Good Morning to the LIST and sorry if you get this twice but I would just like to say that I am overwhelmed by the help that I recieved from this email a couple of days ago. I really would like to thank Sandra for all her EFFORTS which I am greatful, Walter who went to school with John Chown ,Ken and Lesley,Helene I hope that I have thanked you all personally but would really like the list to know that I have well and truelly been helped and payed back for all the look ups that I do for people. Makes it all worth while. That part of my Children's tree well and truelly filled with lots of leaves I am THRILLED and very APPRECIATIVE for all the help. Have a nice day and take care Alice in Toowoomba,Queensland,Australia ICQ # 4756921 Looking for FLOAT/E in Kent to South Australia,SMITH in South Australia, ROBINSON in Manchester to Australia,VICKERY in Australia WHITTENBURY in Manchester, WARBURTON in Victoria,Aust CHITTENDEN in Kent, BULLOCK in Victoria ,Aust MILLS in Kent to Australia, AUTY in Victoria,Aust NICHOLLS,SEARLE,WILLIAMS in Kenwyn,Cornwall to Australia NORTON in Northampton to South Australia, HAINES,MIDDLEBROOK,DeKIEVIT,FOLEY to South Australia

Hi back to you Clare and I have VICKERY in our family too. We are related to Frederick James VICKERY he married Alice Sarah Warburton in 1905 and had the following children Alfred Joseph b 1907 d 1970 Frederick Kenny b 1906 d 1906 Harold James b 1909 d 1932 Horace George b 1911 d 1985 all born Fitzroy Hope that some sound like yours and hope to hear back from you Have a nice day and take care Alice in Toowoomba,Queensland,Australia ICQ # 4756921 Looking for FLOAT/E in Kent to South Australia,SMITH in South Australia, ROBINSON in Manchester to Australia,VICKERY in Australia WHITTENBURY in Manchester, WARBURTON in Victoria,Aust CHITTENDEN in Kent, BULLOCK in Victoria ,Aust MILLS in Kent to Australia, AUTY in Victoria,Aust NICHOLLS,SEARLE,WILLIAMS in Kenwyn,Cornwall to Australia NORTON in Northampton to South Australia, HAINES,MIDDLEBROOK,DeKIEVIT,FOLEY to South Australia -----Original Message----- From: ROBERT DIXON <ozdicko@iinet.net.au> To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: [AVG] Research - VICKERY >Hi everyone, > >I am new to the list and I am researching the above family - VICKERY. Henry George Vickery married Mary Ann Greenwood on 2 June 1867 in Walhalla, Gippsland. They had 10 children between 1868 and 1886 all born in Walhalla. >Henry George Vickery b 17 Jan 1841 Watchet, Somersetshire, England d 17 August 1890 Kew Asylum. >Mary Ann Greenwood b 29 October 1850 Hobart, Tasmania d 8 December 1905 Gippsland Hosp, Sale. > >Children:- >Alice Elizabeth Vickery (my grandmother) m Celeste Mosca in Subiaco, Western Australia >Louisa Mary Vickery m James Worthington >Henry William Vickery m Helen Cavanagh >Walter George Vickery died baby >Arthur Herbert Vickery m Mary Ann Kappe >Clara Ellen Vickery m Charles Alfred McKinley >Mabel Agnes Vickery m George Ashton Latham >Charles Walter Vickery m Agnes Margaret Downie >Frederick Thomas Vickery >James Patrick Vickery m Agnes ? > >I've been told by a distant cousin from England, who actually went to Walhalla in search of information on Henry George (a gold miner) that he found a couple of good books on the early days of Walhalla. They are "Mountain Gold" by John Adams and "Walhalla Heyday" by G.F. James and C. G. Lee. Could someone please advise if these books are still available and if they are not too expensive, how I could go about purchasing them. This cousin actually sent me a copy of a letter written by Henry in 1866 from STRINGER'S CREEK, (which of course is now Walhalla) and sent to an uncle in England. This was a wonderful discovery. > >Regards, Clare Dixon >Connolly, Western Australia ozdicko@iinet.net.au > >______________________________

Hi everyone, I am new to the list and I am researching the above family - VICKERY. Henry George Vickery married Mary Ann Greenwood on 2 June 1867 in Walhalla, Gippsland. They had 10 children between 1868 and 1886 all born in Walhalla. Henry George Vickery b 17 Jan 1841 Watchet, Somersetshire, England d 17 August 1890 Kew Asylum. Mary Ann Greenwood b 29 October 1850 Hobart, Tasmania d 8 December 1905 Gippsland Hosp, Sale. Children:- Alice Elizabeth Vickery (my grandmother) m Celeste Mosca in Subiaco, Western Australia Louisa Mary Vickery m James Worthington Henry William Vickery m Helen Cavanagh Walter George Vickery died baby Arthur Herbert Vickery m Mary Ann Kappe Clara Ellen Vickery m Charles Alfred McKinley Mabel Agnes Vickery m George Ashton Latham Charles Walter Vickery m Agnes Margaret Downie Frederick Thomas Vickery James Patrick Vickery m Agnes ? I've been told by a distant cousin from England, who actually went to Walhalla in search of information on Henry George (a gold miner) that he found a couple of good books on the early days of Walhalla. They are "Mountain Gold" by John Adams and "Walhalla Heyday" by G.F. James and C. G. Lee. Could someone please advise if these books are still available and if they are not too expensive, how I could go about purchasing them. This cousin actually sent me a copy of a letter written by Henry in 1866 from STRINGER'S CREEK, (which of course is now Walhalla) and sent to an uncle in England. This was a wonderful discovery. Regards, Clare Dixon Connolly, Western Australia ozdicko@iinet.net.au

Hi to the List and was wondering if any one has or knows of Charles CHOWN died 1940 in the Rosedale area.Charles married Eliza Chapple . Henry William CHOWN married Louisa Nicholls 1898 and died also Rosedale 1940. Would like to hear from any one with any information on this name, Have a nice day and take care Alice in Toowoomba,Queensland,Australia ICQ # 4756921 Looking for FLOAT/E in Kent to South Australia,SMITH in South Australia, ROBINSON in Manchester to Australia,VICKERY in Australia WHITTENBURY in Manchester, WARBURTON in Victoria,Aust CHITTENDEN in Kent, BULLOCK in Victoria ,Aust MILLS in Kent to Australia, AUTY in Victoria,Aust NICHOLLS,SEARLE,WILLIAMS in Kenwyn,Cornwall to Australia NORTON in Northampton to South Australia, HAINES,MIDDLEBROOK,DeKIEVIT,FOLEY to South Australia

A reminder to those of you who live in Gippsland: the annual regional conference of Gippsland historical societies will be held at Mirboo North on Saturday, May 6th. The morning will be devoted to the meeting; the afternoon to lunch and a town walk. Friends, rellies and hangers-on are all welcome to join in the latter. For those of you who don't know the town, you'll find it a delightful surprise. If you require further details, just e-mail me back. Yours, Jeremy Look me up at www.maffra.net.au/jjbpage.htm

Dear List Folk This family lived in the Korumburra area from about 1880 to at least 1962. We have a photo of a memorial stone with "Sanders Pionees" on the upright section but can not read more. Please, how can I find out more about this and others in K. cemetery? Would love to hear from anyone one else interested in this family. Jean in New Zealand

I believe it is a State Library travelling exhibition of photographs from the 1956 Olympics, now open at Omeo and later will go to Leongatha? The curator was interviewed on Gippsland ABC on Monday afternoon. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough [mailto:kapana@netspace.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 6:55 PM To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVG] Chairs exhibition - preliminary notice Hi List, Preliminary notice that an exhibition of historic chairs, based on one two years ago by Stratford Historical Society, will open at the Gippsland Art Gallery, Sale, Tuesday 9th May and run until Thursday 8th June. Some fascinating historical chairs not previously seem outside their own home area will be on show. More details closer to the time. And, did I hear there is a special exhibition on at Omeo regarding the Olympics - that is later going to South Gippsland. Has anyone any details???? Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Hi List, Preliminary notice that an exhibition of historic chairs, based on one two years ago by Stratford Historical Society, will open at the Gippsland Art Gallery, Sale, Tuesday 9th May and run until Thursday 8th June. Some fascinating historical chairs not previously seem outside their own home area will be on show. More details closer to the time. And, did I hear there is a special exhibition on at Omeo regarding the Olympics - that is later going to South Gippsland. Has anyone any details???? Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Thankyou very much, everyone, for all the useful advice. Once I have taken advantage of all the help that I have received, I am sure there will be more questions!! The explanation re: Cemetry burials was good. The Folk-lore stops here.:-) Lesley

Hi Linda I have a Patrick Donoghue in my brother-in-laws family who was living and farming at Lindenow prior to his marriage in 1898. He arrived in Australia around 1888 and I believe went straight to Gippsland. He married Mary Elizabeth Deery (b. Bairnsdale but living in Bengworden) and together they had five children in the district at Coongulmerang until 1906 and they moved to Nambrok and had another five children. I would welcome any reference to this family if you come across them. As I continue my research into the family I will also keep in mind anything I find for the area and forward it onto you. Kind regards Karen McCormack Melbourne, Australia karenm@bigpond.net.au -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 6 April 2000 23:01 Subject: [AVG] Lindenow Families >Hi List, > >I am about to start work in the near future on a history of Lindenow and >surrounding districts (eg Walpa, Wuk Wuk, Coongulmerang). This is going to >be a very long term project. At this stage I am just putting the word out, >so that people can register with me if they have an interest in any families >in the area, and would be interested in contributing details of their >families or hearing from me if I come across them in my research. > >First outing will be to the Field Days up there on 28th and 29th April, >where I will be set up for people to give me details as well. So if you are >there, call by. > >Cheers > >Linda Barraclough >Briagolong >List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >email: kapana@netspace.net.au >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > >

Hi List, At 07:34 AM 8/04/00 +0800, Lesley wrote: >It is also anecdotal in our family that people were buried standing up >because of the steepness of the cemetry, so there must be something in it. > >I am posting this to the list as well, because of this unique burial custom! > I have to say that I think this is the Walhalla version of an urban myth. The cemetery is on the side of a very steep hill, and is terraced. Some of the headsones have little platforms built out so they can be flat. And, from memory, some may run along the contour of the hill - which is an easier way to bury people than digging an extra deep hole to stand them up. I have heard this story often, but on a number of visits to the cemetery I have found the layout does not support the suggestion. Sorry. :( Linda

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Hi List Today I went to the opening exhibition at the Foster Museum and I must congratulate the organizers on a great job WELL DONE on the presentation of the exhibition The Guest speaker was very interesting to listen to and the whole afternoon was excellent with approx 48 people in attendance. The exhibition was focused on " Mines, Men & Secret Women's Work in Sth.Gippsland and the experience of war " The exhibition is OPEN till Wed 26th April and is well worth a visit. Regards Noelene Lyons Librarian Wonthaggi Genealogy Inc.

Hi Kim, Thank you very much for the Rogers' information, which is just what I needed re: Matthew and Catherine Eliza. They were listed as just 'dead' on their parents death certs. On William's death cert., the little girl was Catherine, and on Elizabeth's, the little girl was called Eliza. It is also anecdotal in our family that people were buried standing up because of the steepness of the cemetry, so there must be something in it. I am posting this to the list as well, because of this unique burial custom! Thanks again for the info. Lesley

Lee wrote: Whilst trekking in the Walhalla area recently, I came across the grave of Kitty Cain alongside the road to Matlock. There is nothing marked only a cross on the grave so does anyone know who she was and the story behind her? ======================= oooh, thought everyone would be having a go at this one. Kitty Kane was said to be a lady of large proportions who kept a shanty. She was being carried to the cemtery when the miners apparently gave up and buried her by the roadside. Maybe someone out there who can find their copy of Rogers and Hellyar on Gippsland Graves can give some more details, like a date??? Cheers Linda Barraclough Briagolong List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND email: kapana@netspace.net.au http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/

Lee, to quote from "Lonely graves of the Gippsland Goldfields and Greater Gippsland" by J.G.Rogers & Nelly Helyar: "Kitty Cane was a supposed dance hall girl, having arrived in the district during the heyday of Wood's Point and surrounding goldfields. She was carted by packhorse to the district by Louie the Frenchman, for nine pence per pound...she weighed in at 22 stone. Kitty soon set up a wayside tavern along the side of the road near Aberfeldy...Her business venture survived for only a short time as Kitty died at her tavern of an unknown ailment. Local miners hearing of the stressful situation, arrived to give Kitty the great sendoff they thought she truely deserved. Several men intended to carry her to the Aberfeldy Cemetery, but most had imbibed too freely of her wines and they gave up the attempt. Kitty's great weight and their state of inebriation defeated them and they laid her body to rest a short distance from her shanty... her grave, clearly seen and signposted ...on the Walhalla side of Aberfeldy Later, the book explores the mystery behind Kitty Cain, asking the question whether Kitty Cain was actually Catherine Lowe who died at Aberfeldy in 1863 - Claire ===== Claire Wood Traralgon, Vic. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

> Hi Lesley, > William ROGERS d 17 Apr 1899 aged 45. > Elizabeth Anne ROGERS d 1 Sep 1898 aged 43. Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Query ----- Surname : rogers (1138 matches) Given Names : elizth anne (128 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Elizth Anne Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Mitchell Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizth URENE Age: 43 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Whalla Year: 1898 Reg. Number: 14280 Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Query ----- Surname : rogers (1138 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : wm (81854 matches) Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : mitchell (1690 matches) Total matching records: 4 -------------------- Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Cath Eliza Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizth Ann MITCHELL Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WALHALLA Death Place: Year: 1895 Reg. Number: 25218 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Cath Eliza Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Rogers Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizth Ann MITCHELL Age: Age Code: M Birth Place: Death Place: Wathalla Year: 1896 Reg. Number: 4156 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Mat Event: D Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizth Ann MITCHELL Age: 3 Age Code: D Birth Place: Death Place: Walhalla Year: 1893 Reg. Number: 12353 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Wm Jno Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizth Ann MITCHELL Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WALHALLA Death Place: Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 27028 ROGERS, Evelina CB 1774999 Birth Father: William Mother: Mitchell Elizabet Event Place: Walh Reg Year: 1887 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 32671 Extracted from the Australian Vital Records Index - Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Query ----- Father : wm rogers (168 matches) Mother : elizth mitchell (387 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: JACKSON Given Names: Annie Marie Father: Rogers Wm Mother: Eliz MITCHELL Death Place: BALLT Age: 70 Age Code: Year: 1951 Reg Number: 19992 Event: D Let me know if you want me to look anything else up ....... With the registration numbers you can write to the BDM's and get the cert's - > The questions I want to ask are: > > 4. There may be two children buried with the ROGERS, as I have no way of > knowing if these two were born in Walhalla, or were born in California where > William and Elizabeth were married, and my gt. grandmother was born. Lesley, as you see I didn't find all the children's births - will have another look - perhaps I didn't look hard enough. HOWEVER my father told me many years ago that everyone was buried on their feet in WALHALLA - someone correct me if this is not correct....... There are certainly a lot of graves in Walhalla - or were 20 odd years ago (keep forgetting I don't live in AUS anymore!) And I certainly believed him because they were on the side of a very steep hill..... So perhaps they are not all in the one grave - or did they bury them side by side ...... Hope this helps Kim Harbeck Steiger Switzerland

Yes, Linda, The PRO is moving records to the new "home" in North Melbourne, from Laverton. Sadly for me and those of us on this side of the city, the Laverton research rooms have now closed and only the Melbourne room is open for research till about 2002, I think. Some records are still available for access through Melbourne room, using a somewhat difficult (for us, anyway) system of ordering. The PRO website probably gives more details of this now. I am not sure, but I think that they do still answer phone or mail enquiries so perhaps Lesley may be able to use this avenue. A CD ROM index of inquests in Vict. is about to be released in coming months. Available through Macbeth, I think or Gould Books, for anyone interested. Margaret in Terang. >From: Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au> >To: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AVG] Lindenow Families >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:54:43 +1000 (EST) > >Hi List, > >I am about to start work in the near future on a history of Lindenow and >surrounding districts (eg Walpa, Wuk Wuk, Coongulmerang). This is going to >be a very long term project. At this stage I am just putting the word out, >so that people can register with me if they have an interest in any >families >in the area, and would be interested in contributing details of their >families or hearing from me if I come across them in my research. > >First outing will be to the Field Days up there on 28th and 29th April, >where I will be set up for people to give me details as well. So if you are >there, call by. > >Cheers > >Linda Barraclough >Briagolong >List Owner: AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >email: kapana@netspace.net.au >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Lesley - and Linda, > >1. How would I find out if these graves still exist - short of taking a > >pilgrimage to see.(Not possible at the moment) > > I believe there are semi-published (if there is such a thing) lists of > headstones at Walhalla, and possibly burials. Can anyone help?? If there is > a known headstone, could someone repy to the list, as someone else going > there in the near future may volunteer to check it. I have the Walhalla Cemetery (Headstone) Transcriptions, which I've just checked. There's nothing for MARSH and the only ROGERS recorded is a Kate ROGERS who died in 1901 aged 61 years. > >3. There was an enquiry in to Charles MARSH's death on the following day. > >Would these records still exist, and if so - where? > > Inquest records are available through the Public Record Office of Victoria, > but I THINK they are in the throes of moving them. Does anyone know??? The majority of records are still at Laverton, but are available for inspection (with a couple of days' notice) at Casseldon Place in the city. I will be doing some research there next week and could try to access and organise a copy of the inquest for you, Lesley. Cheers, Victoria. ************************************************************ Victoria Dunlop Richmond, Victoria, Australia E-mail: victoriad@ozemail.com.au Dead Dunny Website: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~victoriad/ ************************************************************

Thank-you Graeme, Matthew and Linda for your very useful advice. I have somewhere to enquire, now. I meant to tell you that I live in Bassendean, Western Australia, and have the care of my two very dear, frail-aged parents. Our city library and genealogy society carry only limited information on Victoria, although I believe there is a Study Group for Victoria at WAGS. All help is greatly appreciated.I will let you know of any progress. Lesley