Hi Suzie, My husband tells me that St. Andrews was a Presbyterian school. His sister attended there in the 1950's, & was definitely Presbyterian. Cheers.....Wendy McLennan.

Hi Jo, A bit late, and not sure if it has been mentioned, but SEALAKE is in central Victoria, near the gold mining area of Wedderburn. Regards Blinky Bill.........near Bendigo ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo prejza" <jofesine@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - Thanks Ladies for all you help. I'll look it up on the map now we know she wasn't born at sea!! Thanks again for everyone's help and replies Cheers Jo

Birth, Death and Marriage Certificates in those days- to lead all of us astray! Our gr gr gr grandmothers, so called 'father' died 7 years before she was born........that is creative. Wrong names and where they came from.....no wonder I have gone grey!! Cheers Fran :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo prejza" <jofesine@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] MARY ROBERTSON DEATH 1869 > Hey Thanks for your help Julie. Much appreciated. I thought death records > would be fairly accurate, but obviously not!! > Thanks again > Jo > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: JulieMWhyte@aol.com > Reply-To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com > To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] MARY ROBERTSON DEATH 1869 > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:24:45 EST > > Death records were often wrong. It just depended on who was present when she > died. When my grandfather died in 1984 his fathers name was recorded and his > mother was listed as unknown as my uncle didn't ask anyone what his mother's > name was just said unknown even though my mother and his brothers knew the > details he didn't. > Julie > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > _________________________________________________________________ > Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong and District web site : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ > >

Hi Natalie, Edith and Helen WOOD were the owners and co-principals of St Andrew's School - according to "Model Borough: An Introduction to old Newtown and Chilwell" pp. 53-54, in the early 1950s they "re-located in the old Redpath home, 139 Noble Street". The sisters retired in 1978, St Andrew's was offered for sale but only closed for a few months before reopening February 1979 by a parents' company. There are a few references to James WOOD in our book index - not sure if any of those are your. http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp Regards ...... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Stone" <nataliestone@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Wood Sisters establishing Wesleyan School > Does anybody know anything about two spinster Wood sisters establishing a Methodist Wesleyan School at Geelong. > It was apparently in the same street as Geelong College (not sure what that street is) and possibly now where St Andrews is. > Another relative was James Wood (b.1811), possibly their uncle, who was very involved with the Methodist Church in Yarra St, Geelong. > > Thanks, > > Natalie

Does anybody know anything about two spinster Wood sisters establishing a Methodist Wesleyan School at Geelong. It was apparently in the same street as Geelong College (not sure what that street is) and possibly now where St Andrews is. Another relative was James Wood (b.1811), possibly their uncle, who was very involved with the Methodist Church in Yarra St, Geelong. Thanks, Natalie

Thanks Ladies for all you help. I'll look it up on the map now we know she wasn't born at sea!! Thanks again for everyone's help and replies Cheers Jo ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Judith Thomas" <judythom@optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:48:24 +1100 There is a Seaford near Frankston, about 40kms from Melbourne, on the Nepean Highway down to the Mornington Peninsula. Judy Thomas Frankston. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JulieMWhyte@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - Seaforth is outside Melbourne - maybe near Frankstown not too sure. There is also a Sea Lake . Julie ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District Cemeteries : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District Mailing List Information : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Messenger @ http://messenger.xtramsn.co.nz - talk to family and friends overseas!

Hey Thanks for your help Julie. Much appreciated. I thought death records would be fairly accurate, but obviously not!! Thanks again Jo ----Original Message Follows---- From: JulieMWhyte@aol.com Reply-To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] MARY ROBERTSON DEATH 1869 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:24:45 EST Death records were often wrong. It just depended on who was present when she died. When my grandfather died in 1984 his fathers name was recorded and his mother was listed as unknown as my uncle didn't ask anyone what his mother's name was just said unknown even though my mother and his brothers knew the details he didn't. Julie ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp _________________________________________________________________ Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming !

Unfortunately the indexes are abbreviated and with only sea as the abbreviation it could be several places. Seaford is on Port phillip bay close to frankston. Sea Lake is nearer to swan hill so a long way north. Seaholme, Seaspray, Seaton are all in gippsland, east of victoria there is also a Seabrook which is between melbourne & geelong near Point Cook however I have also seen properties listed as peoples place of birth/death etc so it may even be a farm. good luck linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Campbell <neils1@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > Seaford is just out of Frankston in Vic. > > LOCATION: SEAFORTH, NSW > POSTCODE: 2092 > > LOCATION: SEAFORTH, QLD > POSTCODE: 4741 > > These are the only Seaforth suburbs in Australia > > Fran :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alwynne mackie" <alwynnem@melbpc.org.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > > > > I think the one near Frankston is Seaford. > > Cheers, > > Alwynne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JulieMWhyte@aol.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > > > > > > > Seaforth is outside Melbourne - maybe near Frankstown not too sure. > > > There is also a Sea Lake . > > > Julie > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Hi Jo thanks for info the wall is still too high John born[Wigton Scot] parents were Archibald Robertson & Jane Cameron Catherine [born Lanarkshire Scotland ] parent's were Duncan McNicol & Anne Campbell [yours possibly no relation] regards Deirdre deirdremc@bigpond.com

Seaford is just out of Frankston in Vic. LOCATION: SEAFORTH, NSW POSTCODE: 2092 LOCATION: SEAFORTH, QLD POSTCODE: 4741 These are the only Seaforth suburbs in Australia Fran :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "alwynne mackie" <alwynnem@melbpc.org.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > I think the one near Frankston is Seaford. > Cheers, > Alwynne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JulieMWhyte@aol.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:26 AM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > > > > Seaforth is outside Melbourne - maybe near Frankstown not too sure. > > There is also a Sea Lake . > > Julie > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

thanks Ada I'm off to the pro with my gen group in a couple of weeks so will your suggestion regards Deirdre deirdremc@bigpond.com

thanks Susie I'm going to prov in a couple of weeks with our gen group will try there regards Deirdre deirdremc@bigpond.com

There is a Seaford near Frankston, about 40kms from Melbourne, on the Nepean Highway down to the Mornington Peninsula. Judy Thomas Frankston. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JulieMWhyte@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - Seaforth is outside Melbourne - maybe near Frankstown not too sure. There is also a Sea Lake . Julie ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District Cemeteries : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm

I think the one near Frankston is Seaford. Cheers, Alwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: <JulieMWhyte@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Mary Robertson born at sea - > Seaforth is outside Melbourne - maybe near Frankstown not too sure. > There is also a Sea Lake . > Julie > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > >

Hello Dierdre, As a shipwright /ship's carpenter (a lesser title used as a crew member) it is possible that your man worked for a coastal shipping line. As such, he would travel at company expense on one of the company's ships without appearing on the crew list or the passenger list. It was a separate form (I have seen only one, they were not retained with the passenger lists by customs/ immigration, it seems) The time span 1890-1893 was a time of severe depression in the eastern states, and the West Australian shipping trade suddenly picked up, not just because of WA gold, but because of the WA govt opening up farmland. It may be that his future was on the ships travelling the WA route as a ships carpenter, or that the firm he worked for had infrastructure in Geelong requiring a shipwright. Either is possible. But keep looking, it is a long slow slog through the surviving interstate shipping for passengers at the VPRO, but worth it to close a door and, perhaps, open a new one. Regards Ada At 16:38 17-11-03 +1100, Deirdre McDougall wrote: >Hi Listers >I'm still trying to trace how John & Catherine ROBERTSON and 6 children >arrived in Geelong from Brisbane Qld.I know they were in Geelong by 1893 >when another son Archie was born but have been unable to find how or when >they got there /John was a shipwright so maybe they came via Point Henry/ >can sks please point me in the right direction as my brick wall seems to be >getting harder to knock down/ I live in Melbourne > >regards >Deirdre >deirdremc@bigpond.com > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Thanks to all that have tried to find my LOST TOWN, but it looks like it will remain lost. I did notice the spelling was wrong, but it was also a great site about that area. Thanks again Paulette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carollyn Williams" <wisteria@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Lost Town > Those that looked did you note that Princetown was in fact mispelt "Pricetown"!! > Carollyn Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margaret Johnson > To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:01 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Lost Town > > > Hi, > I brought up Google Search Engine and found this page. > If this doesn't work, just put in "Pricetown near 12 apostles" > Cheers > Margaret > > http://www.12apostlesnatpark.org/_12/parks-recreation-towns.htm. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > ______________________________

Hello Rosemary, Firstly, to find out a bit about where Rev. Thomas QUINTON was living at various times, search our Bellarine names index for QUINTON - he had a habit of naming his children after parishes where he served as local minister. http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp i.e. Arlington Drysdale QUINTON (Portarlington & Drysdale on the Bellarine Peninsula) and Theodore Mornington QUINTON (Mornington Peninsula?) I'd also strongly suggest that you look at the QUINTON entries in our Geelong Book Index ....... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp And don't forget to check the McPHERSON entries in the book index too! Have you got the death certificate for Frances Anne McPHERSON and does it show the name as MOORE or BOORE or what? It certainly shows MOORE in the index but that is ONLY an index - you can only be certain with the certificate. If you're unsure if this is the right person, then I suggest you follow up the entry/ies in the Geelong Advertiser ............ Again the Bellarine names index shows a reference to Frances Ann McPHERSON in the Geelong Advertiser in 1896 - if you look at the other McPHERSON entries in the Bellarine index it's pretty easy to pick up the pattern as you'll notice there's also a Capt D J McPHERSON with an entry in the Geelong Advertiser in 1896 - highly likely that this relates to Daniel James McPHERSON (pilot = capt) and his wife Frances Ann. I'll put you out of suspense and tell you that there was an article in the Addy on October 3, 1896 - summary (I DON'T have the article!) - Death 2/10/1896 at Drysdale of Frances Ann, 84 years, relict of Capt. D.J. McPHERSON. Funeral from the residence of her son-in-law, Rev. Thomas QUINTON, Drysdale, that day to Herne Hill Cemetery. So there's plenty there to keep you busy! Regards ...... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Beattie" <rkbt@gil.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: [GEELONG] McPHERSON NICHOLSON QUINTON > Hello > I would be very interested in information about any of the following > families if anyone could help please. > > Daniel James McPHERSON, pilot married Frances Ann BOORE/ BOWE presumably > before migrating to Australia where they spent at least some of their time > around the Geelong area. > Their children were: > Anne Maria McPHERSON married Henry Molyneux NICHOLSON in 1861(There is > apparently a photograph of an Ann Marie NICHOLSON in the book " Gold Reef > and Silver Tussock : the History of the Shire of Leigh" but don't know of > course if it could be my ancestor. > Clara Louise McPHERSON married Rev Thomas QUINTON in Melbourne 1877 and is > listed in the Bellarine Cemeteries Index 1938 > William John McPHERSON (about 1852-1911) > Daniel McPHERSON (1850-1905) > James William McPHERSON (b 1844) > > There appear to be a number of references to Rev Thomas QUINTON in the > Geelong area so maybe someone knows something about him which could give a > few more clues to my McPHERSONs? > > Also I noticed there was a Frances Ann McPHERSON who died in 1896 at > Bellarine and whose parents were > Richard MOORE and Frances RUSS. Perhaps BOORE had been misinterpreted as > MOORE? >

Hi Deidre, If your ROBERTSONs came via sea then you won't find them in the standard overseas passengers indexes but via intercoastal shipping - possibly from Sydney. Very little of this is indexed but many of the records that show passengers (and sometimes crew) will be at the PROV in Melbourne!!!!! So right on your doorstep. If they came from Queensland or NSW or Tas, then it's highly unlikely they landed at Point Henry - more likely Geelong as they were in smaller ships that could get across the sandbar or through the smaller channels to Geelong - it was the larger overseas ships that had to anchor off Point Henry. Remember of course that many people came overland and for the period you mentioned, there were plenty of railways. Of course being a shipwright it's more likely that they came via sea - people like that rather have an afinity for the ocean! <vbg> It would also be worth you checking the Geelong Advertiser indexes - you'd need to get to the Geelong Heritage Centre for that. Regards ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deirdre McDougall" <deirdremc@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] FINDING PASSENGERS > Hi Listers > I'm still trying to trace how John & Catherine ROBERTSON and 6 children > arrived in Geelong from Brisbane Qld.I know they were in Geelong by 1893 > when another son Archie was born but have been unable to find how or when > they got there /John was a shipwright so maybe they came via Point Henry/ > can sks please point me in the right direction as my brick wall seems to be > getting harder to knock down/ I live in Melbourne >

Hello I would be very interested in information about any of the following families if anyone could help please. Daniel James McPHERSON, pilot married Frances Ann BOORE/ BOWE presumably before migrating to Australia where they spent at least some of their time around the Geelong area. Their children were: Anne Maria McPHERSON married Henry Molyneux NICHOLSON in 1861(There is apparently a photograph of an Ann Marie NICHOLSON in the book " Gold Reef and Silver Tussock : the History of the Shire of Leigh" but don't know of course if it could be my ancestor. Clara Louise McPHERSON married Rev Thomas QUINTON in Melbourne 1877 and is listed in the Bellarine Cemeteries Index 1938 William John McPHERSON (about 1852-1911) Daniel McPHERSON (1850-1905) James William McPHERSON (b 1844) There appear to be a number of references to Rev Thomas QUINTON in the Geelong area so maybe someone knows something about him which could give a few more clues to my McPHERSONs? Also I noticed there was a Frances Ann McPHERSON who died in 1896 at Bellarine and whose parents were Richard MOORE and Frances RUSS. Perhaps BOORE had been misinterpreted as MOORE? Thanks and best wishes Rosemary

Jo, both mother and daughter are buried at Inverleigh Cemetery, they do not have a headstone, the details I have: Robertson, Mary 38 yrs, daughter of David & Annie (Robinson) Seed, Robertson, Mary 3 years daughter of Robert & Mary (Seed). I'm not sure if Mary's surname is correct. I have that Mary junior was born At Sea but she doesn't rate a mention in the Victorian Marine Births, Deaths and Marriages. I hope the information is of use to you. regards Dianne Hughes Teesdale