These should include the origfinal application of the selector for an > occupation licence, an application three years later for a Crown Lease > (which provides an enormous amount of information about the dwelling, crops, > etc) and all letters sent to the Lands Department by the selector. > . > You ask; "Have you researched Savige/Savage at all?'. > Members of the Savige family have been interested in the history of the > family for many years. Reference to the history of the family is made in > "There Goes a Man" (1959) by W.B. Russell - a Biography of Lieut-General Sir > Stanley G. Savige (who served his country in two World Wars and was founder > of Legacy). On page 13, reference is made to two branches of the family in > Gippsland - 'the Hill Saviges' (descendants of Thomas Savige and his wife > Annie Powell) and the 'Swamp Saviges' (descendants of John Savige and Emma > Russell)..[John and Thomas Savige were brotrhers who selected land in the > Narracan hills in 1877-5. Thomas and Annie lived out their lives at > Narracan, while John and family moved to Moe in about 1885.] > > In May 1961, in order to mark the 90th birthday of their father Albert > (Bert) Savige, Russell Savige and his sister Meryl Jackson of Moe organised > a family gathering of all Savige descendants at Narracan Falls. Over 500 > descendants attended and pages of pictures were shown in the "Weekly Times". > The reunions have been held triennially ever since. The 13th reunion was > held in March of this year, and some English and American relatives came > over in order to attend... > > Several books relating to the history of the family have been published - > the first by Ronald Murray Savige in 1966. Mrs Margot Titcher later > continued the research into the early history of the family in southern > Northamptonshire, and I teamed up with her following my retirement in 1980. > Our most recent book is "Savage-Savige" (1996). > > Walter Savige . > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > To post enquiries about Victorian families OUTSIDE Gippsland, you can subscribe to AUS-VIC-D-request@rootsweb.com by sending an e-mail with only the word subscribe in the body of the message.