Hi again, Amanda! I still have a lot of MOUNTJOY material you sent me, and shall send you a private e-mail shortly. In the meantime, many thanks for the look-up and information. I have very little on HOSKINS - though my father bought some of their land when the son Philip died in 1938. And you've filled in a gap or two on JOHNS. If anyone else is following the JOHNS family: I was shown a letter from his son William's daughter Winnie which says that William married Elizabeth PHILLIPS, not Elizabeth HARRISON, in 1892, at the Congregational Church. Malvern. And William's sister Louisa Jane (Louie) married Ted RANKIN and founded a football dynasty in Geelong. She dies aged 33, and Ted married again ca 1914. Best wishes Marion