This is out of hand. We all have a personal opinion lets keep it that way, this is the wrong forum. I see this as a great hobby where I can engross myself in family history and I will do what I can, where I can and when I can about our wonderful bush. Enough is enough Heather Coleman -----Original Message----- From: Goldstraw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 4:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [S] Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History And long before it was a "cow paddock" it was NATURAL BUSH and ALPINE MEADOWS grazed only by native animals which did not damage the sphagnum moss and grasses like the cloven hooves of cattle........ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tetlow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History > Much has been said in the press about National Parks not being "Cow > Paddocks". They seem to forget it was a "Cow Paddock" long before being a > National Park. If they want to do something about preserving the > wilderness > get the ski tows off the mountains. > > Eric Tetlow. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl MATTHEWS <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our > High > Countries History > > >> Well Kerry, I for one support the removal of cattle from the Alpine > National >> Park. Cheers Bracksie. >> >> Carl MATTHEWS >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerry Bennett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:03 PM >> Subject: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High >> Countries History >> >> >> > >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries >> > History >> > >> > CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES >> > >> > The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush >> > gear >> to >> > support the rally. >> > They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land > user >> > groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one >> > interested in public lands issues. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Graeme Stoney >> > >> > The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC >> > Member for Central Highlands Province >> > Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry >> > Upper House Opposition Whip >> > Ph: 5775 1929 >> > Fx: 5775 2923 >> > >> > >> > >> > 31 May 2005 >> > >> > ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY >> > >> > CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL >> > >> > The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated > country >> > groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of >> > Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice >> > against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the >> Olympic >> > Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at > Parliament >> > House at 11.30am. >> > >> > Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove > cattlemen >> > from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of >> > history. >> > This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a >> > legitimate activity in the national park. >> > >> > "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris > Stoney, >> a >> > third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group >> > representing the cattlemen. >> > >> > "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find >> > that >> it >> > had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by >> > ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, >> and >> > has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr >> > Stoney >> > said. >> > >> > "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to >> > affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the > speculated >> > $100,000 the government would have us believe. >> > >> > "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a > costly >> > PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow >> > promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply > not >> > the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests >> > is > a >> > practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly >> > adjacent >> to >> > National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. >> > >> > "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant > attitude >> > towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. >> > >> > Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, > which >> > will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity > supporters. >> > The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to >> > attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the >> > Country Voice campaign. >> > >> > "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a > special >> > place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," > Mr >> > Burlinson said. >> > >> > Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing >> their >> > opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud > rural >> > heritage. >> > >> > "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this > Government >> > does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin > end >> > of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. >> > >> > "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government > to >> > pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." >> > >> > ends >> > >> > Contacts: >> > Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris >> Stoney >> > (direct), 0417 503 528 >> > >> > >> > Source: Cattlemen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" >> > >> > >> > **************************************************************************** >> > ** >> > This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you > receive >> > this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may > contain >> > information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. 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And long before it was a "cow paddock" it was NATURAL BUSH and ALPINE MEADOWS grazed only by native animals which did not damage the sphagnum moss and grasses like the cloven hooves of cattle........ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tetlow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History > Much has been said in the press about National Parks not being "Cow > Paddocks". They seem to forget it was a "Cow Paddock" long before being a > National Park. If they want to do something about preserving the > wilderness > get the ski tows off the mountains. > > Eric Tetlow. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl MATTHEWS <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our > High > Countries History > > >> Well Kerry, I for one support the removal of cattle from the Alpine > National >> Park. Cheers Bracksie. >> >> Carl MATTHEWS >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerry Bennett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:03 PM >> Subject: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High >> Countries History >> >> >> > >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries >> > History >> > >> > CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES >> > >> > The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush >> > gear >> to >> > support the rally. >> > They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land > user >> > groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one >> > interested in public lands issues. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Graeme Stoney >> > >> > The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC >> > Member for Central Highlands Province >> > Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry >> > Upper House Opposition Whip >> > Ph: 5775 1929 >> > Fx: 5775 2923 >> > >> > >> > >> > 31 May 2005 >> > >> > ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY >> > >> > CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL >> > >> > The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated > country >> > groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of >> > Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice >> > against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the >> Olympic >> > Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at > Parliament >> > House at 11.30am. >> > >> > Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove > cattlemen >> > from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of >> > history. >> > This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a >> > legitimate activity in the national park. >> > >> > "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris > Stoney, >> a >> > third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group >> > representing the cattlemen. >> > >> > "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find >> > that >> it >> > had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by >> > ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, >> and >> > has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr >> > Stoney >> > said. >> > >> > "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to >> > affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the > speculated >> > $100,000 the government would have us believe. >> > >> > "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a > costly >> > PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow >> > promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply > not >> > the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests >> > is > a >> > practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly >> > adjacent >> to >> > National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. >> > >> > "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant > attitude >> > towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. >> > >> > Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, > which >> > will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity > supporters. >> > The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to >> > attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the >> > Country Voice campaign. >> > >> > "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a > special >> > place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," > Mr >> > Burlinson said. >> > >> > Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing >> their >> > opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud > rural >> > heritage. >> > >> > "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this > Government >> > does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin > end >> > of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. >> > >> > "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government > to >> > pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." >> > >> > ends >> > >> > Contacts: >> > Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris >> Stoney >> > (direct), 0417 503 528 >> > >> > >> > Source: Cattlemen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" >> > >> > >> > **************************************************************************** >> > ** >> > This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you > receive >> > this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may > contain >> > information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Much has been said in the press about National Parks not being "Cow Paddocks". They seem to forget it was a "Cow Paddock" long before being a National Park. If they want to do something about preserving the wilderness get the ski tows off the mountains. Eric Tetlow. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl MATTHEWS <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History > Well Kerry, I for one support the removal of cattle from the Alpine National > Park. Cheers Bracksie. > > Carl MATTHEWS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Bennett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:03 PM > Subject: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High > Countries History > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries > > History > > > > CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES > > > > The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush gear > to > > support the rally. > > They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land user > > groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one > > interested in public lands issues. > > > > Regards > > > > Graeme Stoney > > > > The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC > > Member for Central Highlands Province > > Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry > > Upper House Opposition Whip > > Ph: 5775 1929 > > Fx: 5775 2923 > > > > > > > > 31 May 2005 > > > > ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY > > > > CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL > > > > The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated country > > groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of > > Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice > > against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the > Olympic > > Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at Parliament > > House at 11.30am. > > > > Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove cattlemen > > from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of history. > > This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a > > legitimate activity in the national park. > > > > "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris Stoney, > a > > third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group > > representing the cattlemen. > > > > "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find that > it > > had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by > > ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, > and > > has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr Stoney > > said. > > > > "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to > > affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the speculated > > $100,000 the government would have us believe. > > > > "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a costly > > PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow > > promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply not > > the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests is a > > practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly adjacent > to > > National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. > > > > "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant attitude > > towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. > > > > Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, which > > will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity supporters. > > The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to > > attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the > > Country Voice campaign. > > > > "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a special > > place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," Mr > > Burlinson said. > > > > Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing > their > > opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud rural > > heritage. > > > > "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this Government > > does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin end > > of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. > > > > "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government to > > pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." > > > > ends > > > > Contacts: > > Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris > Stoney > > (direct), 0417 503 528 > > > > > > Source: Cattlemen > > > > > > > > > > Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > ** > > This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive > > this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may contain > > information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Well Kerry, I for one support the removal of cattle from the Alpine National Park. Cheers Bracksie. Carl MATTHEWS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: [AVG] Fw: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries > History > > CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES > > The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush gear to > support the rally. > They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land user > groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one > interested in public lands issues. > > Regards > > Graeme Stoney > > The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC > Member for Central Highlands Province > Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry > Upper House Opposition Whip > Ph: 5775 1929 > Fx: 5775 2923 > > > > 31 May 2005 > > ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY > > CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL > > The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated country > groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of > Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice > against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the Olympic > Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at Parliament > House at 11.30am. > > Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove cattlemen > from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of history. > This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a > legitimate activity in the national park. > > "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris Stoney, a > third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group > representing the cattlemen. > > "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find that it > had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by > ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, and > has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr Stoney > said. > > "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to > affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the speculated > $100,000 the government would have us believe. > > "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a costly > PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow > promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply not > the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests is a > practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly adjacent to > National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. > > "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant attitude > towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. > > Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, which > will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity supporters. > The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to > attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the > Country Voice campaign. > > "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a special > place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," Mr > Burlinson said. > > Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing their > opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud rural > heritage. > > "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this Government > does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin end > of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. > > "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government to > pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." > > ends > > Contacts: > Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris Stoney > (direct), 0417 503 528 > > > Source: Cattlemen > > > > > Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen > > > > > > > * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" > > **************************************************************************** > ** > This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive > this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may contain > information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. You must not > use or disclose the contents of this email, or add the sender's email > address to any database, list or mailing list unless you are expressly > authorised to do so. > > The statements or views expressed in this email are those of the individual > sender and are not those of Australian Associated Press Pty Ltd (AAP). > These statements are not binding on AAP, except where the sender expressly > and with authority, states them to be. > > AAP is unable to review the contents of all the email on its system. To > the extent permitted by law, AAP disclaims all liability for any loss or > damage caused by the contents of this email. > **************************************************************************** > ** > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve months, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/ >

-------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush gear to support the rally. They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land user groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one interested in public lands issues. Regards Graeme Stoney The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC Member for Central Highlands Province Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry Upper House Opposition Whip Ph: 5775 1929 Fx: 5775 2923 31 May 2005 ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated country groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the Olympic Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at Parliament House at 11.30am. Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove cattlemen from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of history. This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a legitimate activity in the national park. "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris Stoney, a third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group representing the cattlemen. "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find that it had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, and has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr Stoney said. "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the speculated $100,000 the government would have us believe. "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a costly PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply not the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests is a practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly adjacent to National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant attitude towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, which will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity supporters. The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the Country Voice campaign. "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a special place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," Mr Burlinson said. Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing their opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud rural heritage. "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this Government does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin end of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government to pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." ends Contacts: Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris Stoney (direct), 0417 503 528 Source: Cattlemen Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" **************************************************************************** ** This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. You must not use or disclose the contents of this email, or add the sender's email address to any database, list or mailing list unless you are expressly authorised to do so. The statements or views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender and are not those of Australian Associated Press Pty Ltd (AAP). These statements are not binding on AAP, except where the sender expressly and with authority, states them to be. AAP is unable to review the contents of all the email on its system. To the extent permitted by law, AAP disclaims all liability for any loss or damage caused by the contents of this email. **************************************************************************** **

I recently acquired a copy of an inquest but being remote from Melbourne used the services of the GSV (Genealogical Society of Victoria). It cost me around $25 (I bought a few other things at the time) the older of the tworobbos

Hi David Detailed information on this can be found at www.prov.vic.gov.au. I have the Victorian Inquest Index 1840-1985. If you like I can look up and supply the numbers that you will require to obtain inquest papers from the Public Record Office Regards Vee DA & RR Hurst <[email protected]> wrote: Hello listers, Just curious if anyone has had experience in purchasing Victorian Inquests? I would like to purchase one and have no idea where to start. Any help would be really appreciated. Kindest regards, David Hurst DA & RR Hurst, Korumburra, Vic. Australia. "Such is Life" ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved. --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.

Only by going to the Public Records Office in North Melbourne David. If you are there early enough and order it in, you can get it the same day. The staff will lead you through - they are great. There is good parking too. I would love to live closer! Marg Queensland ----- Original Message ----- From: "DA & RR Hurst" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [AVG] Vic. Inquest's > Hello listers, > Just curious if anyone has had experience in purchasing Victorian > Inquests? I would like to purchase one and have no idea where to start. > Any help would be really appreciated. > Kindest regards, > David Hurst > > DA & RR Hurst, > Korumburra, Vic. Australia. > "Such is Life"

Here's another couple of births for MEYER Marg A in Queensland ========== Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : Meyer (581 matches) Event : b (926847 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : Henry (70680 matches) Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : Elena (53 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: MEYER Given Names: August Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Henry Frederic Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elena Jane MORGAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TOOM Death Place: Year: 1886 Reg Number: 22574 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: MEYER Given Names: Elvinia Ann Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Henry Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elena Jane MORGAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: TOOM Death Place: Year: 1887 Reg Number: 24492 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Langhorne & Meyer > Hi Anne and Others, > > From "Gippsland in Focus: A Directory of Photographers to 1950" by > Squires, Barraclough and Clother (Kapana Press, 1990) > > p.48 > > "LANGHORNE, Charles. An 1893 photograph has been sighted, placing this > photographer at Sale. An O. Langhorne has also been recorded as producing > postcards of an unknown quantity and date from Woods Point, which is in all > probability a reference to Charles Langhorne. In 1896 F.Meyer of the firm > of Langhorne and Meyer, photographers, won a competition for the design of > the band rotunda at Walhalla. In 1899 Langhorne is recorded as being a > photographer at Walhalla, although there is no corresponding record of > Meyer at the same place." > > The 1893 photo is inscribed "C.Langhorne, Photo Artist, Sale" > > Peter Synan's index to the Gippsland Times shows a John Herbert Langhorne > as a bank manager at Sale c.1885-1893, reports of leaving 14.8.1893, > 11.9.1893. It is not a common name in the indexes. (And I am a bit confused > to see a reference in the Sale Family History Group index to B,D&Ms in > local papers to a death of John Herbert Langhorne at Sale mentioned in the > Gippsland Mercury 2.9.1886, and the birth of a daughter to him at Sale in > the Gippsland Times of 17.1.1887) > > By coincidence, John H. Langhorne is listed as a bank manager at Walhalla > in Middleton and Manings Gippsland Directory 1884-5. > > p.62 > > "MEYER, F. A Member of the photographic firm of Lanhorne and Meyer, he won > the prize for the design of the band rotunda at Walhalla in 1896. He may > well have been the Fred. Meyer, artist, recorded as being at Geelong in > 1899, and it is interesting to speculate on any connection between him and > the Mr Meyer, photo framer of Warragul, who provided premises for Millist > [another photographer] in 1905". > > The following Births, Deaths and Marriages may help place them in > context/advise as to ages: > > I don't have the Pionner index, but am advised: > > MARRIAGE: > > MEYER, Heinrich Frederick C CM 675018 Marriage > Spouse: MORGAN, Elena Jane > Marriage Place: Woods Point > Reg Year: 1885 Reg State: Victoria > Ref Number: 5791 > > Births of children to Henry Frederick Christopher MEYER: > > (Possibly someone else could check 1885-1888?????? > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Emma Ctina > Event: D > Sex: F > Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fred Chrisr > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN > Age: 1 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Woods Pt > Year: 1890 > Reg. Number: 5309 > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Walt Hermann > Event: B > Sex: M > Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fred Christo > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: WOODS POINT > Death Place: > Year: 1892 > Reg. Number: 28551 > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Alf Emile Alexr > Event: B > Sex: M > Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredk Christ > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane Helena MORGAN > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: WOODS POINT > Death Place: > Year: 1890 > Reg. Number: 28835 > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Evelyn Doretta > Event: B > Sex: F > Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredk Christ > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: WOODSPOINT > Death Place: > Year: 1894 > Reg. Number: 16804 > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Emma Christina > Event: B > Sex: F > Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredric Chri > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellena Jane MORGAN > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: TOOMBON > Death Place: > Year: 1889 > Reg. Number: 8145 > > This would appear to be his death: > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Heinrich Fredric Christoph > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Meyer Heinrich Fredric Christoph > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Louisa SACHMANN > Age: 72 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Rmond [Richmond] > Year: 1918 > Reg. Number: 2993 > > This would appear to be the death of Meyer's wife: > > Surname: MEYER > Given Names: Eleanor Jane > Father: Morgan Unknown > Mother: Emily UNKNOWN > Death Place: RICH > Age: 84 > Age Code: > Year: 1954 > Reg Number: 2782 > Event: D > > This may be LANGHORNE > > Surname: LANGHORNE > Given Names: Chas > Father: Unknown > Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN > Death Place: WOODS P > Age: 70 > Age Code: > Year: 1924 > Reg Number: 16497 > Event: D > > > ANYONE else out there able to add any more clues for Anne????? Someone with > the Pioneer Index might sort out something for that Langhorne who dies at > Sale in 1886???? He doesn't appear to have a headstone in the Sale cemetery. > > Does anyone had headstone inscriptions for Woods Point????? > > Cheers > > Linda > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve months, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/ >

Hello listers, Just curious if anyone has had experience in purchasing Victorian Inquests? I would like to purchase one and have no idea where to start. Any help would be really appreciated. Kindest regards, David Hurst DA & RR Hurst, Korumburra, Vic. Australia. "Such is Life"

Hi Anne and Others, From "Gippsland in Focus: A Directory of Photographers to 1950" by Squires, Barraclough and Clother (Kapana Press, 1990) p.48 "LANGHORNE, Charles. An 1893 photograph has been sighted, placing this photographer at Sale. An O. Langhorne has also been recorded as producing postcards of an unknown quantity and date from Woods Point, which is in all probability a reference to Charles Langhorne. In 1896 F.Meyer of the firm of Langhorne and Meyer, photographers, won a competition for the design of the band rotunda at Walhalla. In 1899 Langhorne is recorded as being a photographer at Walhalla, although there is no corresponding record of Meyer at the same place." The 1893 photo is inscribed "C.Langhorne, Photo Artist, Sale" Peter Synan's index to the Gippsland Times shows a John Herbert Langhorne as a bank manager at Sale c.1885-1893, reports of leaving 14.8.1893, 11.9.1893. It is not a common name in the indexes. (And I am a bit confused to see a reference in the Sale Family History Group index to B,D&Ms in local papers to a death of John Herbert Langhorne at Sale mentioned in the Gippsland Mercury 2.9.1886, and the birth of a daughter to him at Sale in the Gippsland Times of 17.1.1887) By coincidence, John H. Langhorne is listed as a bank manager at Walhalla in Middleton and Manings Gippsland Directory 1884-5. p.62 "MEYER, F. A Member of the photographic firm of Lanhorne and Meyer, he won the prize for the design of the band rotunda at Walhalla in 1896. He may well have been the Fred. Meyer, artist, recorded as being at Geelong in 1899, and it is interesting to speculate on any connection between him and the Mr Meyer, photo framer of Warragul, who provided premises for Millist [another photographer] in 1905". The following Births, Deaths and Marriages may help place them in context/advise as to ages: I don't have the Pionner index, but am advised: MARRIAGE: MEYER, Heinrich Frederick C CM 675018 Marriage Spouse: MORGAN, Elena Jane Marriage Place: Woods Point Reg Year: 1885 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 5791 Births of children to Henry Frederick Christopher MEYER: (Possibly someone else could check 1885-1888?????? Surname: MEYER Given Names: Emma Ctina Event: D Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fred Chrisr Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN Age: 1 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Woods Pt Year: 1890 Reg. Number: 5309 Surname: MEYER Given Names: Walt Hermann Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fred Christo Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WOODS POINT Death Place: Year: 1892 Reg. Number: 28551 Surname: MEYER Given Names: Alf Emile Alexr Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredk Christ Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane Helena MORGAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WOODS POINT Death Place: Year: 1890 Reg. Number: 28835 Surname: MEYER Given Names: Evelyn Doretta Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredk Christ Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Jane MORGAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WOODSPOINT Death Place: Year: 1894 Reg. Number: 16804 Surname: MEYER Given Names: Emma Christina Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Fredric Chri Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellena Jane MORGAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: TOOMBON Death Place: Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 8145 This would appear to be his death: Surname: MEYER Given Names: Heinrich Fredric Christoph Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Meyer Heinrich Fredric Christoph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Louisa SACHMANN Age: 72 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Rmond [Richmond] Year: 1918 Reg. Number: 2993 This would appear to be the death of Meyer's wife: Surname: MEYER Given Names: Eleanor Jane Father: Morgan Unknown Mother: Emily UNKNOWN Death Place: RICH Age: 84 Age Code: Year: 1954 Reg Number: 2782 Event: D This may be LANGHORNE Surname: LANGHORNE Given Names: Chas Father: Unknown Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Death Place: WOODS P Age: 70 Age Code: Year: 1924 Reg Number: 16497 Event: D ANYONE else out there able to add any more clues for Anne????? Someone with the Pioneer Index might sort out something for that Langhorne who dies at Sale in 1886???? He doesn't appear to have a headstone in the Sale cemetery. Does anyone had headstone inscriptions for Woods Point????? Cheers Linda

It was Mr F Meyer who designed it and won a prize of three ponds and 3 shillings in 1896. Hope that this little bit helps. Kerry in Cranbourne -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 05/28/05 19:22:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [AVG] Langhorne & Meyer Hello listers Does anyone know anything of the photographic firm of Langhorne & Meyer? I understand that one of the partners, a Frederick Meyer, won the competition for the design of the Walhalla Mountaineers Brass Band Rotunda in 1896. Was this firm located in Walhalla, or elsewhere? Did Fredrick Meyer design other buildings, or was this a one-off? Any information much appreciated. Regards Anne Napier ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve months, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND/

Hello listers Does anyone know anything of the photographic firm of Langhorne & Meyer? I understand that one of the partners, a Frederick Meyer, won the competition for the design of the Walhalla Mountaineers Brass Band Rotunda in 1896. Was this firm located in Walhalla, or elsewhere? Did Fredrick Meyer design other buildings, or was this a one-off? Any information much appreciated. Regards Anne Napier

Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: HERBERT Given Names: Ivy Irene Father: Rogers Henry W Mother: Nora STOREN Death Place: CAUL Age: 78 Age Code: Year: 1972 Reg Number: 20743 Event: D Surname: HERBERT Given Names: Ivy Irene Father: Rogers Henry W Mother: Nora STOREN Death Place: CAUL Age: 78 Age Code: Year: 1972 Reg Number: 20743 Event: D Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Joy Irene Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WARRAGUL Death Place: Year: 1891 Reg. Number: 37988 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Louisa Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WARRAGUL Death Place: Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 17298 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Louisa Event: D Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: 6 Age Code: D Birth Place: Death Place: Warragul Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 10229 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Norah Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WARRAGUL Death Place: Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 17299 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Norah Event: D Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: 5 Age Code: D Birth Place: Death Place: Warragul Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 10230 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Olive Annie Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Henry William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: WARR Death Place: Year: 1893 Reg. Number: 27367 Surname: ROGERS Given Names: Olive Annie Event: D Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Hy Wm Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Norah STOREN Age: 6 Age Code: M Birth Place: Death Place: Wgul Year: 1894 Reg. Number: 4230 Hope these help Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Goldstraw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: ROGERS at WARRAGUL > > > Hi, > > Still trying to find info on Norah Storen who married Henry William > Rogers. Apparently they were married in Deniliquin. I can't find much > about them. They had some children born at Warragul but 3 died as babies. > One survived and married William Herbert. Her name was Ivy (Joy) Irene > Rogers. > > Can anyone help please. > > Cheers Chris (Warrnambool) > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the AVG home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ and from there to Surnames for > further details. ______________________________

Thanks Walter, They didn't have much luck with their children. Cheers Chris Subject: Re: [AVG] ROGERS at WARRAGUL > The Vic BDM indexes show another child Ruby Irene ROGERS born in 1887 at > Warragul. > The mother's name is shown (incorrectly?) as Nora STONE. > Ruby died in 1911 (aged 23) at Oakleigh (reg no 2674). > > Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:47 AM > Subject: [AVG] ROGERS at WARRAGUL > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other > lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics.

The Vic BDM indexes show another child Ruby Irene ROGERS born in 1887 at Warragul. The mother's name is shown (incorrectly?) as Nora STONE. Ruby died in 1911 (aged 23) at Oakleigh (reg no 2674). Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goldstraw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: [AVG] ROGERS at WARRAGUL

Mid Gippsland Family History Soc. has put its Newsletters online. MGFHS covers roughly the areas between Traralgon to Trafalgar, and Boolarra to Walhalla in Victoria. Australia http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mgfhs/nl.htm The newsletters are in acrobat format and a link to update your acrobat reader (free) is also on the page. Updating your acrobat reader will make loading the page faster. The 2005 Members Interest Directory is also available from this page. The Catalogue of holdings at MGFHS has also been updated. Regards, Kaye

> > > Hi, > > Still trying to find info on Norah Storen who married Henry William > Rogers. Apparently they were married in Deniliquin. I can't find much > about them. They had some children born at Warragul but 3 died as babies. > One survived and married William Herbert. Her name was Ivy (Joy) Irene > Rogers. > > Can anyone help please. > > Cheers Chris (Warrnambool) > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the AVG home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ and from there to Surnames for > further details.

Hi, Still trying to find info on Norah Storen who married Henry William Rogers. Apparently they were married in Deniliquin. I can't find much about them. They had some children born at Warragul but 3 died as babies. One survived and married William Herbert. Her name was Ivy (Joy) Irene Rogers. Can anyone help please. Cheers Chris (Warrnambool)

Hello Listers, Am looking for any one who has connections to the name McCoughtry. If you do, please email me at me address as listed below. Thanks Kerry in Cranbourne [email protected]