Thanks Nola & Susie for confirming it's the site and not my computer! Susie, I'm not even sure there will be an entry as it's for Debbie BECKWITH who passed away last year and was 'privately cremated' (according to G.Addy) so unless her ashes have been buried with someone already interred in one of the G&D cemeteries.....it was just a shot in the dark. She was the teacher of a little boy (relative) who was wanting to visit her grave but I explained to them that there may not even be one to visit. Thanks again Debbie Geelong

Hi Debbie, I had the same problem yesterday - hopefully it will be back on-line tomorrow when the office reopens. And no - it's not off-topic! Regards ....... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Monday, 22 March 2010 11:59 AM To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GEELONG] Help with Geelong Cemeteries Trust site Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I'm wondering if anyone else is NOT getting thru to the above online site? I've been trying since last night and throughout today. Debbie Geelong

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I'm wondering if anyone else is NOT getting thru to the above online site? I've been trying since last night and throughout today. Debbie Geelong

Hello Nola, Currently the PROV is NOT open on Mondays The Reading Room will be closed for two full weeks at 4.30 p.m. on Friday 26th March 2010 and will re-open on Monday 12 April 2010 at 9.00 a.m. These two weeks will see "redesign initiatives. Normal PROV Reading Room opening hours "are expected to recommence Mon 12th April 2010", but researchers are advised to check the website http://www.prov.vic.gov.au Regards Ada nola k wrote: > Afternoon All > I am hoping that someone knows for certain if the PROV Office is currently open or closed on Mondays. The website contradicts itself as it says the Monday closures were due to end in Feb however the contact page does not include hours for Monday. > I just wish I had remembered to ring yesterday!! > Thanks & kind regards, > Nola Kulakowski > Violet Town > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks very much for that Ada, I won't be going there on Monday then. Regards, Nola ________________________________ From: Ada Ackerly <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 20 March, 2010 4:20:53 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] PROV Days Hello Nola, Currently the PROV is NOT open on Mondays The Reading Room will be closed for two full weeks at 4.30 p.m. on Friday 26th March 2010 and will re-open on Monday 12 April 2010 at 9.00 a.m. These two weeks will see "redesign initiatives. Normal PROV Reading Room opening hours "are expected to recommence Mon 12th April 2010", but researchers are advised to check the website http://www.prov.vic.gov.au Regards Ada nola k wrote: > Afternoon All > I am hoping that someone knows for certain if the PROV Office is currently open or closed on Mondays. The website contradicts itself as it says the Monday closures were due to end in Feb however the contact page does not include hours for Monday. > I just wish I had remembered to ring yesterday!! > Thanks & kind regards, > Nola Kulakowski > Violet Town > > >      > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afternoon All I am hoping that someone knows for certain if the PROV Office is currently open or closed on Mondays. The website contradicts itself as it says the Monday closures were due to end in Feb however the contact page does not include hours for Monday. I just wish I had remembered to ring yesterday!! Thanks & kind regards, Nola Kulakowski Violet Town 

Hi Colleen, You don't mention where you live (which State) which could help, as well as a few more details on the collection you mentioned. There are really two issues - PRESERVATION and USE PRESERVATION You need to protect the originals you have as well as making sure they don't contaminate other items in your collection. Some good advice has been given and you can also get advice from places like your State Library, Museum, State Records Office, Australian Archives, RHSV etc. There are also grants available from many different sources which can assist with doing this. Also, everyone, no matter whether they have a museum collection or private family items, should download all the volumes of "reCollections: caring for collections across Australia". This boxed set was provided free to all museums in Australia in 1998 or could be bought for about $200-300. BUT you can download the entire collection free from ... http://archive.amol.org.au/recollections/index.htm USE Jenny also gave the best advice for being able to actually USE the newspapers and clippings - copy / scan / photograph them - print them for TWO reasons - one being archival for storing if you aren't able to properly preserve the originals, and the other for "everyday" use and display. You don't mention if the clippings are loose or pasted in some sort of display book - obviously different treatment will be required. The grants mentioned above are also available for copying such items. Hope that helps ........... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Robinson Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:40 AM To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings To anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been cared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes to eradicate this odour. Any advise will be gratefully accepted. Colleen.

>Keep the clippings in acid free boxes and/or folios. Store clippings in a dark and DRY place - you can use silica pouches to draw out moisture. Handle clippings with white cotton gloves. To anyone on the list. > > I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. > > We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. > > They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been > cared for. > > Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes > to eradicate this odour. > > Any advise will be gratefully accepted. > > Colleen. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Collen, might I suggest one step at a time, small amounts at a time. If you can find a metal box a little bigger than one group of your papers, start with just one small group.Alternatively, a sealable cupboard. First, to remove any absorbtion of humid air, put a small number of your papers or books on small blocks to lift them above the flat base. Then get some silica gel in little gauze bags (so you can see the crystals and the silica gel can absorb any moisture) the silica changes from blue to pink. Pink crystals may be reconstituted by heating in an oven, when it again turns blue, and can be used again. Keep using the silica gel (reconstituted) until it no longer absorbs water and stays pink. Of course, your metal box/cupboard needs to be sealed from the air by using masking tape or similar around the lid/door, etc. After a few re-treatments with silica gel, probably taking several days, the second step would be replacing the silica gel bags with bicarb soda in similar gauze bags, very loosely half-filled. Make sure the bags are never in contact with the paper being treated Step 1. should take away threats from humidity and reduce some of the mustiness. Step 2. should absorb smells After that, it is best to store the materials in cupboards which would be treated for humidity and continue to have silica gel bags replaced regularly within. Hope that helps. Regards Ada Colleen Robinson wrote: > To anyone on the list. > > I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. > > We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. > > They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been > cared for. > > Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes > to eradicate this odour.

Hi Colleen, Newspaper is very cheaply made paper, as it was only designed to last until the next issue. It is full of acid and lignin and WILL deteriorate fairly rapidly. It is possible to "treat" the newspaper to remove the acid, but I don't know how effective it is. It would certainly be a lot of work to treat (and then dry) each piece of paper. The decision of the Historical Society of which I am a committee member (after advice from the National Library), is to make photocopies of the papers onto archival paper. The originals are then packed away. With any such material it is essential to pack it away to avoid any cross-contamination with other parts of your collection. This (or scanning) is also our procedure for "valuable" originals, which we don't want to be handled more than necessary. There are a number of web sites that have lots of really good advice about preservation. There are also grants available to groups like yours to get materials and training in preservation techniques. Regards Jenny Joyce Ku-ring-gai Historical Society o anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been ared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes o eradicate this odour. Any advise will be gratefully accepted. Colleen. ----------------------------- Message: 2 ate: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:02:22 +1030 rom: "Lyndell Horbury" <troy26@bigpond.com> ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings o: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <3A0FBB5F7AC14016A0158B5B3224B704@acer067e3bcefd> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Colleen, you could try putting carb soda in a container in the boxes, it eems to absorb most smells. egards, Lyndell. ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Colleen Robinson" <ceedeed@dodo.com.au> o: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:09 AM ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings To anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been cared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes to eradicate this odour. Any advise will be gratefully accepted. Colleen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/17/10 6:03:00 ------------------------------ Message: 3 ate: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:16:01 +1100 rom: "Stan & Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@iprimus.com.au> ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings o: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <16B6BEAAA84F479394F1128C46A82D80@familyPC> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The problem with using anything on the paper is it may affect its reservation of course. Personally, I have found sometimes using soemthing else masks the odour, ie avender nearby, febreeze sprayed near but not on paper, spray onto a paper owle and place nearby, or nilodour on similar. fresh air and circulation is est i think, I use white vinegar on musty clothes in the wash which works eally well. i carb certainly helps absorb damp and commercial preparations are also vailable such as the sachets you find packed in electrical goods. have seen a website which suggested calcium chloride chips which are used n pool maintenance works apparently well but havent tried it. ope it helps. that musty smell is overpowering at times. inda ---- Original Message ----- "Colleen Robinson" <ceedeed@dodo.com.au> o: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:39 AM ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings To anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been cared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes to eradicate this odour. Any advise will be gratefully accepted. Colleen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 ate: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:27:56 +1100 rom: "Colleen Robinson" <ceedeed@dodo.com.au> ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings o: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <000a01cac65b$c4577530$de9b027b@LAPTOP1> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks Linda, I'll pass on these tips. Might suggest we try bicarb as it may be more economical than the sachets. Colleen. ----------------------------- Message: 5 ate: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:38:39 +1100 rom: Ada Ackerly <aackers@alphalink.com.au> ubject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings o: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <4BA1CA6F.7040300@alphalink.com.au> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Collen, might I suggest one step at a time, small amounts at a time. If you can find a metal box a little bigger than one group of your apers, start with just one small group.Alternatively, a sealable cupboard. First, to remove any absorbtion of humid air, put a small number of our papers or books on small blocks to lift them above the flat base. hen get some silica gel in little gauze bags (so you can see the rystals and the silica gel can absorb any moisture) the silica changes rom blue to pink. Pink crystals may be reconstituted by heating in an ven, when it again turns blue, and can be used again. Keep using the ilica gel (reconstituted) until it no longer absorbs water and stays pink. Of course, your metal box/cupboard needs to be sealed from the air by sing masking tape or similar around the lid/door, etc. After a few re-treatments with silica gel, probably taking several days, he second step would be replacing the silica gel bags with bicarb soda n similar gauze bags, very loosely half-filled. Make sure the bags are ever in contact with the paper being treated Step 1. should take away threats from humidity and reduce some of the ustiness. tep 2. should absorb smells After that, it is best to store the materials in cupboards which would e treated for humidity and continue to have silica gel bags replaced egularly within. Hope that helps. Regards Ada Colleen Robinson wrote: To anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been cared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes to eradicate this odour. ----------------------------- To contact the AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT list administrator, send an email to US-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT mailing list, send an email to US-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of he mail with no additional text. nd of AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 38 ******************************************************

Thanks Linda, I'll pass on these tips. Might suggest we try bicarb as it may be more economical than the sachets. Colleen.

The problem with using anything on the paper is it may affect its preservation of course. Personally, I have found sometimes using soemthing else masks the odour, ie lavender nearby, febreeze sprayed near but not on paper, spray onto a paper towle and place nearby, or nilodour on similar. fresh air and circulation is best i think, I use white vinegar on musty clothes in the wash which works really well. Bi carb certainly helps absorb damp and commercial preparations are also available such as the sachets you find packed in electrical goods. I have seen a website which suggested calcium chloride chips which are used in pool maintenance works apparently well but havent tried it. hope it helps. that musty smell is overpowering at times. Linda ----- Original Message ----- : "Colleen Robinson" <ceedeed@dodo.com.au> To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings > To anyone on the list. > > I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. > > We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. > > They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been > cared for. > > Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes > to eradicate this odour. > > Any advise will be gratefully accepted. > > Colleen. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Colleen, you could try putting carb soda in a container in the boxes, it seems to absorb most smells. Regards, Lyndell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Robinson" <ceedeed@dodo.com.au> To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Storage old newspaper clippings > To anyone on the list. > > I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. > > We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. > > They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been > cared for. > > Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes > to eradicate this odour. > > Any advise will be gratefully accepted. > > Colleen. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/17/10 06:03:00

To anyone on the list. I have joined a local, fairly new, Heritage Group. We have a collection of old newpapers, and clippings. They have that very musty smell common to newspapers that have not been cared for. Does anyone have any clues of what we should do to their storage box/boxes to eradicate this odour. Any advise will be gratefully accepted. Colleen.

Hi everyone - just a reminder for your diaries that there are lots of activities happening in and around the Geelong area during this April weekend. Brochures full of details of all open heritage sites, re-enactments etc are available at the Geelong Heritage Centre, Geelong Libraries etc. regards, Pam Jennings A couple of main events for family historians are: Saturday 17 April 2010:Geelong Heritage Centre - Open Day: - open to visitors from 9.30 am to 5.00 pm. A display of historic collection items and images of Geelong in 1910 will be on display;Plus - Free Seminar Program: Public Record Office Victoria and the Geelong Heritage Centre invite you to a program of free seminars aimed at family and local historians interested in researching and preserving their own heritage. Session 1 10.00 – 10.45 am General introduction to Public Record Office Victoria (PROV) Session 2 11.00 am – 12.30 pm How to use Access the Collection – PROV’s online catalogue Session 3 1.30 – 5.00 pm Pixel Perfect! Looking after your digital photographs Location: Geelong Heritage Centre, 51 Little Malop Street (between Gheringhap and Fenwick Streets), (above the Geelong Regional Library in Johnstone's Park) Geelong 3220 Attendance at all 3 sessions is free but places are strictly limited. You must RSVP by 9 April 2010 to attend one of these sessions. You may attend any combination of sessions that interest you (places permitting). To place your booking, telephone PROV (03) 9348 5600 or email ask.prov@prov.vic.gov.au Sunday 18th April: Heritage Festival EXPO: State Office Building, 30-38 Lt Malop St. Geelong; FREE entry - displays, information, book sales from various local heritage Groups.

Hi Folks, My apologies for cross-posting to three lists but they are all relevant. Nell HEATH (nee SPENCER) - a wonderful volunteer to our projects and a very dear friend - passed away after a short illness last Saturday night. Nell will be sadly missed by all who knew her and especially her family - Bill, Treena and Frostie. The funeral is at 2.00 pm this Friday 19th March at the Ocean Grove Uniting Church. A gathering will be held immediately after the service in the church hall next door. Regards ....... Susie Zada

I have a query for a lady I met at the Bendigo Family Expo yesterday: - anyone with connections to a HOLDEN/HOLDING family at Sutherland's Creek could they contact Jeannie Lister please ronjeannielister@westnet.com.au thanks, Pam Jennings

A couple of years ago a very helpful person sent me lots of information on the Grant family. Unfortunately I've carefully filed it and now can't find it. I have been lent photos of various Teesdale school & community groups which have members of the Grant family in them, some were taken by Bert Grant. I would love to hear from any one connected with the Grant family. Thank you Dianne Hughes Teesdale

Anyone interested in Melton bits and pieces? Treasury Correspondence. VPRS 1207/P00 Unit 3 item 56/R 726 The inhabitants of Melton seek to have a post office and a postmaster Jan 1856 34 signatories, suggest Mr Augustus SHIBLER, Melton storekeeper, as P.Master. Regards Ada

Hi Alwynne - I don't have your email but welcome to Geelong region! The medal you spoke of the other evening - perhaps it was 100 years celebration of Seperation from NSW???? Just a thought! regards, Pam Jennings