Further to Robyn's info about Croydon - Chris Weirman's phone is 0747456125 and he can be reached by email at - croydonifo@bigpond.com We were up there in August; my grandparents were there from about 1888 to 1908. My father was born there. Don Watson (also in Toowoomba) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Croydon, for those not in the know, is in the top end of far north Qld. The > locals and council have updated the place and in town it looks very nice. > Local tourist officer, Chris Weirman, is a fund of knowledge. > > Sadly, around 1888, dunno about earlier, there were heaps of people looking > for gold there. Mostly slightly out of town. The water was dreadful and > the sanitation even worse so it seems. People died like flies. Guess the > Irish survived by not drinking water! > > Well, my great grandfather did until 1888 when he died of 'local disease', > dropsy, and other dreadful things. He left a large family, didn't they all, > and his wife. The couple ran the local hotel at Mulligan's Camp, out of > town. After her husband died, and then her son, she came to town and ran > another hotel. With all those kids! > > Anyway, eventually she came to Brisbane and lived with her daughter Cecilia > Gamble, and died at the ripe old age of about 84 I think from memory. > > I tramped over many grave sites, found an Irish cross fallen over, flooded > and looking dreadful. Could not deciper the name of the person, so > 'assumed' it was my great grandfather. Best I could do. Well, it COULD be > his...........er.....er.... > > Because of the hot weather, lack of preservation, people were buried not far > from where they died. I am sure he is buried on a property, with about 30 > others, at a local area, but cannot have access to them all as the man who > owns it does not let people in. > > Story goes that he purchased the place, knowing the graves were there, and > was not supposed to 'fence them in', e.g. he was to make the fence do a dog > leg, but of course, he didn't. How can people 'buy' consecrated ground?? > Then not let the rellies go there?? Dunno. > > I am sure if he had to do without the small area where the graves are, and > had access to them available, it would not affect his monetary return from > the property. He has thousands of other acres. It is not god's own > country. It is dry and rocky and I am sure he would not miss the few acres, > but........... > > Sorry I cannot tell anyone about other goldfields. Chris Weirman is the > man. There were heaps of goldfields, heaps of immigrants, all round > Croydon. If anyone wants to contact Chris, ring the local council and ask > for his email. > > robyn shaw. toowoomba.qld. (the bottom end of Qld!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from > > croydon? > > We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is > > left at all? > > Linda > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > > > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to > find > > > my great grandfathers grave. > > > > > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great > grandfather. > > > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > > > > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > > buried > > > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > > > > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over > them, > > > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > > for > > > grazing). > > > > > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > > > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > > > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > > and > > > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his > wife > > > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia > in > > > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > > Pioneers > > > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > > > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > > > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an > original > > > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > > > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > > on > > > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > > died > > > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep > 1852 > > > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible > I > > > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can > visit > > > her grave next year w! > > > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > > and > > > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July > 1852. > > > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > > more > > > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > > > clues as to what to do. > > > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > > > hoping. > > > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong Family History Group : > > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm >