Marion Thank you for that...........I have a theory that is so far fetched that it is almost believable. My gt grandfather was adopted by a Schulz family Carl August Schulz and Johanna Louise...................supposedly his mother died......and her name was Johanna Horne and his father was a Grellet / Grillet..... Now we have a theory that Johanna Horne married Christian Jorgensen and had a child Ludwig in 1861 , which is when our fellow was supposed to be born. Then c1880 Johanna married Julian Grellet..................and has her status as "Abandonded" .............Obviously Christian Jergensen left her. Do you think this is too far fetched Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marion Stainsby Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2007 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Jorgensen Hello Kaye In these pages, the book describes the development of settlement in Belmont. This section is

Kaye, I'm not quite sure what you suggest happened with these adoption/abandonment cases, because of the possibility of more than one generation having the same name, but I certainly believe that you can get a man marrying a child's mother and having the paperwork show they adopted him as a couple. Are you saying that your gt-grand was Ludwig Jorgenson. s/o Johanna Horne and a Grellet (Julian?) whom his mother later married? If so, why was he called Jorgenson? Is it possible that someone filled in a form giving his legal father as his natural father? Or that Johanna had three partners? Or that Jorgenson thought Ludwig was his, and later abandoned them when he found he wasn't, leaving her to marry the natural father rather belatedly? Is Johanna Horne necessarily the same person as Johanna Louise, or can this be one of those cases where an aunt or cousin brings up the child of a relative? Schutlz doesn't seem to quite fit in here, unless you can give us a few more dates. But in general I'd agree that far-fetched things do happen - especially when the records are kept by fallible human beings! I'd like to see some comments on this from other Listers. Best of luck Marion

Our theory was that Johanna Horn married Christian Jorgensen she adopted her son Ludwig whose name was changed by his new parents, and a few years later she married Julien Grellet and is listed as "abandonded" on the marriage cert. Hence the family story that my gt grandfather was originally a Grellet.................. Is it too far fetched...???????? Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marion Stainsby Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2007 5:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Jorgensen/Schulz/GRellet///////////far fetched?????????? Kaye, I'm not quite sure what you suggest happened with these adoption/abandonment cases, because of the possibility of more than one generation having the same name, but I certainly believe that you can get a man marrying a child's mother and having the paperwork show they adopted him as a couple. Are you saying that your gt-grand was Ludwig Jorgenson. s/o Johanna Horne and a Grellet (Julian?) whom his mother later married? If so, why was he called Jorgenson? Is it possible that someone filled in a form giving his legal father as his natural father? Or that Johanna had three partners? Or that Jorgenson thought Ludwig was his, and later abandoned them when he found he wasn't, leaving her to marry the natural father rather belatedly? Is Johanna Horne necessarily the same person as Johanna Louise, or can this be one of those cases where an aunt or cousin brings up the child of a relative? Schutlz doesn't seem to quite fit in here, unless you can give us a few more dates. But in general I'd agree that far-fetched things do happen - especially when the records are kept by fallible human beings! I'd like to see some comments on this from other Listers. Best of luck Marion ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message