Unfortunately it was a one off and the Archdeacon doesn't like looking up records as he feels he has enough to do all ready. I was going to suggest you e-mail Coleen Jones at the Heritage Centre as they have a lot of the Christ Church marriages, but unfortunately Coleen is in hospital. So if you can give me the information off list I will see what I can do for you Dianne Hughes

Hi Dorothy, Just had a quick look at the digger indexes: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: DEVLIN Given Names: Elizabeth Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: George Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane KEIG Age: Sex: Birth Place: BARR Death Place: Year: 1881 Reg Number: 14078 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: WARD Given Names: Elizth Father: Devlin George Mother: Jane KEIG Death Place: SWAN HILL Age: 54 Age Code: Year: 1935 Reg Number: 18809 Event: D If you'd like me to do some other look ups for you, contact me directly at greenthumbs@bigpond.com Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell & Dorothy Devlin" <rustydoor@netspace.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Devlin -,Ward families > I am researching the Elizabeth Devlin who married a Mr. Ward at Queenscliff. I believe Elizabeth was born in 1881 and died 1935 and Mr Ward was born in approx. 1865. > Does anyone have any clues please? > > Dorothy. > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong and District web site : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ > >

I am researching the Elizabeth Devlin who married a Mr. Ward at Queenscliff. I believe Elizabeth was born in 1881 and died 1935 and Mr Ward was born in approx. 1865. Does anyone have any clues please? Dorothy.

Hi Mary, There does not appear to be a plaque for Herbert And Florence Adams at Christ Church, would you be confusing this church with the Church of Christ in Geelong? Regards, Dorothy

Hi Susie Can you tell me where I can find the shipping list VDL to Victoria, I am looking for the arrival into Victoria of Frederick Allen, who was sent to VDL, and Majory Luke. They were married in Geelong in 1845. As I cannot find Majory on any shipping list She may have first came to VDL first. thanks Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] HANCOCK > Hi Paulette, > > Don't spend too much time looking at the PRO Vic shipping as that does not > include people arriving in Vic from Van Diemens Land. > > The Bellarine Historical Society has a heap of information on the HANCOCKs > from our own records as well as different bits submitted by descendants. > According to what I have here, William HANCOCK and Rebecca STANNARD were > both on the Royal George which arrived in Hobart 5th February 1837. They > were married in Hobart 11th September 1837. > > I have Mary Jane's birth as 16th April 1838 - think that looks like a > shotgun job! <vbg> but I'm wondering if perhaps the date you have for > William Henry might be a baptism date? I've got 17th February 1841. Or > else we have the wrong date! > > William, Rebecca and Mary Jane came to Vic from VDL on the Charlotte in > 1839 - I haven't followed up the date but the Charlotte did many trips in > 1839 between Launceston and Melbourne. > > Hope that helps ....... Susie Z

Dorothy Marriage of parents of Elizabeth: DEVLIN, George CM 247013 Marriage Spouse: KEIG, Jane Marriage Place: Geelong Reg Year: 1869 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 3864 Children born to George and Jane Keig other than Elizabeth as follows, there may have been more my CD only covers to 1888: DEVLIN, George Henry CB 527131 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Quee Reg Year: 1870 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 18445 DEVLIN, Joseph James CB 527186 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Catu Reg Year: 1879 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 7939 DEVLIN, Katherine Jane CB 527189 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Queensclif Reg Year: 1874 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 18371 DEVLIN, Maggy CB 527201 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Janet Event Place: Barr Reg Year: 1882 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 20833 DEVLIN, Mary Anne CB 527231 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Bellarine Reg Year: 1877 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 10873 DEVLIN, Robert CB 527280 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Barr Reg Year: 1884 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 22314 DEVLIN, Thomas CB 527307 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Barr Reg Year: 1887 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 621 DEVLIN, William John CB 527339 Birth Father: George Mother: Keig Jane Event Place: Quee Reg Year: 1872 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 11323 Any idea what Mr Ward's christian name was? Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell & Dorothy Devlin" <rustydoor@netspace.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Devlin -,Ward families > I am researching the Elizabeth Devlin who married a Mr. Ward at Queenscliff. I believe Elizabeth was born in 1881 and died 1935 and Mr Ward was born in approx. 1865. > Does anyone have any clues please? > > Dorothy. > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong and District web site : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ >

Hi Folks, A little while back there was some discussion (by Peter, Carollyn, Mary, John & others) of a dairy in Roslyn Road, Belmont. Today I found a "Holiday and Business Guide to Geelong and District" - apparently produced about 1950 (hand-written on front cover). p.26 - photograph of "Riverview Dairy - Roslyn Road, Belmont - where Tomkins Pure Milk is Bottled" p.27 - advertisement of Tomkins' Pastuerised Milk - Riverview Dairy etc. Obviously it's more recent and not back to the time of swamps / lake etc. but if this is the place you were interested in, Peter, and would like a copy, let me know. Regards ......... Susie Z

Hi Paulette, Don't spend too much time looking at the PRO Vic shipping as that does not include people arriving in Vic from Van Diemens Land. The Bellarine Historical Society has a heap of information on the HANCOCKs from our own records as well as different bits submitted by descendants. According to what I have here, William HANCOCK and Rebecca STANNARD were both on the Royal George which arrived in Hobart 5th February 1837. They were married in Hobart 11th September 1837. I have Mary Jane's birth as 16th April 1838 - think that looks like a shotgun job! <vbg> but I'm wondering if perhaps the date you have for William Henry might be a baptism date? I've got 17th February 1841. Or else we have the wrong date! William, Rebecca and Mary Jane came to Vic from VDL on the Charlotte in 1839 - I haven't followed up the date but the Charlotte did many trips in 1839 between Launceston and Melbourne. Hope that helps ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: [GEELONG] HANCOCK > Hi Listers, > Can someone point me in the right direction. > > Husbands gr grandparents. > Emmaline HANCOCK married Thomas Skepper Reynolds 13 Aug 1867 at Drysdale. > > What I'm trying to find out is, Emmaline parents William HANCOCK & Rebecca > STANNARD came to Geelong from Launceston ????, Tasmania between April 1838 > the birthdate of their 1st child Mary Jane HANCOCK & 2nd child William Henry > HANCOCK 20 Feb 1841 at Newtown, Geelong. > How do I find how & when they arrived? > > Second Question:- William HANCOCK born 7 July 1815 Wiltshire travelled to > Tasmania before getting married to Rebecca STANNARD on the 11 Sep 1837 at > Launceston. > Where do I get info of travel to Tasmania? > > Regards > Paulette (ex Geelong girl) > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > >

Try the passenger lists- www.prov.vic.gov.au Fran :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: [GEELONG] HANCOCK > Hi Listers, > Can someone point me in the right direction. > > Husbands gr grandparents. > Emmaline HANCOCK married Thomas Skepper Reynolds 13 Aug 1867 at Drysdale. > > What I'm trying to find out is, Emmaline parents William HANCOCK & Rebecca > STANNARD came to Geelong from Launceston ????, Tasmania between April 1838 > the birthdate of their 1st child Mary Jane HANCOCK & 2nd child William Henry > HANCOCK 20 Feb 1841 at Newtown, Geelong. > How do I find how & when they arrived? > > Second Question:- William HANCOCK born 7 July 1815 Wiltshire travelled to > Tasmania before getting married to Rebecca STANNARD on the 11 Sep 1837 at > Launceston. > Where do I get info of travel to Tasmania? > > Regards > Paulette (ex Geelong girl) > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Hi Listers, Can someone point me in the right direction. Husbands gr grandparents. Emmaline HANCOCK married Thomas Skepper Reynolds 13 Aug 1867 at Drysdale. What I'm trying to find out is, Emmaline parents William HANCOCK & Rebecca STANNARD came to Geelong from Launceston ????, Tasmania between April 1838 the birthdate of their 1st child Mary Jane HANCOCK & 2nd child William Henry HANCOCK 20 Feb 1841 at Newtown, Geelong. How do I find how & when they arrived? Second Question:- William HANCOCK born 7 July 1815 Wiltshire travelled to Tasmania before getting married to Rebecca STANNARD on the 11 Sep 1837 at Launceston. Where do I get info of travel to Tasmania? Regards Paulette (ex Geelong girl)

Hi Folks, We're looking at putting on a Family & Local History Expo next year for the Barwon Region. Planning is in the very early stages but in the next few weeks I'll be making contact with all Family History / Genealogy Groups, Local History Groups, Museums, etc. in the region. In the meantime you can help by ensuring that YOUR local group gets in touch with me to make sure I have the right contact details etc. - email addresses would be really helpful. My email address is szada@zades.com.au WHAT IS THE BARWON REGION? Of course the boundary is pretty loose but roughly west to Apollo Bay / Otways, up to include Colac (Colac Otway Shire), Cape Clear etc (Golden Plains Shire), and arcing around to Werribee and all points south and east. This does NOT exclude places from outside this area participating. WHEN? Tentatively we're looking at July 2004 for the first one, then possibly an annual event. WHERE? Probably Geelong to ensure good attendance from Melbourne and across the bay. WHAT? A rough concept at this stage - all day expo on the Saturday - groups can bring their indexes, books for sale, etc. etc. etc., then encourage all participants to open their own society / premises for extended hours on the Sunday (whether you would normally be open or not) to enable visitors from "out-of-town" to visit more than one society on the Sunday based on the information they may have found on the Saturday. COST? At this stage - absolutely no idea but the aim will be to keep everything to a MINIMUM within reason. ============ As I said, this is all in the early planning stage and nothing is locked in, but we need to find out the interest and possible participation of the various groups in the region. So please get in touch with me. We particularly want to hear from newer groups in the region who may only be known locally. Regards ........ Susie Zada Barwon Region representative, RHSV State Committee. N.B. You (or your group) do NOT need to be a member of RHSV to participate in this! It is a Barwon Region History event - to be organised and run by people from groups within the region - in other words, all of us.

Hi, looking at Cliff Young's death notice in the Colac Herald, it says he was Albert Ernest Clifford YOUNG (formerly of Beech Forest, d. 2.11.03 - aged 81 years), son and third child of Albert and Mary YOUNG (both dec.) and brother of Ann Henser, Helen Simmons, Valerie Mintern, Margaret Neave, Eunice Pietsch and Sid. Perhaps this might give you something to work on. Regards, Shirley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan & Melissa Hallyburton" <hallyburton@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: [GEELONG] CLIFF YOUNG the running man. > Hello Listers, > > I have a question to ask if anyone might know of Cliff Young's line of family? > I was told that he and I share an ancestor in common by the name of Robert Young. > Robert Young was born in Ireland and emigrated to Australia. He married and had a family of which a son named William Robert Young is my great great grandfather and he stayed in Geelong to raise his family. There were a couple of sons who lived and raised families in the Colac area, this is the line where Cliff Young apparently comes from. Any help to link and fill in this part of the family would be gratefully appreciated, thanking you. > > Melissa Hallyburton. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hello Listers, I have a question to ask if anyone might know of Cliff Young's line of family? I was told that he and I share an ancestor in common by the name of Robert Young. Robert Young was born in Ireland and emigrated to Australia. He married and had a family of which a son named William Robert Young is my great great grandfather and he stayed in Geelong to raise his family. There were a couple of sons who lived and raised families in the Colac area, this is the line where Cliff Young apparently comes from. Any help to link and fill in this part of the family would be gratefully appreciated, thanking you. Melissa Hallyburton.

Hi Ainslee - the originlas are held by the church at all times but being able to photocopy was a special part of the weekend and the copier was on loan. Transcripts of the records are held at the Geelong Family History Group and the Geelong Heritage Centre at all other times. Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <arhooper@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Christchurch > Hi all > mum just got back from the display at Christhcurch. Had i known what > resources would be available I would have tried to make it myself. What i'm > curious about is the marriage certificates they had available for people to > photocopy, are they available at any time? And if so how would I get access? > I won't be able to make it to it for the rest of the weekend as i'll be down > on the coast, cheers, Ainslee > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l > www.ainsleehooper.com > GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Listerman" <nanknoo@hotmail.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC] Bendigo Cemetery > > > > Hello Elizabeth, > > The URL for the Bendigo Cemeteries is http://www.bencemtrust.com.au/. I > > don't know if they're open on Saturdays. You could try phoning. There are > > several major cemeteries for the Bendigo/Sandhurst area, with the office > > being at the Eaglehawk one in the north west of the city, off the road to > > Kerang. > > > > If you find you can't get information from them, the next best bet is to > be > > at the City Library next to the Town Hall in Hargreaves St., where the > > A.I.G.S volunteers are on duty upstairs from 10am to 12.30pm or so. The > > Library closes at 1 pm and isn't open on Sundays. There are some computer > > records and some microfilm records of who was buried in which Cemetery, > but > > I don't know if they will give you enough information as to where in the > > cemetery they were buried. All four main cemeteries are very old, and > still > > being used, so there are thousands of marked and unmarked graves, and > you'd > > have to be very lucky in an uninformed search to find who you were looking > > for, if all you knew was which was the relevant cemetery. > > > > Good luck with getting the information you need. As with all old > cemeteries > > with high headstones, you need to beware their stability, and seeing the > > bluetongue lizards are already out, meaning the snakes will be too, it > would > > be an idea to keep an eye out in any particularly overgrown areas! > > > > Tom > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC Mailing List ==== > > AUS-VIC Mailing List - > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~michmar/AUS-VICmailList.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Thank you, Ada, I think you may have put us along the right track with your comments. John Wilson doesn't claim to have been present at the birth, but nominates a witness, which is unreadable even when magnified 400 times, but looks like 'Mrs Choseaux'. > It looks to me as though the "friend & neighbour" might have been asked to > register Thomas when he went to Geelong, and as a person "present at the > birth" he could register the birth "within 6 months" without a fine. I think you are probably right here, except that they just added a year to his date of birth, but if 1865, it fits in nicely between the other two. Probably T A also died at or soon after birth, and they didn't think it worthwhile registering him, until they learned of the penalties when John arrived and died. So they did a quick cover up > It would be interesting to see the ages attributed to the children on a > parent's death certificate. and whether there were two children John & > Thomas, a year apart? No, the number of children declared on the parents' death certificates doesn't agree, and doesn't fit in with what we know from the births. I suppose it is probable that the surviving children weren't told of the deaths in infancy of any siblings and weren't old enough to remember it. If we keep working away and we might land this bloke eventually! Thanks again Don Watson > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm >

Thank you Suzy. It all helps. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Late arriving twins? > Hi Don, > > Sutherland Creek - about 8km north east of Bannockburn - I think the > settlement was on the Steiglitz Road and the creek a bit further east. > > Breakwater is a suburb of Geelong - south south east of the city. (Geelong > Racecourse is at Breakwater). > > Regards ........ Susie Z

Thank you, Cecily. He got around! Must have been in training for the longer trip, which took him overland to Winton Qld, in the 1880's. Don >

Sutherland Creek is several Km west of Geelong - not sure exactly how far but only a short drive. I visited there a couple of years ago - not much left there but it was a popular settlement area for the Scots who came in the 1850s. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dontmba@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Late arriving twins? > Thank you to all responders. > I inadvertently assumed that all on this list would be aware that Belfast > was an early name for what is now Port Fairy Vic. When we visited some > years ago the Belfast Bakery was in operation (and made very nice cream > buns). Rosebrook is a few miles out to the north of Port Fairy. > But where is Sutherland Creek? > and does anyone know where Breakwater is? somewhere in this vicinity, we > think. another child was born there much later. > Elizabeth (nee Butcher) arrived as a child in 1854. > We can't find William Brooks arrival. Up until recently the earliest firm > knowledge we had was what was given on his marriage documents - > 23 Nov 1865, William Crook Brooks, Autumn St Ashby, aged 29, widower, former > wife deceased 1856, no issue, born Bradford Yorkshire, father William > Brooks, mother Susan Crook. > Then we found a birth of Fanny Mary Ann (Mary Ann was Elizabeth's > mother -don't know who Fanny may have been), 27 Feb 1864, to William aged > 28, and Elizabeth aged 16, notified by the mother and she signed her name. > (At the marriage she used a mark). So William was in the Geelong area > around July 1863. > We have also found that John lived 14 days, so William must have registered > his birth and death at the same time, and this means there is not much doubt > about the dates of his birth/death. Thomas is a different matter. > At the moment, following a number of helpful suggestions from this list, I > lean towards the theory that William was told that he had to register the > birth of a child even though it died soon after birth, and of the penalties > for not registering, so asked a former neighbour to belatedly register the > birth of Thomas Alfred (these names do not yet appear anywhere else in the > family) who had been born and died in the Sutherland Creek area a year > previously. > If T A was born 11 Jun 1865 rather than 1866 it would be a simple matter, if > questioned, to blame the error on the neighbour or the Registrar. > Either that, or the well intentioned neighbour got the whole thing wrong, > and the child belonged to someone else! > Thanks to all again, I will respond individually shortly. > Don Watson > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > >

Thanks for this. Great reading. Dean On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 09:34 PM, Don Watson wrote: > Thank you to all responders. > I inadvertently assumed that all on this list would be aware that > Belfast > was an early name for what is now Port Fairy Vic. When we visited some > years ago the Belfast Bakery was in operation (and made very nice cream > buns). Rosebrook is a few miles out to the north of Port Fairy. > But where is Sutherland Creek? > and does anyone know where Breakwater is? somewhere in this vicinity, > we > think. another child was born there much later. > Elizabeth (nee Butcher) arrived as a child in 1854. > We can't find William Brooks arrival. Up until recently the earliest > firm > knowledge we had was what was given on his marriage documents - > 23 Nov 1865, William Crook Brooks, Autumn St Ashby, aged 29, widower, > former > wife deceased 1856, no issue, born Bradford Yorkshire, father William > Brooks, mother Susan Crook. >

Hi Don, Sutherland Creek - about 8km north east of Bannockburn - I think the settlement was on the Steiglitz Road and the creek a bit further east. Breakwater is a suburb of Geelong - south south east of the city. (Geelong Racecourse is at Breakwater). Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dontmba@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Late arriving twins? > Thank you to all responders. > I inadvertently assumed that all on this list would be aware that Belfast > was an early name for what is now Port Fairy Vic. When we visited some > years ago the Belfast Bakery was in operation (and made very nice cream > buns). Rosebrook is a few miles out to the north of Port Fairy. > But where is Sutherland Creek? > and does anyone know where Breakwater is? somewhere in this vicinity, we > think. another child was born there much later.