Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from croydon? We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is left at all? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > my great grandfathers grave. > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were buried > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best for > grazing). > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Croydon, for those not in the know, is in the top end of far north Qld. The locals and council have updated the place and in town it looks very nice. Local tourist officer, Chris Weirman, is a fund of knowledge. Sadly, around 1888, dunno about earlier, there were heaps of people looking for gold there. Mostly slightly out of town. The water was dreadful and the sanitation even worse so it seems. People died like flies. Guess the Irish survived by not drinking water! Well, my great grandfather did until 1888 when he died of 'local disease', dropsy, and other dreadful things. He left a large family, didn't they all, and his wife. The couple ran the local hotel at Mulligan's Camp, out of town. After her husband died, and then her son, she came to town and ran another hotel. With all those kids! Anyway, eventually she came to Brisbane and lived with her daughter Cecilia Gamble, and died at the ripe old age of about 84 I think from memory. I tramped over many grave sites, found an Irish cross fallen over, flooded and looking dreadful. Could not deciper the name of the person, so 'assumed' it was my great grandfather. Best I could do. Well, it COULD be his...........er.....er.... Because of the hot weather, lack of preservation, people were buried not far from where they died. I am sure he is buried on a property, with about 30 others, at a local area, but cannot have access to them all as the man who owns it does not let people in. Story goes that he purchased the place, knowing the graves were there, and was not supposed to 'fence them in', e.g. he was to make the fence do a dog leg, but of course, he didn't. How can people 'buy' consecrated ground?? Then not let the rellies go there?? Dunno. I am sure if he had to do without the small area where the graves are, and had access to them available, it would not affect his monetary return from the property. He has thousands of other acres. It is not god's own country. It is dry and rocky and I am sure he would not miss the few acres, but........... Sorry I cannot tell anyone about other goldfields. Chris Weirman is the man. There were heaps of goldfields, heaps of immigrants, all round Croydon. If anyone wants to contact Chris, ring the local council and ask for his email. robyn shaw. toowoomba.qld. (the bottom end of Qld!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from > croydon? > We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is > left at all? > Linda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > > my great grandfathers grave. > > > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > buried > > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > for > > grazing). > > > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > and > > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > Pioneers > > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > on > > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > died > > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > > her grave next year w! > > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > and > > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > more > > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > > clues as to what to do. > > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > > hoping. > > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong Family History Group : > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >