Just an oddball thought. Something that has happened more than once in the past - the negative being reversed during the printing process? Several people have said it looks like Wonthaggi (?) but the railway line is on the wrong side. If the neg has been reversed that would produce that effect. the older of the tworobbos
Hi, Being a born & bred steel town girl, your reference to the Hunter Valley and Newcastle made me have another look, thinking maybe Mimni. It's not hilly enough for Mimni and the ground around the rail line and skips doesn't seem dirty enough for it to be a coal mining settlement. My memory of the area around the end of the coal line at Newcastle harbour in the 1950's is of jet black ground and black sheds. Everything was covered in coal and/or coal dust. Lorraine Bower. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Can you identify this town??? > Hi Lesley and Others, > > It is a nice thought. bit not, it is not. :( > > The Glenmaggie works were well-documented by the photographer HB Hammond, > and the housing pictures I have seen were nothing like this - they were > much less permanent and unplanned, and the majority of the workers lived > in tents. And they were nothing like the size of this town. > > It is getting to the stage where, since this is open-cut coal mining (we > think, from the steam scoop and excavations in the background) that it may > be up on the Hunter River near Newcastle. I have got one town up there > that is being considered as an option. > > I have also had a Wonthaggi suggestion - but i don't think it is that, as > that was underground mining. > > All suggestions still welcome. :) > > Linda > > At 07:24 PM 30/04/05 +1000, you wrote: >>Hi Linda >>I keep going back and looking at that photo. It just looks so familiar to >>me >> >> >>Is it possibly not an open cut but the building of the main Southern >>channel >>from Lake Glenmaggie that runs round Blores Hill . > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other > lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. > >
I thought Wonthaggi also but the hills seem to be in the wrong place and the railway line rises behind the street and Wonthaggi railway line is flat at that point of the town. There are areas in the Hunter Valley that could fit though so you may be right Linda. Of course their is a very direct link between Wonthaggi and Newcastle re history. Wonthaggi might not have been there if it were not for the 23 miners strikes in Newcastle in 1909. Wonthaggi celebrates its centenary in 4 years time. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Can you identify this town??? > Hi Lesley and Others, > > It is a nice thought. bit not, it is not. :( > > The Glenmaggie works were well-documented by the photographer HB Hammond, > and the housing pictures I have seen were nothing like this - they were > much less permanent and unplanned, and the majority of the workers lived in > tents. And they were nothing like the size of this town. > > It is getting to the stage where, since this is open-cut coal mining (we > think, from the steam scoop and excavations in the background) that it may > be up on the Hunter River near Newcastle. I have got one town up there that > is being considered as an option. > > I have also had a Wonthaggi suggestion - but i don't think it is that, as > that was underground mining. > > All suggestions still welcome. :) > > Linda > > At 07:24 PM 30/04/05 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi Linda > >I keep going back and looking at that photo. It just looks so familiar to me > > > > > >Is it possibly not an open cut but the building of the main Southern channel > >from Lake Glenmaggie that runs round Blores Hill . > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. >
Hi Lesley and Others, It is a nice thought. bit not, it is not. :( The Glenmaggie works were well-documented by the photographer HB Hammond, and the housing pictures I have seen were nothing like this - they were much less permanent and unplanned, and the majority of the workers lived in tents. And they were nothing like the size of this town. It is getting to the stage where, since this is open-cut coal mining (we think, from the steam scoop and excavations in the background) that it may be up on the Hunter River near Newcastle. I have got one town up there that is being considered as an option. I have also had a Wonthaggi suggestion - but i don't think it is that, as that was underground mining. All suggestions still welcome. :) Linda At 07:24 PM 30/04/05 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Linda >I keep going back and looking at that photo. It just looks so familiar to me > > >Is it possibly not an open cut but the building of the main Southern channel >from Lake Glenmaggie that runs round Blores Hill .
Hi Linda I keep going back and looking at that photo. It just looks so familiar to me Is it possibly not an open cut but the building of the main Southern channel from Lake Glenmaggie that runs round Blores Hill . I can remember my Mum talking of how that was built by horse pulled machinery etc. It passed through the property where I grew up, west of Tinamba, and the section I am thinking of is all built of concrete sections. A massive undertaking I would think which would require a lot more excavation than a channel constructed of earth as it is in other parts. The railway line is in the right place. I still think it looks like the view of Mount Erica that I was familiar with, (however I moved away in 1979, so my memory is very possibly wrong) I can't explain the lack of hills in between but the photo is not a clear one. My Mum worked as a secretary for the State Rivers in Heyfield in the early to mid 1950's. She told of many displaced Europeans who worked on the projects around there after WW2. Her boss was Hughie Caffrey. Is this possible? What do you think?????? Lesley
My first instinctive answer to the mystery photo was Tarra Valley region. I have seen several photos that appear similar to this one from that region. Margaret
Linda Re your earlier unidentified photo of the mining settlement. Have you tried asking someone like Jack Vines? I looked up some info on the Gelliondale mine, but nothing there ties in with your photo, and the background topography is not right either. Just trying to think outside the square! Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: [AVG] Another unidentified photo > Hi Everyone, . . . . . . . . . . . The other one remains unidentified - my Yallourn expert is adamant that it > is not there - and we are sure it is the start of a close open cut in the > background. > > Any suggestions welcome > > Cheers > > Linda
Hello Linda It could be up around Carrajung, or just about anywhere in the Strzeleckis for that matter. Looks as though they've had a bushfire go through the area, too. Regards Anne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: [AVG] Another unidentified photo > Hi Everyone, > > Yesterday i acquired a postcard that I thought was Sunnyside, or less > possibly Glen Wills . . . . . . .
Hi Everyone, Yesterday i acquired a postcard that I thought was Sunnyside, or less possibly Glen Wills. The resident expert on Sunnyside has looked at it, and doesn't think it is. And she is probably right - apart from everything else, there is too much clearing in the background. So I am starting to consider places like Aberfeldy and Matlock. It has nothing on the back to help, apart from the dealer having written "Gipps" on the back in pencil - and he wasn't around to say why, not would he probably remember one card in his thousands. So there is a picture at http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/04/another-unidentified-photo.html and a link there to a larger one. If anyone knows the photo, I would appreciate knowing where it is. The other one remains unidentified - my Yallourn expert is adamant that it is not there - and we are sure it is the start of a close open cut in the background. Any suggestions welcome Cheers Linda
Dear Linda, Thanks for the great work you do in keeping us all in touch with whats going on out there. I would like to ask people on the site, if they have any information on ABERFELDY please. We are trying to gather information on any deaths and burials at the Aberfeldy cemetery for future reference, if thats possible please. So if anyone can assist with names, dates, incidents etc, this would be appreciated greatly. kind regards. Rae-Anne.
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Hello Di, I disagree that the picture on Linda's blogsite is of Yallourn. The first street in Yallourn was Maiden St and it was at the bottom of the Reservoir Hill. On Linda's picture there is no indication of that large hill. Ignoring the absence of the hill, one would have to be looking north to get the same perspective of Maiden street, but then the railway line should be on the right of the houses and the excavation in the background is far to close to the town to be the start of the open cut (which was at least a mile away at its closest point). In Prue's book the picture is taken with the railway in the foreground and looking South West over the Railway Ave-Eastern Ave intersection. Therefore it cannot be Mt Erica in the background because that is to the north. In my opinion, Linda's picture is not of Yallourn. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >My husband Robert is almost certain that it is Yallourn >We have compared your photo with one on page 43 in the book "Yallourn >Was" by Prue McGoldrick >The railway line in the left foreground went to Hernes Oak >It is definitely Mt Erica in the background >I will be interested in other responses to your question >Di Christensen >Melbourne
Today's Melbourne Age has an obituary on page 17 for Margaret Alison STONE nee TISDALL, 11.3.1911 to 5.4.2005. Stone was the daughter of Herbert TISDALL, a civil engineer, niece of Constance TISDALL and therefore grand-daughter of Henry TISDALL, head teacher of the Walhalla State School. Other famous teachers in the family included her great-aunt, Clara Weeks, who opened the state school at Glenmaggie (after sending down from Walhalla for a horse, so she could get there), who went on to be the most senior female teacher in Victoria. Margaret Stone was a trained nurse, and enlisted in the Australian Women's Army Nursing Service in World War II. She had a distinguished careeer in the service, and in nursing afterwards. I am clipping out my copy of the obituary, filing it inside "Forerunners", by Constance Tisdall, which documents the family. Linda
My husband Robert is almost certain that it is Yallourn We have compared your photo with one on page 43 in the book "Yallourn Was" by Prue McGoldrick The railway line in the left foreground went to Hernes Oak It is definitely Mt Erica in the background I will be interested in other responses to your question Di Christensen Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Can you identify this town??? > Hi Everyone, > > I have been asked for help in identifying a photograph of a town, believed > to be in Gippsland. Given the collection that it came from, it is believed > to be at least pre 1960, and shows industrial works with a large number of > nearby houses on either side of a street. > > Hopefully you can see the picture at > > http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/04/can-you-identify-this-town.html > > and there is a link there where you can access a much larger copy. > > Any suggestions would be welcome, as it has a few of us baffled. > > Thanks! > > Linda > > ______________________________
Hi Linda, I can not identify the "town", but where did the railway lines go? There looks to be a water tank for filling engines on the left side, and empty "wagons" on the other side of the building? Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [AVG] Can you identify this town??? > Hi Lesley, > > I feel like I am grudgingly handing out clues, but it isn't like that, > really. > > The land behind appears to be flat redgum plains, with a small slope in > the middle distance, and then that mountain/hill. I think it is too close > for Mount Erica, without enough hills in between. > > Also, I cannot see any sign of a motor vehicle of any sort, and quite a > few horses in the yard and one or two hitched to a dray. So it is even > possibly earlier than I first thought. > > Linda > > At 09:09 AM 24/04/05 +1000, you wrote: >> >> I can't stop looking at the shape of the mountain behind. Is it the >> shape >>of Mount Erica??? Then which direction for that view??? >> >>Lesley > > ______________________________
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Hi Lesley, I feel like I am grudgingly handing out clues, but it isn't like that, really. The land behind appears to be flat redgum plains, with a small slope in the middle distance, and then that mountain/hill. I think it is too close for Mount Erica, without enough hills in between. Also, I cannot see any sign of a motor vehicle of any sort, and quite a few horses in the yard and one or two hitched to a dray. So it is even possibly earlier than I first thought. Linda At 09:09 AM 24/04/05 +1000, you wrote: > > I can't stop looking at the shape of the mountain behind. Is it the shape >of Mount Erica??? Then which direction for that view??? > >Lesley
I can't stop looking at the shape of the mountain behind. Is it the shape of Mount Erica??? Then which direction for that view??? Lesley
Good start - it is not Glenmaggie, talking of dams. The houses on the lest look like "houses' of the sort at mills at the time - for families. The ones on the right appear a little more like single quarters. But they do appear more "permanent" than transitory. There are three water tanks in the distance - I wonder were they at a railway station??? Any other thoughts, anyone??? Linda At 08:11 PM 23/04/05 +1000, you wrote: > I think it is some sort of works camp with huts rather than houses. A >lot of large concrete pipes in picture. Could it be a dam construction site. >Steam shovel loading skips, must be pre WW2. Maybe excavating material for a >dam wall. > >Eric.
I think it is some sort of works camp with huts rather than houses. A lot of large concrete pipes in picture. Could it be a dam construction site. Steam shovel loading skips, must be pre WW2. Maybe excavating material for a dam wall. Eric. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Barraclough <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: [AVG] Can you identify this town??? > Hi Everyone, > > I have been asked for help in identifying a photograph of a town, believed > to be in Gippsland. Given the collection that it came from, it is believed > to be at least pre 1960, and shows industrial works with a large number of > nearby houses on either side of a street. > > Hopefully you can see the picture at > > http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/04/can-you-identify-this-town.html > > and there is a link there where you can access a much larger copy. > > Any suggestions would be welcome, as it has a few of us baffled. > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > In general, the more information you post about a family, the more information you will get back - you need at least to say where in Gippsland the family came from, and give an idea of dates. >