Hi Jacqueline Thank you for your reply my greats were John & Catherine [McNicol] ROBERTSON & their 6 children /Maria Clark/Catherine Jane /Euphemia Dora /Wilhelmina Campbell/ Eva &John Duncan I think Archibald Campbell [ no7] was born in Geelong or Carlton haven't found him yet/ My ggf was a shipwright with BISNCo and listed as that on his death cert.1918 I think they left Brisbane post1889 and were in Geelong pre 1894 that about as much as I know so any info you can find would be greatly appreciated regards Deirdre deirdremc@bigpond.com

Many thanks! Cheers, Alwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grahame & Rosslyn Thom" <grthom@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Visiting Australia by Ship > Hi Alwynne > > For the answers to any general questions like this a good starting point is > Nick Vine Hall's book Tracing your family history in Australia, 3rd edition, > which should be held by any good public library. If not ask them to get it. > > cheers > > Grahame > > on 20/8/03 4:41 PM, alwynne mackie at alwynnem@melbpc.org.au wrote: > > > I posted this message in the soc.gen.ausnz newsgroup, but got no reply, so I > > thought I would ask the wise people at this list. > > The question is, how does one look for the shipping details of someone who > > came to australia around 1860, not as an immigrant, but simply to visit with > > family? > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Many thanks, > > Alwynne > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > >

Many thanks, Ada. Cheers, Alwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Visiting Australia by Ship > Hello Alwynne, > > One would expect to find them on the shipping indexes of whatever state > they landed in. Fare paying passengers were not asked their reason for > going to Australia. There must have been many hundreds (thousands?) who > just came for a visit, or on their way to another country. Just because > they are listed does not automatically mean that they were immigrating. > > Regards, Ada > > At 16:41 20-08-03 +1000, you wrote: > >I posted this message in the soc.gen.ausnz newsgroup, but got no reply, so I > >thought I would ask the wise people at this list. > >The question is, how does one look for the shipping details of someone who > >came to australia around 1860, not as an immigrant, but simply to visit with > >family? > >Any help would be much appreciated. > >Many thanks, > >Alwynne > > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > regards, > Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia > formerly Ackerly DocuSearch > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

Hello Robyn, shows born about 1824. No parentage given. That's the sum of my knowledge. The quickest way to get exile information is from "Convicts of the Port Phillip District" by Keith M Clark. He's gathered all the information together which is available in several places, passenger lists, pardons granted, etc., checked it, and put it all together alphabetically. Actually, I'm surprised your man was put to matmaking, generally those put to this activity were troublesome, or could not read or write. As he could do the latter, we must presume he came into the former category. Whereas other trades had some "communal" activity, the looms used by the matmakers were set up in their cells and worked in daylight hours in solitude. They were partly dismantled when work ended and moved to allow access to a bed. No chance to lie down on the job! In the morning the bed was packed away and the loom, which took up most of the cell, was reassembled and set up for work. You might also like to read "The Pentonvillians" by Ian Wynd. All old fashioned ordinary reading, no internet, sorry. Regards Ada At 18:09 20-08-03 +1000, you wrote: >hi ada, you are quite right. i was told he was on an 'exile ship'. sorry, >first of all my name is robyndehood, or robyn shaw. i can't believe it did >not sign my email sorry.....he learned mat making in pentonville prison. he >was charged with stealing as a servant. he was sent to geelong. mary met >him later and they married. this all seems to fit in with your man. thank >you so much for that. i guess i can get a film with this on??. what i >really want to know, if possible, is his parents. any idea of his age at >all. could we say 20ish. if he was a soldier, and porter and convicted in >1846, he must have been at least 20ish. i very much appreciate your advice >and assistance. robyndehood. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Churches : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Hi Alwynne For the answers to any general questions like this a good starting point is Nick Vine Hall's book Tracing your family history in Australia, 3rd edition, which should be held by any good public library. If not ask them to get it. cheers Grahame on 20/8/03 4:41 PM, alwynne mackie at alwynnem@melbpc.org.au wrote: > I posted this message in the soc.gen.ausnz newsgroup, but got no reply, so I > thought I would ask the wise people at this list. > The question is, how does one look for the shipping details of someone who > came to australia around 1860, not as an immigrant, but simply to visit with > family? > Any help would be much appreciated. > Many thanks, > Alwynne > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hello Do any listers have the book: "Australia Felix : A miscellany from the Geelong Advertiser 1840 - 1850"? I was wondering if someone could do a lookup for me on page 75 (Travers) please. Many thanks Simon

Hi Deirdre, I'm a member of Convictions Australian Shipping so if you'd like to give me the names your looking for I'll have a look for you. To those who aren't familiar with Convictions....... to become a member, you have to contribute to the site ie. passenger list/s and various other subjects of interest. You need to contact the list owner who will send you a template. It's an interesting site and being a member allows you access to searchable passenger lists etc. There are still many ships named that don't have passenger lists and it would be great if more people contributed. Regards Jackie in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:17 AM Subject: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-D Digest V03 #215

Hi List, Anybody want a copy of following just call: Births District of Steiglitz 1899: Marjorie Annie MACPHERSON, b 3 Sept, father Archibald mother Rhoda Edith Evelyn EDWARDS, b 27 Aug, father William, mother Mary Elizabeth Francis Clyde RUDOLPH. b 23 Sept, father Frank, mother Eliza. Elais(?) May SUGG, b 12 November, father James, mother Maud. Marriages in Geelong 1858: 10 March, Donald BEATON and Mary MARTIN both born Inverness shire. 12 march, James THOMPSON b Armagh and Jane CROFT b Glengarry. Russ

Dear Robyn That is what we are for- to help each other. Alot of my "bricks" in my wall have been removed from help of fellow listers. 2 years research for one of my lines was fruitless, to find out this week our gr grandfather wasn't a figment of our imagination. Good Luck from a fellow Suffolk descendant, Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Re Suffolk :Was: Assisted Immigrants > Thank you so much for the map. It was Woodbridge....Woodbridge...hurray! > now, all i need is Edward Evans mum and dad....let us dream. I am on the > way. Thank you so much for the help given to me for Edward Evans. I have > had so much trouble with this fellow. He had a rough start here, but ended > up with a family of good looking and > ineall....einttrlll...intell...er...brainy children. > His daughter Sarah married Henry Spiers/Speirs/Spears/Speers. They had an > incredible daughter also called Sarah. She married Herbert Shaw, and THEY > had my wonderful husband, Malcolm in 1932....crawl, grovel..well my birthday > IS coming up soon. robyndehood. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Campbell" <neils1@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Re Suffolk :Was: Assisted Immigrants > > > > Sorry fellow listers- > > tried to copy a map, only to be told not to send map. > > try site- > > www.suffolk.org.uk/tourism/map6.html > > > > Fran > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Thank you so much for the map. It was Woodbridge....Woodbridge...hurray! now, all i need is Edward Evans mum and dad....let us dream. I am on the way. Thank you so much for the help given to me for Edward Evans. I have had so much trouble with this fellow. He had a rough start here, but ended up with a family of good looking and ineall....einttrlll...intell...er...brainy children. His daughter Sarah married Henry Spiers/Speirs/Spears/Speers. They had an incredible daughter also called Sarah. She married Herbert Shaw, and THEY had my wonderful husband, Malcolm in 1932....crawl, grovel..well my birthday IS coming up soon. robyndehood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Campbell" <neils1@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Re Suffolk :Was: Assisted Immigrants > Sorry fellow listers- > tried to copy a map, only to be told not to send map. > try site- > www.suffolk.org.uk/tourism/map6.html > > Fran > ----- Original Message -----

hi ada, you are quite right. i was told he was on an 'exile ship'. sorry, first of all my name is robyndehood, or robyn shaw. i can't believe it did not sign my email sorry.....he learned mat making in pentonville prison. he was charged with stealing as a servant. he was sent to geelong. mary met him later and they married. this all seems to fit in with your man. thank you so much for that. i guess i can get a film with this on??. what i really want to know, if possible, is his parents. any idea of his age at all. could we say 20ish. if he was a soldier, and porter and convicted in 1846, he must have been at least 20ish. i very much appreciate your advice and assistance. robyndehood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Assisted Immigrants > Hello ? (name not given) > > I usually do not reply to messages without a proper name, but have decided > to reply this once. > > If your Edward EVANS is, in fact, the Edward who arrived on the "Anna > > > Edward was convicted of larceny by a "servant in a dwelling house", > convicted in London at the central criminal court 24 Sep 1846, sent on to

Hello Alwynne, One would expect to find them on the shipping indexes of whatever state they landed in. Fare paying passengers were not asked their reason for going to Australia. There must have been many hundreds (thousands?) who just came for a visit, or on their way to another country. Just because they are listed does not automatically mean that they were immigrating. Regards, Ada At 16:41 20-08-03 +1000, you wrote: >I posted this message in the soc.gen.ausnz newsgroup, but got no reply, so I >thought I would ask the wise people at this list. >The question is, how does one look for the shipping details of someone who >came to australia around 1860, not as an immigrant, but simply to visit with >family? >Any help would be much appreciated. >Many thanks, >Alwynne > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

I posted this message in the soc.gen.ausnz newsgroup, but got no reply, so I thought I would ask the wise people at this list. The question is, how does one look for the shipping details of someone who came to australia around 1860, not as an immigrant, but simply to visit with family? Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Alwynne

Hello everyone This is my first posting so I will list the names I am interested in. MICHAEL QUIRK , Denis, Michael and Grace COSTIGAN who I believe all arrived in victoria in 1841 on the ship Enmore. Michael Quirk and Grace Costigan were married at Geelong's RC St Mary of the Angels church in `1846. They lived near Mt Moriac until 1861 farming the land. I believe Michael Quirk may have been an inn-keeper at Mt Moriac earlier. I would love to hear from anyone who thinks they may belong to the Costigan or Quirk families and various descendants. Does anyone know if the inn at Mt Moriac still exists or is it known exactly where it was? Thank you Vicki

Hi, I'm new to this search for ancestry and am looking for information regarding the Hurley family (my maiden name). What I do know - My father's name is Thomas Edmund Russell Hurley My mother's name is Eileen Ivy Ada Hurley (nee Baker) My grandfather's name (I think) was Thomas Joseph Hurley - he was a doctor in Geelong during 1900's up to around 1950. My grandmother's name was Grace Hurley My uncle's name was/is (not sure if alive) John Hurley He had three daughters Desiree, Tatiana and Michelle My father and my uncle went to Geelong Grammar (Timbertop I think) as boarders. In later years my grandmother moved to Hawthorn in Melbourne in Cristobel Crescent. I think there was a street named Hurley after my family, I'm not sure. Any information would be greatly appreciated as my father will give me very little information. Kind Regards Kerry Tennant (nee Hurley)

Hello ? (name not given) I usually do not reply to messages without a proper name, but have decided to reply this once. If your Edward EVANS is, in fact, the Edward who arrived on the "Anna Maria", then he was an "exile". Exiles were a new class of convict, given a year in prison, first in solitary, and then learning a trade (some still in solitary, some allowed to work in groups), they were then placed on a ship for Australia (in his case, for Port Phillip) and on arrival were issued with a conditional pardon. They were free to live and work in Port Phillip, but could not return to England until the expiry of their sentence, hence the name "exile". Now, so you can test the voracity of the "pregnant, born/died on board story: Edward was convicted of larceny by a "servant in a dwelling house", convicted in London at the central criminal court 24 Sep 1846, sent on to Pentonville prison (where trade training was given) 2 Nov 1846 where he was taught the trade of "rug and mat maker". His previous callings were "soldier and porter". He then went on board the "Anna Maria", arriving Geelong 23 Jun 1849. So if this is your man, he had no access to friends from at least 24 Sept 1846 to 23 Jun 1849. He was listed as "single, could read and write" That's all the information here. The second passenger listing, the "disposal" listing, which showed who the man was engaged to work for, and his wages, was "sent on to Sydney head office" before it could be copied for the Port Phillip records. You may have some luck on the NSW records. Regards, Ada At 09:22 19-08-03 +1000, you wrote: >The Geelong connection..... story....Edward Evans came from Suffolk, place >starting with W, whiteman or something (This is the story mind...) >No other details. Left behind his 'with child' Mary Tremayne in Cornwall. >She with her family came out here to make an honest woman of herself. Child >born and died before they married. > She did find him at Geelong.Where Wangaratta now stands. Sorry, but Geelong and Wangaratta are in Southern and Northern Victoria. > Mary, >pregnant to Edward Evans, comes to Oz on the Lysanda I think we have shown that is impossible... they may have met, coupled, in Victoria, Port Phillip and then: >he married then in December in Melbourne to Mary Tremayne. >Digger index shows them marrying and the death of Mary Tremayne Evans the >child. Was only a few days old. > robyndehood. > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

To all the listers that tried to help me, well I found it wriiten on an advert of a attending marriage. It was a house name, at 7 Belfast Street, Newtown. Thanks again Paulette

Hi Paulette, Ah - that explains it - I was looking for TAYLORs buried at Drysdale. James Inglis BENNETT and Ellen Louise REYNOLDS were both married twice and their siblings and children ended up marrying into just about every pioneer family on the Peninsula! Are you able to send me a scanned copy of the photo? You would need to send it direct to me and not via the list which doesn't allow attachments. Two reasons for the request - if we don't already have it, the Bellarine Historical Society would be delighted to add it to our photo archives, and if we do already have it, then we may have more information on file as to where it was taken. As you're probably aware, a LOT of houses had names - one project I'd love to do is record ALL the house names in the area from various sources, but there are other higher priority projects at the moment :-( ... always the way! Anyway, if you can send a copy, we might be able to pin down Lumeah. Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> > My husband's rellies that were in the photo were:- > James Bennett, wife Ellen Louise (Lou) nee Reynolds (my husbands grand > aunt) > and a couple of other people. > Paulette

Hi Susie, My husband's rellies that were in the photo were:- James Bennett, wife Ellen Louise (Lou) nee Reynolds (my husbands grand aunt) and a couple of other people. Paulette

Sorry fellow listers- tried to copy a map, only to be told not to send map. try site- www.suffolk.org.uk/tourism/map6.html Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Whitehand" <wht4hnd@vicnet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Re Suffolk :Was: Assisted Immigrants > Hi Robyn > Not much help however suggest that the Suffolk Location could well be > Whitton (on the North West outskirts of Ipswich ) East Suffolk. Eng. > bfn > John > > mrshaw@bigpond.com wrote: > > The Geelong connection..... story....Edward Evans came from Suffolk, place > > starting with W, whiteman or something (This is the story mind...) > > No other details. Left behind his 'with child' Mary Tremayne in Cornwall. > > She with her family came out here to make an honest woman of herself. Child > > born and died before they married. < much editing > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Towns and Regions : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm > > > > . > > > > > -- > John Whitehand > Melbourne; AUSTRALIA > +61(0)3 93145307 > http://www.vicnet.net.au/~whitehaj/welcome.htm > > Ambition is ultimately destructive--There's only room for ONE "at the top." > *** Co-operation Achieves ~ Competition destroys ! *** > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > >