This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers. I found the graves of their other two children on "Madowla Park" n/e of Echuca. It has been classified and it was so sad to see the little graveyard and graves in such a bad state when we visited there in 2001. Eve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > my great grandfathers grave. > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were buried > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best for > grazing). > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Hi Eve Re your enquiry Kinnear, the following sites are useful re arrivals but yours dont seem to appear. cheers Grahame http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass1an.html http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ on 17/12/03 4:50 PM, Eve Anderson at eanderson@bigfoot.com.au wrote: > This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the > now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers. > I found the graves of their other two children on "Madowla Park" n/e of > Echuca. It has been classified and it was so sad to see the little graveyard > and graves in such a bad state when we visited there in 2001. > Eve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > >> Don't live in hope with the burial ground. >> I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find >> my great grandfathers grave. >> >> Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. >> He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. >> >> Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > buried >> as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. >> >> Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, >> more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > for >> grazing). >> >> Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the >> supposed place of burial. robyndehood. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM >> Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR >> >> >>> Hello List, >>> I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > and >> where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife >> Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in >> 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > Pioneers >> of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in >> 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. >> Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original >> poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their >> second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > on >> 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > died >> on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 >> (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I >> have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit >> her grave next year w! >>> hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > and >> arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. >>> I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > more >> into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some >> clues as to what to do. >>> My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's >> hoping. >>> Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. >>> >>> >>> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>> Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >>> http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >>> http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >>> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >> Geelong Family History Group : >> http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Churches : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm >