Thanks ever so much Eric Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tetlow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. > Public Records Office of Victoria. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lorraine Bower <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. > > >> Hi Shirley. >> Thanks for that. >> Just one thing I'm not sure of .... what is the PRO. >> Lorraine Bower >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shirley Westaway" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. >> >> >> > Try the PRO first, Lorraine. >> > >> > >> > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >> > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve >> > months, go to: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/ >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >> Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other > lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > This list is dedicated to matters Gippslandish - for non-Gippsland > enquires, consider subscribing to AUS-VIC > >

Hi Jan, I was just a tad confused re the details Graeme had listed re the parents of Clara SAUNDERS I have been unable to pin down a Thomas SAUNDERS with an Elizabeth KNOWN, so any assistance is welcome. The only Thomas SAUNDERS I have been able to find married Mary Boucher. I guess what I am really after is how Graeme came by Clara being born to Isabella CLARKSON & James McGOWAN and that Isabella had 5 spouses. Are you able to shed any light on how he came be these details. Many thanks Lorraine Bower ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Joseph Samuel Varney for Graeme Ford. > Hi, > I too have Joseph & Clara as GGGGrand Parents and have quite a bit of info > on them what were you looking for > Regards > Jan Parker > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorraine Bower" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:40 PM > Subject: [AVG] Joseph Samuel Varney for Graeme Ford. > > >> Hi, >> I have just read your posting dated 14th May 2004. >> I'm trying to fit what you have it together with Clara's death >> certificate. >> The certificate is dated 6th May 1872 & claims she was 58 years of age. >> That she was born in Parramatta & her parents were Thomas & Elizabeth >> SAUNDERS.. >> That her spouse was Joseph VARNEY & they had been in Victoria for 27 >> years. >> There are 12 children listed on the certificate. >> One of these is Harriet, she is listed as being 21 years of age when he >> mother died. >> >> Regards >> Lorraine Bower. >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== >> To search posts to the list, even back to 1999, go to >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> and, when asked, enter the list name as AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the AVG home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ and from there to Surnames for > further details. > >

Public Records Office of Victoria. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorraine Bower <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. > Hi Shirley. > Thanks for that. > Just one thing I'm not sure of .... what is the PRO. > Lorraine Bower > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Westaway" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. > > > > Try the PRO first, Lorraine. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve > > months, go to: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/ > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. >

Hi, I too have Joseph & Clara as GGGGrand Parents and have quite a bit of info on them what were you looking for Regards Jan Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Bower" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:40 PM Subject: [AVG] Joseph Samuel Varney for Graeme Ford. > Hi, > I have just read your posting dated 14th May 2004. > I'm trying to fit what you have it together with Clara's death > certificate. > The certificate is dated 6th May 1872 & claims she was 58 years of age. > That she was born in Parramatta & her parents were Thomas & Elizabeth > SAUNDERS.. > That her spouse was Joseph VARNEY & they had been in Victoria for 27 > years. > There are 12 children listed on the certificate. > One of these is Harriet, she is listed as being 21 years of age when he > mother died. > > Regards > Lorraine Bower. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > To search posts to the list, even back to 1999, go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and, when asked, enter the list name as AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND >

Hi, I have just read your posting dated 14th May 2004. I'm trying to fit what you have it together with Clara's death certificate. The certificate is dated 6th May 1872 & claims she was 58 years of age. That she was born in Parramatta & her parents were Thomas & Elizabeth SAUNDERS.. That her spouse was Joseph VARNEY & they had been in Victoria for 27 years. There are 12 children listed on the certificate. One of these is Harriet, she is listed as being 21 years of age when he mother died. Regards Lorraine Bower.

Hi Everyone, Peter Lakeman has been beavering away again, and has transcribed details from two pay books for Brickies and Builders Labourers at the Yallourn Power station. There is just under a hundred of them named. So if you suspect you may have family (they are all males) that were engaged in building those huge towers - do drop over and have a look at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/Resources/YPS-Brickies.html Then, if you would like to go a little further, there is a reproduction from one of the books at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/Resources/YPS-Brickies2.html These books are in private hands, so this is a wonderful opportunity to obtain details not normally available. Rates of pay and dates of employment are included, and often other details. Thanks Peter - I know there was hours of work in this. Linda

Hi Shirley. Thanks for that. Just one thing I'm not sure of .... what is the PRO. Lorraine Bower ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Westaway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] New & posting interests. > Try the PRO first, Lorraine. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve > months, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/ > >

Try the PRO first, Lorraine.

HI all, I am a new person to the list. My g x 2 grandparents were Joseph Samuel VARNEY & Clara SAUNDERS of Tarraville. My great grandparents were Jesse HASTHORPE & Esther VARNEY (daughter of Joseph & Clara) of Moe / Tangil area. I am excitedly awaiting the arrival of the copy of Joseph Samuel VARNEY ticket of leave, which he received in 1825. Is there any way of finding out the addresses of families from the 1800's in Tarraville. I feel inclined to make a trip down to have a look see but need to know where to look before I go. Regards Lorraine Bower in Melbourne.

Does someone have access to Probate Index (microfiche)? The PRO says that some local libraries and genealogical centres may have it. Once I have the series and record numbers from the index, I can request issue of the record. The record is for: John WILLIAMS d. 6 May 1901 at Warragul and Ellen WILLIAMS d. 9 Jan 1918 at Benevolent Asylum, Castlemaine Thanks heaps -- Best regards, Julie Love (WILLIAMS) from hot and humid Cairns mailto:[email protected]

Hi all, I posted a list about a year ago, just posting another one, just in case there are new people and also I have found a few more family relations. All these names at one time or another have spent time in Sala, Maffra, Stratford area. Barker, Barton, Boyce, Boyle, Driscoll, Dunsmuir, Gook, Hardy, Hunter, Kenny, Mancer, Mcleod, Morris, Myors, Orchard, Redwood, Robertson, Sedgwick, Swain, Swan, Williams. The first of the family moved to gippsland area in 1850-1860 and are still there today. Thanks in advance Michael Grocott. -- Michael [email protected]

Hi List The Lakes Entrance Family History Resource Centre has organised a bus trip to Melbourne for people to do research, shopping or sight seeing etc. We are going on the 26th Feb 2005 leaving Lakes Entrance at 5.30am, picking up in Bairnsdale at 6.00am and also further towards Melbourne if the need arises. We will hopefully be at the State Library by 10 - 10.30am and will be leaving the State Library by 5.30pm, stopping at Pakenham for a dinner break. Morning tea will be provided. If you are interested or have any questions please contact Nardia [email protected] Thanks Nardia

Sorry Carl deleted your address by mistake. Thanks for the reply, I'll try to get hold of a copy. I have Mathew/Matthew's in my tree. ALEXANDER ENGLISH MATTHEW, married CLARA KATHERINE MILLIGAN 1925 in Victoria, Australia, daughter of CHARLES MILLIGAN and ETHEL MANNIX. She was born 08 September 1908 in Walhalla, Victoria, Australia, and died 1938 in Wonthaggi Children i. BLUEY MATHEWS. ii. RAYMOND MATHEWS. iii. HAROLD RONALD MATTHEW, b. Abt. 1929, Victoria, Australia; d. 1979, Warragul, Victoria, Australia. iv. BARRY MATHEWS. v. WILLIAM MATTHEWS, b. 1933, Victoria, Australia; d. 1934, Wonthaggi, Victoria, Australia. Regards, Kaye > >Have you tried: Settler & Sawmillers. A history of West Gippsland tramways >and the industries they served. 1875-1934. Mike McCARTHY >Light Railway Research Society of Aust Inc. Melbourne 1993. >ISBN 0 909340 30 7 > >Carl MATTHEWS ______________________________

Anyone with connections to this family? I have the Milligan side of the tree but nothing more on the Matthew side. Wanting to exchange information Regards, Kaye ALEXANDER ENGLISH MATTHEW, married CLARA KATHERINE MILLIGAN 1925 in Victoria, Australia, daughter of CHARLES MILLIGAN and ETHEL MANNIX. She was born 08 September 1908 in Walhalla,and died 1938 in Wonthaggi Children i. BLUEY MATHEWS. ii. RAYMOND MATHEWS. iii. HAROLD RONALD MATTHEW, b. Abt. 1929, Victoria, Australia; d. 1979, Warragul, Victoria, Australia. iv. BARRY MATHEWS. v. WILLIAM MATTHEWS, b. 1933, Victoria, Australia; d. 1934, Wonthaggi, Victoria, Australia.

Some listers may wonder why the Walhalla Anglican Church was moved to Childers, while the rectory was moved to Thorpdale. Thorpdale already had an Anglican Church (St Marks), which had been moved there about 18 years earlier (in 1898) from Thorpdale South (aka "Old" Thorpdale, aka Narracan West) - a distance of about 3 km. Jim Tilgner in "Thorpdale Narracan Childers Centenary), page 16, relates: "The billiard room of Mahoney's Hotel had been bought by the Thorpdale Anglicans, and so it was that Billy Mills and Jack Robinson hitched their teams of bullocks (18 to a team) to haul the building to its new site, to serve men in a nobler way. What a sight it must have been, thirty-six bullocks straining, a bullocky on each side in a procession down the Thorpdale South hill." Walter Savige ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Napier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: [AVG] Childers Church > For anyone interested, I'm posting the information I've been able to > ascertain about the derelict church at Childers. > > Walhalla originally had a St John's Anglican Church (c1870s), a rectory > (located quite some distance away from the church) and a Sunday school > hall (location unknown, but presumably close to the church?). During the > declining years of Walhalla (c1916-17), the Bishop of Gippsland, Bishop > Cranswick, visited the town and decided to relocate the buildings > elsewhere. The church went to Wonthaggi and was only demolished c1990s to > make way for a new church down there. The rectory went to Thorpdale and > it apparently still exists today, but as a private house. The Sunday > school hall was relocated to Childers circa April 1917 and converted into > St Stephen's church. This was on land next to the Childers Mechanic's > Hall. It was officially opened on 29th April 1917 with the Bishop of > Gippsland and Rev H Watson conducting the dedication service. During the > service, 5 children were baptised. It was used up until November 15th > 1953 when there was a congregation of 11 at the final se! > rvice. > > Subsequently, the few remaining parishioners in Walhalla kicked up a fuss > now that they were without any Anglican Church at all. To appease them, > the Bishop had constructed for them the [smaller] St John's Church that > exists there today. > > Anne Napier > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the AVG home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ and from there to Surnames for > further details. >

Hi! I am researching the Hazlett family from the Stratford / Briagalong area. Other names are Wright, Reeves, Kelly, Stephens (Kooweerup), Christie (Kooweerup & Melbourne) and Woods (Essendon). Edward Hazlett and family arrived at the Stratfieldsaye Estate in 1848 before living in Stratford. He disappeared sometime after 1852, leaving his family behind. Are there any connections out there? Jan Woods

Re derelict church at childers:- In the book "Land of our Fathers" by A.E. Clark there is a mention of a Church of England church -- St Stephen licenced on 29th April 1917. Walter Savige wrote: > > Anne, On reading P 125 of Land of our Fathers by A.E. Clark I believe that the old church of England from Walhalla was moved to another site and a smaller church built on the original site. The date of removal is not stated, but it says"The vicarage was taken at about the same time, and I believe moved to Thorpdale. A smaller church was built on the original site at Walhalla and opened on 16th March 1919." (Thorpdale and Childers are only about 4 miles apart) Hope this hekps. LOna > > Further to my previous message, John Adams in "So Tall the Trees" > (Trafalgar, 1978), page 194 states: '"The Anglican Church at Childers was > closed in 1953, but the Methodist Church still boasts a strong > congregation." > > It seems likely that the fantastic photo is of the Anglican Church - > possibly erected at some time after the bushfire of January 1898 that > enveloped Childers and Thorpdale South. > dear ann > Walter Savige > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Napier" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:04 AM > Subject: [AVG] Derelict church, Childers > > > Hello Everyone > > > > > > > >

Thanks Linda, I'm running off to softball thismorning (and in fact all day) with my daughter, but when I get a chance I'll have a look at the catalogue. The most convenient scenario would be that it is available for inter library loan, but it sounds like the kind of book a library would want to keep under close eye and understandably so. If it is only available in the reference section I could just add the library to the list of places to visit- you know when I finally get down there <vbg> Thank you again, Regards, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Gell Family > At 11:01 AM 11/02/05 +1100, Liz wrote: > <snip> > >I will certainly write to John as it would be nice to visit the property, > >when I finally get down there. > >The books you mention both appear on the Wellington Shire Council website, > >under Library Services for Glenmaggie. I presume that means that they hold > >copies. > > It is actually interesting to see it in the Mitchell - the Wellington > bibliography was commissioned from the Centre for Gippsland studies to list > all books on the shire - and there are holes in the collection which mean > some listed there are not in the library holdings. > > I did actually see Pioneer Child at Maffra the other day in a lot of books > being considered for the local collection, and the comment was made that > "we don't have a copy of that" - I don't know if that means Maffra or > Wellington in general. In the case of the Maffra one, it is will go in the > secure local reference collection, and as such is unlikely to be available > for inter-library loan. > > I did try to get the library catalogue/WebPac running this morning, but it > seems a bit slow. > > It is at http://www.wellington.vic.gov.au/Page/page.asp?Page_Id=194&h=1 I > think (couldn't get it to come up to confirm). If it has a REF in the call > number, it is a not for loan copy, and may not be available for > inter-library loan. > > This goes for any other books that Wellington has as well - eg you might > find a copy of Church of Our Fathers there for inter-library loan. > > Cheers > > Linda > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > In general, the more information you post about a family, the more information you will get back - you need at least to say where in Gippsland the family came from, and give an idea of dates. >

Sorry, I now have word it was seen about 16 years ago, 'thru the window at the school'. Still on the lookout for the original honour board of the Moondarra State School contact Kaye or a member of the MGFHS http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mgfhs/ >Jan could have been correct in assuming it was >destroyed in the 1939 bushfires?

At 11:01 AM 11/02/05 +1100, Liz wrote: <snip> >I will certainly write to John as it would be nice to visit the property, >when I finally get down there. >The books you mention both appear on the Wellington Shire Council website, >under Library Services for Glenmaggie. I presume that means that they hold >copies. It is actually interesting to see it in the Mitchell - the Wellington bibliography was commissioned from the Centre for Gippsland studies to list all books on the shire - and there are holes in the collection which mean some listed there are not in the library holdings. I did actually see Pioneer Child at Maffra the other day in a lot of books being considered for the local collection, and the comment was made that "we don't have a copy of that" - I don't know if that means Maffra or Wellington in general. In the case of the Maffra one, it is will go in the secure local reference collection, and as such is unlikely to be available for inter-library loan. I did try to get the library catalogue/WebPac running this morning, but it seems a bit slow. It is at http://www.wellington.vic.gov.au/Page/page.asp?Page_Id=194&h=1 I think (couldn't get it to come up to confirm). If it has a REF in the call number, it is a not for loan copy, and may not be available for inter-library loan. This goes for any other books that Wellington has as well - eg you might find a copy of Church of Our Fathers there for inter-library loan. Cheers Linda