Hi all as i have relatives in the pub book i mentioned, i was wondering if there'd be paperwork available to show that an individual had the license transferred over to them? and if so how do obtain these? thanks again in advance, Ainslee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l www.ainsleehooper.com GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide.

Hello Ainslee, If you're talking about "Geelong Hotels and their Licensees" by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd, then a couple of things to add ......... This has now been reprinted (nothing changed, just a straight reprint) by the Geelong Historical Society. The book is $12 to members of the Geelong Historical Society and I think $15 from the Geelong Heritage Centre. The introduction to the book explains the process of license applications etc. Licenses were granted in the courts - generally in the Court of Petty Sessions and you'll find that details appeared in the normal court registers and later in a separate licensing register. And yes, there was a "license" - the Bellarine Historical Society has an original as well as some photocopies. A lot would depend on whether your ancestors kept their copies as that's generally the only place you would find them, but as they were renewed each year, often they would be thrown away once the new one had been obtained. Also beware that the courts were generally Shire / Council based so the court records apply to the local court - in the 1800s there wasn't one court for the whole region but sometimes a neighbouring court sitting would be used. i.e. The Court of Petty Sessions which normally sat in the Court House at Drysdale, Shire of Bellarine, includes some Queenscliff hotels in the license renewals but only on odd occasions - generally where a license was transferred so a different time of year to the normal license renewals when each court would be geared up for all the renewals. You'll find some of the Geelong registers at the PRO - Geelong, Geelong West, South Barwon and possibly others. The Drysdale Court registers are at the Geelong Heritage Centre and have been fully indexed by the Bellarine Historical Society, 1859-1963. It is definitely reading the introduction to the hotels book - some very good explanations and information. Regards .... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <arhooper@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: [GEELONG] pub licensee papers > Hi all > as i have relatives in the pub book i mentioned, i was wondering if there'd be paperwork available to show that an individual had the license transferred over to them? and if so how do obtain these? thanks again in advance, Ainslee

HI Suzie, thanks for the email. Mum purchased this book last week (and is the one you talk about). Would this mean I have the most upto date version? Cheers, Ainslee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l www.ainsleehooper.com GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] pub licensee papers > Hello Ainslee, > > If you're talking about "Geelong Hotels and their Licensees" by Bill Morrow > and Ian Wynd, then a couple of things to add ......... > > This has now been reprinted (nothing changed, just a straight reprint) by > the Geelong Historical Society. The book is $12 to members of the Geelong > Historical Society and I think $15 from the Geelong Heritage Centre. > > The introduction to the book explains the process of license applications > etc. Licenses were granted in the courts - generally in the Court of Petty > Sessions and you'll find that details appeared in the normal court registers > and later in a separate licensing register. And yes, there was a > "license" - the Bellarine Historical Society has an original as well as some > photocopies. A lot would depend on whether your ancestors kept their copies > as that's generally the only place you would find them, but as they were > renewed each year, often they would be thrown away once the new one had been > obtained. > > Also beware that the courts were generally Shire / Council based so the > court records apply to the local court - in the 1800s there wasn't one court > for the whole region but sometimes a neighbouring court sitting would be > used. i.e. The Court of Petty Sessions which normally sat in the Court > House at Drysdale, Shire of Bellarine, includes some Queenscliff hotels in > the license renewals but only on odd occasions - generally where a license > was transferred so a different time of year to the normal license renewals > when each court would be geared up for all the renewals. > > You'll find some of the Geelong registers at the PRO - Geelong, Geelong > West, South Barwon and possibly others. The Drysdale Court registers are at > the Geelong Heritage Centre and have been fully indexed by the Bellarine > Historical Society, 1859-1963. > > It is definitely reading the introduction to the hotels book - some very > good explanations and information. > > Regards .... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ainslee Hooper" <arhooper@iprimus.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:03 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] pub licensee papers > > > > Hi all > > as i have relatives in the pub book i mentioned, i was wondering if > there'd be paperwork available to show that an individual had the license > transferred over to them? and if so how do obtain these? thanks again in > advance, Ainslee > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

Hi Ainslee, There is no "most up-to-date version" - there has only ever been one version which has been reprinted just as it was printed when first released. Regards ..... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <arhooper@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] pub licensee papers > HI Suzie, thanks for the email. Mum purchased this book last week (and is > the one you talk about). Would this mean I have the most upto date version? > Cheers, Ainslee > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --