as far as i understood, the ships that had an asterisk against their name went to geelong. if you find a edward evans there, looking for a mary tremayne, that would be nice. robyndehood.toowoomba.qld. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > Hi Folks, > > Did you know that Geelong (Point Henry!) "received far more assisted > immigrants than any other regional port in Victoria"? Obviously Melbourne > isn't regional <vbg> but I think most of us who have researched in this area > realise that it was No. 2 to Melbourne for immigration. > > Just thought I'd let you know about a terrific new book that you might like > to find and read - released about a week or so ago. > > "A Place to Lay My Head : Immigrant Shelters of Nineteenth Century Victoria" > by Dr. Keith Pescod, Australian Scholarly Publishing, Melbourne. > > This is a follow up to the book he published in 2001 ......... > > "Good food, bright fires & civility : British Emigrant Depots of the 19th > Century" > > His first one was EXCELLENT - helps you understand what our ancestors went > through in the lead up to boarding their ship in Britain to come to > Australia. > > And if the first one is anything to go by, the second one should be > terrific - what happened to them when they arrived in Victoria ... with LOTS > of Geelong references. > > Keith and his wife were down here (Geelong region) last year and the year > before researching for this book. I believe that Griffiths will be stocking > it - I know Keith had a list of a couple of places in Geelong that were > probably going to stock it. > > Worth reading! > > Regards ....... Susie Zada > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Hi Robyn? (I think that's your name???), I'm not sure what you mean by those with an asterisk against their name? Basically, almost all overseas passenger ships destined for "Geelong" landed at Point Henry - anything over about 220 ton up until the 1860s or later couldn't get over the sandbar and into the wharves at Geelong. They started dredging the smaller channels but the more they dredged the larger the ships got and they never really caught up with the size of the ships! The Hopetoun Channel which solved the problem wasn't fully open for day and night navigation until 1892. So that's why the majority of "Geelong" bound passenger ships landed on the eastern side of Point Henry - nice deep channel then very shallow area for bringing people and livestock ashore. Regards ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > as far as i understood, the ships that had an asterisk against their name > went to geelong. if you find a edward evans there, looking for a mary > tremayne, that would be nice. robyndehood.toowoomba.qld.

The Geelong connection..... story....Edward Evans came from Suffolk, place starting with W, whiteman or something (This is the story mind...) No other details. Left behind his 'with child' Mary Tremayne in Cornwall. She with her family came out here to make an honest woman of herself. Child born and died before they married. She did find him at Geelong. Where Wangaratta now stands. It is confusing because a Matilda Evans and her young family came out here on the same boat at Mary. The Lysanda. 1849. Matilda and her family, AND Mary and Edward and THEIR family, both lived, probably next door to each other, at Ovens River. SO I thought, is this Matilda any relation to Mary's Edward?? Not that Evans is a unusual name, but is it more than oc-incidence that Mary, pregnant to Edward Evans, comes to Oz on the Lysanda, with another family called Evans, and they both live at Ovens River. Seems to me that maybe Edward was related to them...I live in hope. He came out on the Anna Maria I was told, and that ship, against it's name, has an asterisk, which means it went to Geelong. I got that info from the index. Now, I have never been able to find Edward Evans coming to Australia. Bit like Isaac Grim/Brad/Shaw. They both must have swum, as the late Janet Reaken would have said.... Anyone can you find Edward Evans coming here, must have been before 1849 as he married then in December in Melbourne to Mary Tremayne. Digger index shows them marrying and the death of Mary Tremayne Evans the child. Was only a few days old. I have looked through many indexes and musters and payrolls and messages, nobody has come back to me with his name on a ship. robyndehood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > Hi Robyn? (I think that's your name???), > > I'm not sure what you mean by those with an asterisk against their name? > > Basically, almost all overseas passenger ships destined for "Geelong" landed > at Point Henry - anything over about 220 ton up until the 1860s or later > couldn't get over the sandbar and into the wharves at Geelong. They started > dredging the smaller channels but the more they dredged the larger the ships > got and they never really caught up with the size of the ships! The > Hopetoun Channel which solved the problem wasn't fully open for day and > night navigation until 1892. > > So that's why the majority of "Geelong" bound passenger ships landed on the > eastern side of Point Henry - nice deep channel then very shallow area for > bringing people and livestock ashore. > > Regards ....... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > > > > as far as i understood, the ships that had an asterisk against their name > > went to geelong. if you find a edward evans there, looking for a mary > > tremayne, that would be nice. robyndehood.toowoomba.qld. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hello ? (name not given) I usually do not reply to messages without a proper name, but have decided to reply this once. If your Edward EVANS is, in fact, the Edward who arrived on the "Anna Maria", then he was an "exile". Exiles were a new class of convict, given a year in prison, first in solitary, and then learning a trade (some still in solitary, some allowed to work in groups), they were then placed on a ship for Australia (in his case, for Port Phillip) and on arrival were issued with a conditional pardon. They were free to live and work in Port Phillip, but could not return to England until the expiry of their sentence, hence the name "exile". Now, so you can test the voracity of the "pregnant, born/died on board story: Edward was convicted of larceny by a "servant in a dwelling house", convicted in London at the central criminal court 24 Sep 1846, sent on to Pentonville prison (where trade training was given) 2 Nov 1846 where he was taught the trade of "rug and mat maker". His previous callings were "soldier and porter". He then went on board the "Anna Maria", arriving Geelong 23 Jun 1849. So if this is your man, he had no access to friends from at least 24 Sept 1846 to 23 Jun 1849. He was listed as "single, could read and write" That's all the information here. The second passenger listing, the "disposal" listing, which showed who the man was engaged to work for, and his wages, was "sent on to Sydney head office" before it could be copied for the Port Phillip records. You may have some luck on the NSW records. Regards, Ada At 09:22 19-08-03 +1000, you wrote: >The Geelong connection..... story....Edward Evans came from Suffolk, place >starting with W, whiteman or something (This is the story mind...) >No other details. Left behind his 'with child' Mary Tremayne in Cornwall. >She with her family came out here to make an honest woman of herself. Child >born and died before they married. > She did find him at Geelong.Where Wangaratta now stands. Sorry, but Geelong and Wangaratta are in Southern and Northern Victoria. > Mary, >pregnant to Edward Evans, comes to Oz on the Lysanda I think we have shown that is impossible... they may have met, coupled, in Victoria, Port Phillip and then: >he married then in December in Melbourne to Mary Tremayne. >Digger index shows them marrying and the death of Mary Tremayne Evans the >child. Was only a few days old. > robyndehood. > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch