Hi List, Thank you to the listers who helped me with Mottle Range. It appears to be in the Buchan area of East Gippsland. Many thanks. Doug Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Trying Google, it brought up - http://buchan.gippsland.com/Attractions/Default.asp but no indication of why it is so named. :-( the older of the tworobbos

MOTTLE Range Road runs off the Buchan Road about 6 km south towards Bairnsdale and travels to the south east then south west direction eventually ending near Wairewa which is to the east of Nowa Nowa and north of the Prince's Hwy. Wairewa is about 17 km south of the start of the Mottle Range Rd. Tony Meade ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: [AVG] Mottled Range > I know nothing about Gippsland geography but have found a reference to > Mottled Range (? nr Maffra) at > > _http://www.dm3ds.com.au/maffranews/?id=6021_ > (http://www.dm3ds.com.au/maffranews/?id=6021) > > Dave > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb asks us to keep our signatures short to save bandwidth. Anything more than about five lines is getting a bit long. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 20/06/2005

There are copies in the Morwell Library in the Local History collection -----Original Message----- From: Dean Dessent [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 4:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Gippsland Heritage Journal Hello Linda, for the new people and people like myself who haven't been paying attention and are novices, the Gippsland Heritage Journal has been compiled from ?? and to save Terry some work, are there copies available somewhere? I thought I remember reading that there were some at the Maffra Library. There are quite a few items in the index that I am interested in and I don't want to put any extra load on Terry. Thanks Dean ps sorry if you have already answered this query -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 ______________________________

Hi List, I have found a reference to "Mottled Range" and ask if anyone knows if this is in Gippsland. Regards Doug Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Thank you to everyone who has responded to my lookup request. A whole problem has now been solved - the surname is actually LACE - Clara married her mother's cousin who was 15 years her senior. Obviously a change of Registrar after 1913, & therefore different handwriting, had made it easier for the person transposing to read the name. From all the help you have offered, I have found out more than I had possibly hoped for. Many, many thanks. Maureen

Maffra Cemetery records show Alice Theresa Warriner died 24/05/1964 and was buried three days later beside Robert Warriner in Presbyterian Section 5, Lot 4. There is no other information, either in the books or on the headstone. Unfortunately by this date the place of residence was not being recorded. Jeremy Hales

Hi Maureen, Found the following marriage, same couple but two spellings of the husbands name, Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: FARE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BAADE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 3341R Surname: LARE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BAADE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 3341 Found the following two births, Mother and father match except name is LACE. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: LACE Given Names: Alice Evelyne Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 24087 Surname: LACE Given Names: Letchen Mary Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 34914 and the following three in the Victorian Index. Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 Surname: LACE Given Names: Arth Hy Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 22772 Surname: LACE Given Names: Dory Annie Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1917 Reg. Number: 32226 Surname: LACE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 33999 Confusion reigns, LOL Terry Goodwin Gippsland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Edwardian - Digger Index > Hi all, > > Would there be SKS who has the above Index in their possession, be willing > to check the following for me? > > Any children who may have been born to > > (Father) William John Lare/Fare & > (Mother) Clara Baade > > in or after 1912, & possibly in/around Sale. > > Thank you. > > Cheers, Maureen > > > > > > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! > Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter > http://mail.giantcompany.com > > ______________________________

I know nothing about Gippsland geography but have found a reference to Mottled Range (? nr Maffra) at _http://www.dm3ds.com.au/maffranews/?id=6021_ (http://www.dm3ds.com.au/maffranews/?id=6021) Dave

Maureen, Three more hits with surname LACE in the Great War Index ..................................................................... Surname: LACE Given Names: Arth Hy Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 22772 ......................................................... Surname: LACE Given Names: Dory Annie Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1917 Reg. Number: 32226 ..................................................... Surname: LACE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 33999 ............................................. Walter

These two listings are probably what you are after. Note the spelling error. Clara married Wm Jno LARE in 1912 (Index 3341R) original entry was FARE (Index 3341). LACE, Letchen Mary, b 1913, Index No. 34914, F Wm Jno, M Clara Baade LACE, Alice Evelyne, b 1912, Index No. 24087, F Wm Jno, M Clara Baade Results gained from a search on Mother's name BAADE. Tony Meade ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [AVG] Edwardian - Digger Index > Hi all, > > Would there be SKS who has the above Index in their possession, be willing to check the following for me? > > Any children who may have been born to > > (Father) William John Lare/Fare & > (Mother) Clara Baade > > in or after 1912, & possibly in/around Sale. > > Thank you. > > Cheers, Maureen > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! > Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter > http://mail.giantcompany.com > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005

Hi again Maureen, Found two more with surname LACE .................................................................... Surname: LACE Given Names: Letchen Mary Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 34914 -------------------- Surname: LACE Given Names: Alice Evelyne Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 24087 ....................................................... Walter

Maureen, I found one possible hit. ......................................................... Surname: LARE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BAADE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 3341 .................................................... Walter

This is interesting - this is my grandfather you are talking about! Regards Majella Laws ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [AVG] Who introduced the first Sausage machine into Australia??? > Dear Geraldie, > > It is not a question, merely an illustration of the nature of the material > on the new page. The refence on the page is > > LAWS, Hec.- Butcher for 15 years in Raymond Street. Sixth generation of > butchers. Grandfather introduced the first sausage machine into > Australia. Ambition: To win Tatt's and become a Raymond Street Farmer. > > [end quote] > > This illustrates the type of entry to be found on the page which is not, > unfortunately, alphabetical. In the near future the Deputy will update > Pico-Search, and you will be able to search from the front page at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ > > Until then, you will have to go with > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/book4.html and maybe use your > browser's "Edit -> find" function > > Cheers > > Linda > > At 06:39 PM 19/06/2005 +1000, you wrote: > > >Dear Linda > >Would you be more specifics about this question > >It is my understanding that my great grandfather > >surname Gunton-Laws brought the first sausage machine to Australia . Cant > >find him in the site you refer to > >Kind Regards > >Geraldie Cocciardi(nee Laws ) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Anyone seen any good GIPPSLAND websites lately. Please feel free to mention GIPPSLAND websites on list, or drop a note to the Listowner to have them added to the AVG Home page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ >

Hi Maureen, from Edwardian Index: surname: LACE Given name: Alice Evelyne father: Wm Jno mother: Clara BAADE Birth place: Sale Year: 1912 Reg.No.: 24087 surname: LACE Given name: Letchen Mary father: Wm Jno mother: Clara BAADE Birth place: Sale Year: 1913 Reg. No.: 34914 hope this helps, cheers, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [AVG] Edwardian - Digger Index > Hi all, > > Would there be SKS who has the above Index in their possession, be willing > to check the following for me? > > Any children who may have been born to > > (Father) William John Lare/Fare & > (Mother) Clara Baade > > in or after 1912, & possibly in/around Sale. > > Thank you. > > Cheers, Maureen > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! > Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter > http://mail.giantcompany.com > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other > lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. >

Hi Maureen, I hope these help - two of them using the surname of LACE also!! Marg A in Queensland, Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Query ----- Surname : Fare (2 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: FARE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BAADE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 3341R Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Query ----- Surname : Lare (1 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: LARE Given Names: Wm Jno Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BAADE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 3341 Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Query ----- Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : Clara Baade (2 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: LACE Given Names: Alice Evelyne Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 24087 Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Query ----- Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : Clara Baade (2 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: LACE Given Names: Letchen Mary Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clara BAADE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 34914 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [AVG] Edwardian - Digger Index > Hi all, > > Would there be SKS who has the above Index in their possession, be willing to check the following for me? > > Any children who may have been born to > > (Father) William John Lare/Fare & > (Mother) Clara Baade > > in or after 1912, & possibly in/around Sale. > > Thank you. > > Cheers, Maureen > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! > Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter > http://mail.giantcompany.com > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings and chain letters. Material from other lists should ONLY be reposted when it relates to Gippsland topics. >

Hi all, Would there be SKS who has the above Index in their possession, be willing to check the following for me? Any children who may have been born to (Father) William John Lare/Fare & (Mother) Clara Baade in or after 1912, & possibly in/around Sale. Thank you. Cheers, Maureen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com

Hi Everyone, I am working my way through updating the surnames page for the Gippsland List at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/surnames.html Firstly - I still have some more to list, so yours may yet be there to go up. But if you look and cannot see it, feel free to e-mail me the details again at [email protected] Secondly - I am now entering e-mail addresses with a few obvious changed characters (eg a $ sign instead of the @) in an attempt to minimise spam for people who wish to be listed. As time permits I will be working my way through the whole list and re-writing the e-mail addresses. Thirdly - if you wish to have a name listed there, you need to write to me and provide the entries in the format I am using: SURNAME, Place/s in Gippsland, Date range at that/those places and your first name and e-mail address you wish listed. It helps me if you actually put in the e-mail that that is what you are asking me to do, as I get some weird and wonderful e-mails sometimes whose intent may not be totally clear. Fourthly - I only list names as a result of these e-mails - I will not collect them from postings to the list. Fifthly (and lastly) - if you are writing to me to, for example, change your e-mail address on the surname page listing, I need you to tell me the name of the List, as there are three others I maintain as well, and it really does help if I know where to look for you. I then need to know what the SURNAMES for which you are changing the e-mail - when I just get an e-mail that says - please change my e-mail address, as it is now XXXXX, I don't have a hope of working out what entries they are for. Thanks!!!!! Linda -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005

Dear Geraldie, It is not a question, merely an illustration of the nature of the material on the new page. The refence on the page is LAWS, Hec.- Butcher for 15 years in Raymond Street. Sixth generation of butchers. Grandfather introduced the first sausage machine into Australia. Ambition: To win Tatt's and become a Raymond Street Farmer. [end quote] This illustrates the type of entry to be found on the page which is not, unfortunately, alphabetical. In the near future the Deputy will update Pico-Search, and you will be able to search from the front page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/ Until then, you will have to go with http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/book4.html and maybe use your browser's "Edit -> find" function Cheers Linda At 06:39 PM 19/06/2005 +1000, you wrote: >Dear Linda >Would you be more specifics about this question >It is my understanding that my great grandfather >surname Gunton-Laws brought the first sausage machine to Australia . Cant >find him in the site you refer to >Kind Regards >Geraldie Cocciardi(nee Laws ) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005

Dear Linda Would you be more specifics about this question It is my understanding that my great grandfather surname Gunton-Laws brought the first sausage machine to Australia . Cant find him in the site you refer to Kind Regards Geraldie Cocciardi(nee Laws ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [AVG] Who introduced the first Sausage machine into Australia??? > Who introduced the first Sausage machine into Australia???? > > Details of that person, grandfather of a 1950 Sale butcher, can be found > in The Midnight Express, a new file uploaded to the AVG Home Pages at: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/book4.html > > This tongue-in-cheek listing of a large number of Sale residents in 1950, > when the City was proclaimed, comes courtesy of Glenys Wain. Thanks > Glenys. > > Cheers > > Linda > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005 > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND Mailing List ==== > In general, the more information you post about a family, the more > information you will get back - you need at least to say where in > Gippsland the family came from, and give an idea of dates. >