Hello Graham , I will have to answer your query over several messages, because I cannot type for very long: All those named did, indeed, arrive as exiles on the ships named. In my early research on recidivism of the exiles, I collected little snippets. First, of the 1728 exiles who landed in Port Phillip 266 aliases are recorded both from the original lists and the prison records 1851-1861 and 188 prisoners are named as "exiles"in those records. In the period 1845-1850 the police admitted, because exiles arrived "free" they were treated as "first offence" when they strayed, and, as the police received no lists of these exiles, they were unable to say if persons brought before their courts were "exiles" or really free immigrants, even though the government of NSW (then in charge of Port Phillip) twice sought the figures to pass on to the British government. An estimate was made of 79, with no records to agree or deny. My research in the limited records in the dates I indicated suggest that one in six returned to crime. This means that 5 in 6 either were good citizens, or too clever to be caught. We do know that many moved to other states (and NZ) where, particularly if they lived with an alias, they are unable to be used in the statistics. So here is the first note I have: > Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849> His wife and child arrived to join him on 28 Aug 1850. (He was obviously well-behaved, and likely had a written approval by his employer. Not everyone managed such reunions, even after repeated applications.) > Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847> There were two with this surname on this ship, but their given names were James and Lewin. (I will check my notes later to see if they had Oxfordshire connections.) Sorry, the pain in my arm and hand is taking over. I will have to stop for at least 24 hours. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grahame & Rosslyn Thom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Exiles from Oxford > Hi list > > I have a friend in Oxford who is preparing a publication on people > convicted and sentenced to transportation from Oxfordshire including > 13 exlies. > > If anyone knows anything about the following exiles could you please > contact me. Or for that matter anyone who has a convict who was > sentenced in Oxfordshire. > > Grahame > > Bartlett, George, arr PP/Geelong on Sir George Seymour in 1845 > Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 > Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 > Cooper, or Cowper, William, arr PP on Sir Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 > Eden, John alias Coleman, arr on Maitland in 1846 > Gardner or Gardiner, Samuel, arr Geelong on Joseph Somes in 1847 > Goolding or Goulding, Henry arr on Maitland in 1846 > Hatton, or Hatten William alias Smith, arr Geelong on Eden in 1849 > Perrin, Richard, arr PP on Joseph Somes in 1847 > Plunkett, Thomas, arr Geelong on Maitland in 1846 > Spragg, Thomas, arr Sir George Seymour in 1845 > Ward, William, arr on Maitland in 1846 > White, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849

Hi Ada Many thanks for taking the time to respond. What you have said is very interesting and useful. Any little snippets will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Grahame On 08/03/2007, at 4:21 PM, Ada Ackerly wrote: > Hello Graham , > > I will have to answer your query over several messages, because I > cannot > type for very long: > > All those named did, indeed, arrive as exiles on the ships named. > > In my early research on recidivism of the exiles, I collected little > snippets. > > First, of the 1728 exiles who landed in Port Phillip 266 aliases are > recorded both from the original lists and the prison records > 1851-1861 and > 188 prisoners are named as "exiles"in those records. > > In the period 1845-1850 the police admitted, because exiles arrived > "free" > they were treated as "first offence" when they strayed, and, as the > police > received no lists of these exiles, they were unable to say if persons > brought before their courts were "exiles" or really free > immigrants, even > though the government of NSW (then in charge of Port Phillip) twice > sought > the figures to pass on to the British government. An estimate was > made of > 79, with no records to agree or deny. > > My research in the limited records in the dates I indicated suggest > that one > in six returned to crime. This means that 5 in 6 either were good > citizens, > or too clever to be caught. We do know that many moved to other > states (and > NZ) where, particularly if they lived with an alias, they are > unable to be > used in the statistics. > > So here is the first note I have: >> Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849> > His wife and child arrived to join him on 28 Aug 1850. (He was > obviously > well-behaved, and likely had a written approval by his employer. Not > everyone managed such reunions, even after repeated applications.) > >> Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847> > There were two with this surname on this ship, but their given > names were > James and Lewin. (I will check my notes later to see if they had > Oxfordshire > connections.) > > Sorry, the pain in my arm and hand is taking over. I will have to > stop for > at least 24 hours. > > Regards Ada > > > Ada Ackerly. Melbourne > Formerly Ackerly Docusearch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grahame & Rosslyn Thom" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:39 AM > Subject: [GEELONG] Exiles from Oxford > > >> Hi list >> >> I have a friend in Oxford who is preparing a publication on people >> convicted and sentenced to transportation from Oxfordshire including >> 13 exlies. >> >> If anyone knows anything about the following exiles could you please >> contact me. Or for that matter anyone who has a convict who was >> sentenced in Oxfordshire. >> >> Grahame >> >> Bartlett, George, arr PP/Geelong on Sir George Seymour in 1845 >> Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 >> Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 >> Cooper, or Cowper, William, arr PP on Sir Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 >> Eden, John alias Coleman, arr on Maitland in 1846 >> Gardner or Gardiner, Samuel, arr Geelong on Joseph Somes in 1847 >> Goolding or Goulding, Henry arr on Maitland in 1846 >> Hatton, or Hatten William alias Smith, arr Geelong on Eden in 1849 >> Perrin, Richard, arr PP on Joseph Somes in 1847 >> Plunkett, Thomas, arr Geelong on Maitland in 1846 >> Spragg, Thomas, arr Sir George Seymour in 1845 >> Ward, William, arr on Maitland in 1846 >> White, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message