Thank you for that info. Why I said that, read on.... Isaac Shaw, supposedly convict, came to Oz. wife and kids followed. sentence completed he is going back to England?? think Suffolk district. Ship taking them back (only one I can find possible is George 111, called into Newcastle for coal as ballast) and on the way out sank. many drowned. Isaac, wife and daughter some of them. Son, Benjamin, supp. about 12, got to shore and ended up at Maitland. This above is all story....not supported. Benjamin became (now all this part IS true) a carrier in Gunnedah. One of the places he visited was a place owned by Cunningham's e.g. Cunningham's Flat, and they had a servant girl/housemaid whatever (we were real landed gentry) called Eliza Crouch (or Crerech, think German so changed it). The place was called Liverpool Plains then. Ben and Eliza went 'paddling up the river' so I was told. Next year when Ben arrived back for his load, Eliza presented him with a young child called John. He was my husband's grandpa. Ben said, this ain't mine, I have not been here for 12 months. Eliza pointed out that the child was 3 months old!!! They married about 6 months later. I could never find John being born. Tribes of brothers and sisters. Never John. Well, parents married in 1857, Liverpool Plains, John was never registered. So when I worked that one out, just put a (C) born 1856 against his name and then went in search of his parents. Fine, Ben and Eliza. Then went in search of Ben's dad...and came unstuck. Seems his name was Bradshaw, being a convict name, young Ben chose to drop the Brad (of course it could have been Grim..) and only call himself Shaw. I have gone over shipping records, convict records, been on lists until I am blue in the face trying to find a Isaac anything Shaw, who came here at all....if anyone has any bright ideas, feel free to add you opinions. robyndehood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > Hi Robyn? (I think that's your name???), > > I'm not sure what you mean by those with an asterisk against their name? > > Basically, almost all overseas passenger ships destined for "Geelong" landed > at Point Henry - anything over about 220 ton up until the 1860s or later > couldn't get over the sandbar and into the wharves at Geelong. They started > dredging the smaller channels but the more they dredged the larger the ships > got and they never really caught up with the size of the ships! The > Hopetoun Channel which solved the problem wasn't fully open for day and > night navigation until 1892. > > So that's why the majority of "Geelong" bound passenger ships landed on the > eastern side of Point Henry - nice deep channel then very shallow area for > bringing people and livestock ashore. > > Regards ....... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > > > > as far as i understood, the ships that had an asterisk against their name > > went to geelong. if you find a edward evans there, looking for a mary > > tremayne, that would be nice. robyndehood.toowoomba.qld. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >