Hi there I was wondering if anyone could check on a death for John Edward Smith who married Anne Elizabeth Friday in 1861 in Victoria - if his parents are noted that would be good as I do not know who they were. With thanks. Dennis Schinkel

Dennis a T H Smith Steiglitz appears in an advert 16 march 1875 in The Argus,Melbourne and on 18th, march M U I O O F, WANTED DOCTOR for the Steiglitz district, apply T H Smith Steiglitz. may or may not help. Linda

Hi Dennis, Have you checked the entries in the G&D Directories database? A rough count but looks like 11 SMITH entries for Steiglitz. http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/databases/gddir Also, it really helps those who would like to reply by giving some sort of timeframe. Regards ....... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Schinkel Sent: Monday, 12 April 2010 7:28 AM To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Subject: [GEELONG] smith Hi there I may be stretching the friendship with this request. I have two Smith brothers, one married to Annania Schinkel who had children in Daylesford and Steiglitz area, there was another brother, name unknown by me who had children in the same areas at the same time, is anyone able to help me out? With thanks. Dennis Schinkel

sorry dennis, just re read it and you may need to supply parents info approx birthdates etc to track down someone smith if you dont know their first name.I dont like the chances but you never know. whats the one you do know? Linda

dennis do you have any appox dates ? it would help with knowing where to look linda

Susie Thanks for your reply and information. I received a reply from Tony Scott which was very helpful. If I need any further advise I will be in touch. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@ncable.net.au> To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] STEIGLITZ > Hi Dennis, > > There isn't a Steiglitz Genealogy Society - there is a Steiglitz > Historical > Society and as Pam said their address is a PO Box in Yarraville. > > These groups are usually listed on our Geelong & District Resources web > page > at ... > > http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/geelong/research/gdresc > > The Geelong Family History Group are possibly your best option - why don't > you tell us what you're looking for and that way we can let you know your > best avenue. > > There is a LOT of Steiglitz people / information in our various Geelong & > District databases and a LOT of directories for Steiglitz thanks to a > wonderful volunteer with interests in that area. > > http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/databases > > Regards ........ Susie Z > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dennis > Schinkel > Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 9:03 AM > To: ask.prov@dvc.vic.gov.au; aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GEELONG] STEIGLITZ > > Hi there > > Does anyone have an address that would enable me to contact the Steiglitz > Genealogy Society? > > Dennis Schinkel > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2803 - Release Date: 04/10/10 18:32:00

Hi there I may be stretching the friendship with this request. I have two Smith brothers, one married to Annania Schinkel who had children in Daylesford and Steiglitz area, there was another brother, name unknown by me who had children in the same areas at the same time, is anyone able to help me out? With thanks. Dennis Schinkel

Hi Dennis, There isn't a Steiglitz Genealogy Society - there is a Steiglitz Historical Society and as Pam said their address is a PO Box in Yarraville. These groups are usually listed on our Geelong & District Resources web page at ... http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/geelong/research/gdresc The Geelong Family History Group are possibly your best option - why don't you tell us what you're looking for and that way we can let you know your best avenue. There is a LOT of Steiglitz people / information in our various Geelong & District databases and a LOT of directories for Steiglitz thanks to a wonderful volunteer with interests in that area. http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/databases Regards ........ Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Schinkel Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 9:03 AM To: ask.prov@dvc.vic.gov.au; aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Subject: [GEELONG] STEIGLITZ Hi there Does anyone have an address that would enable me to contact the Steiglitz Genealogy Society? Dennis Schinkel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an address of PO Box 187, Yarraville 3013 but this may not be current. I think they have a webpage so try that first. regards, Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Schinkel" <dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com> To: <ask.prov@dvc.vic.gov.au>; <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [GEELONG] STEIGLITZ > Hi there > > Does anyone have an address that would enable me to contact the Steiglitz > Genealogy Society? > > Dennis Schinkel > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there Does anyone have an address that would enable me to contact the Steiglitz Genealogy Society? Dennis Schinkel

Hi Listers, Would anyone have any information or connection to the Ahern family who arrived at Geelong aboard the 'Thetis' in 1842. There were Bridget, Ellen, Terence and Margaret(Mary?). My direct ancestor is Bridget who married Hugh Fitzpatrick in 1845 at St Mary of the Angels. Thanks Loretta

Hi Chuck, I've changed the subject line because the Digest subject line is most confusing and causes the system to "multiply" the messages! Just a couple of corrections - the original printed directory probably had Marabool Street but it's actually Moorabool Street. You also asked "Why did the family leave Geelong just at the height of the gold rush?" The gold rush didn't start until mid 1851 so it definitely hadn't started here. Perhaps he'd read about the gold rush in the US and thought he'd pursue that? Consider this as a possibility - Argus newspaper 10 Oct 1849, 13 Oct 1849, 17 Oct 1849 and 19 Oct 1849 ... Schooner 'Marian Watson' sailed for San Francisco, California - passenger included Mr T MAY ?? - departed Sydney. This doesn't fit with a reference to Thomas MAY (Baker) of South Geelong - victim of assault - 14 Dec 1849 but perhaps that's a typo because Mrs Sarah MAY was before the court 31 Oct 1848. You would need to get someone to check the original entries in the newspapers to confirm if those dates are correct. The local reference to Thomas MAY, dwelling house, Moorabool street was 12 Apr 1849 [Geelong Advertiser - Electoral List] And looking further, unless there are two Thomas MAYs, the 1849 entry may not be a typo ... Thomas MAY, householder, Wallace Street (there is a Wallace Street in South Geelong) - 18 Apr 1850 [Geelong Advertiser - Electoral List] Thomas MAY, Marabool street, Geelong - 29 Jun 1849 [Argus - Electoral List] At the time you mentioned, there was a LOT of travelling / migration to and from New Zealand and to and from the US. Not sure if that all helps or confuses! Regards ......... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chuck May Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2010 2:03 AM To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 Not unless you can figure out where my Thomas MAY came from and how/why they went to New York. This has had me seriously stumped for decades now, and I suspect I am seriously hampered by the distance from Massachusetts to Melbourne <g>.

Hi, Chuck Have you tried ships crew lists? I had one ancestor come from a whaling ship from New Bedford, Mass', USA, another from Cornwell,his family were shipwrights and shipbuilders. Cheers Glen On Sun, Apr 4th, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chuck May <ChuckMay@may-engineering.com> wrote: > Not unless you can figure out where my Thomas MAY came from and > how/why they > went to New York. This has had me seriously stumped for decades now, > and I > suspect I am seriously hampered by the distance from Massachusetts > to > Melbourne <g>. > > Here's the short story on him: > > Thomas MAY was born about 1806 somewhere in the British Empire. > Though I > can't find him in any convict or assisted immigrant lists, in 1843 he > was in > Melbourne, and married Sarah Ann CLUBB (an assisted immigrant about > whom I > have a relatively good picture) in St James Church. In 1845 he was a > baker > in Geelong and in 1849 the family probably lived at Marabool Street. > There > were three children: Thomas Melbourne MAY (1845 in Melbourne), Sarah > Ann MAY > (probably about 1849 in Geelong), and Robert MAY (1846 in Geelong, > died 1850 > at sea). The marriage was at least somewhat troubled, as "Wild and > Wondrous > Women" indicates that the couple appeared on Geelong police blotters > with > complaints of mutual abuse and drunkenness. > > In December 1850 the entire family (less Robert, who died that > April) > arrived in New York on a ship from London (since Robert died April > 14th "at > sea", I assume the departure from Australia was before the middle of > April > 1850). Some time between then and 1861 Thomas dropped from sight > under > circumstances which prompted the family (as shown in Thomas Melbourne > MAY's > letters from 1861) to concoct a story of him having been lost at sea > (obviously false, since he shows in the passenger list of > "Devonshire" in > 1850). > > Sarah Ann (CLUBB) MAY re-married in New York before 1866. Sarah Ann > MAY > eventually married, possibly to someone named Linford. Thomas > Melbourne MAY > became my Great-Great-Grandfather. > > The obvious questions are: > Where did Thomas come from? > When and how did he arrive in Australia? > Why did the family leave Geelong just at the height of the gold > rush? > How did they get the resources to make the journey? (Sarah's family > in > London would not have had the resources to help). > Why did they choose New York as a destination? > What happened to Thomas between 1850 and 1861? > > Sorry to take up so much bandwidth, but this has been a real stumper > for me > for a long time. > Thanks. > > Chuck May > Pittsfield, Massachusetts, USA > ChuckMay@may-engineering.com > http://www.may-engineering.com > > > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:31:26 +1000 > > From: "ROSALYN SMAILL" <rstruttonsmaill@bigpond.com> > > > > Hi Chuck, > > What a pity. Is there anything else I can do to help? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > >

Hi Dennis http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/contacts/ This site gives you the option of ask a librarian or chat live. Karen On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Dennis Schinkel <dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com> wrote: > Karen > > Thanks for taking the time to reply.  Do you have an email address for La > Trobe? > > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Hodges" <rowantreek@gmail.com> > To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wages Books > > >> Hi Dennis >> >> If he owned a property you should check to see if the descendant >> lodged any of the old property records with La Trobe; that might >> include wages.  Try searching the catalogue for his name or the >> property name. >> >> Karen >> >>> Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took >>> children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the >>> 1870's ? >>> >>> Dennis Schinkel >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >> http://zades.com.au >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2786 - Release Date: 04/02/10 > 18:32:00 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took >> children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the >> 1870's ?" Hello, I saw this post with a query about P Lalor. I have been trying to trace 3 Spero children who were in the orphanage. One was apprenticed to P Lalor. I have not been able to determine their mothers name or what happened to the children. I have checked BDM records and they don't appear to exist. Joanne. SPERO Louis 137 6 Male Victoria September 11, 1867 July 18 ,1873 Father Austrian, catholic, Fisherman drowned Mother Da? No religion Apprenticed to Mr. P. LALOR SPERO Nicholas 138 5 Male Victoria September 11, 1867 August 14, 1873 Father Austrian, catholic, Fisherman drowned Mother Da? No religion Returned to Mother SPERO Richard 139 2 Male Victoria September 11, 1867 August 14, 1873 Father Austrian, catholic, Fisherman drowned Mother Da? No religion Returned to Mother On 3 April 2010 16:31, <aus-vic-geelong-district-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wages Books (Dennis Schinkel) > 2. Re: St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community (ROSALYN SMAILL) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:32:40 -0800 > From: "Dennis Schinkel" <dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wages Books > To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5342A59D395A49E383349CC58BA5D7D7@ACERTower> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Karen > > Thanks for taking the time to reply. Do you have an email address for La > Trobe? > > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Hodges" <rowantreek@gmail.com> > To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wages Books > > > > Hi Dennis > > > > If he owned a property you should check to see if the descendant > > lodged any of the old property records with La Trobe; that might > > include wages. Try searching the catalogue for his name or the > > property name. > > > > Karen > > > >> Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took > >> children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the > >> 1870's ? > >> > >> Dennis Schinkel > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > > http://zades.com.au > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2786 - Release Date: 04/02/10 > 18:32:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:31:26 +1000 > From: "ROSALYN SMAILL" <rstruttonsmaill@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community > To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EA4B0BA27768416DB1649F269C7B8D86@Shimon> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Chuck, > What a pity. Is there anything else I can do to help? > > Rosalyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chuck May > To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community > > > Thanks for the quick response. That is not my Thomas, though, but at least > it's one more lead eliminated. > > My Thomas MAY was born about 1806 and married Sarah Ann CLUBB in 1843 in > St > James Church, Melbourne. He lived in Marabool Street in Geelong in 1849, > but > went to New York via London in late 1850. > > Chuck May > Pittsfield MA > ChuckMay@may-engineering.com > http://www.may-engineering.com > > From: "ROSALYN SMAILL" <rstruttonsmaill@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community > > Hi Chuck, > This is the entry: > > MAY, Stephen b:c1800 d:1877 occ:bricklayer res:pre-parish in Glg > (Geelong), > Birregurra m. SAG (St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, 1840 Anne FARRELL > pars: > Martin/Mary b:c1820 KIK (Co. Kilkenny) d:1876 arr: 1840 "Andromache". > Chn: Samuel (1841- ) Mary Anne (1843 - ) Stephen (1845 - ) Thomas > (1847-1849) Elizabeth (1849 - ) William James (1851 - ). > > I trust that this is helpful. Happy Easter. > > Rosalyn > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT list administrator, send an email > to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT mailing list, send an > email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 > ******************************************************* > -- Joanne

Hi Dennis If he owned a property you should check to see if the descendant lodged any of the old property records with La Trobe; that might include wages. Try searching the catalogue for his name or the property name. Karen > Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the 1870's ? > > Dennis Schinkel

And using Google Maps searching for ... 130 little malop street mall, geelong Then drag the little "man" to just west of the Centreway Arcade and you'll find the façade of the lovely old "Richardson's Market"! Regards ....... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-geelong-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susie Zada Sent: Saturday, 3 April 2010 1:54 PM To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Richardson's Market Geelong Hi Folks, The original building is still there - it was called the Exchange Building and is on the south side 130-138 Little Malop Street. Gwen and co are correct - variously called Centrepoint Arcade, Centreway Arcade, Exchange Arcade etc. In the "old days" of course the building was facing Market Square. Regards ........ Susie Z

Karen Thanks for taking the time to reply. Do you have an email address for La Trobe? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hodges" <rowantreek@gmail.com> To: <aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wages Books > Hi Dennis > > If he owned a property you should check to see if the descendant > lodged any of the old property records with La Trobe; that might > include wages. Try searching the catalogue for his name or the > property name. > > Karen > >> Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took >> children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the >> 1870's ? >> >> Dennis Schinkel > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2786 - Release Date: 04/02/10 18:32:00

Hi Chuck, What a pity. Is there anything else I can do to help? Rosalyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck May To: aus-vic-geelong-district@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community Thanks for the quick response. That is not my Thomas, though, but at least it's one more lead eliminated. My Thomas MAY was born about 1806 and married Sarah Ann CLUBB in 1843 in St James Church, Melbourne. He lived in Marabool Street in Geelong in 1849, but went to New York via London in late 1850. Chuck May Pittsfield MA ChuckMay@may-engineering.com http://www.may-engineering.com From: "ROSALYN SMAILL" <rstruttonsmaill@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [GEELONG] St Mary's Geelong: It's Founding Community Hi Chuck, This is the entry: MAY, Stephen b:c1800 d:1877 occ:bricklayer res:pre-parish in Glg (Geelong), Birregurra m. SAG (St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, 1840 Anne FARRELL pars: Martin/Mary b:c1820 KIK (Co. Kilkenny) d:1876 arr: 1840 "Andromache". Chn: Samuel (1841- ) Mary Anne (1843 - ) Stephen (1845 - ) Thomas (1847-1849) Elizabeth (1849 - ) William James (1851 - ). I trust that this is helpful. Happy Easter. Rosalyn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone know, if any Wages Books exist for Mr. P. Lalor who took children from St. Augustines Orphange to work on his property in the 1870's ? Dennis Schinkel