Hello I am researching James Egan and Margaret Liston who married in Templetuohy parish Tipperary Aug 1858 and came to Australia before November 1859 when Margaret was witness to Richard Liston's marriage to Mary Dwyer. James Egans parents were given on his death certificate as Dennis Egan and Ellen King and his tombstone states Native of Moyne Tipperary as does Richard Liston's. Margaret Liston Egan's death certificate gives her parents as Thomas Liston and Margaret Healey. However Richard's were John Liston and Bridget Healey. Because of irish naming patterns I am inclinced to think that Margaret's parents were John and Bridget. There are NO Thomas Egans in our line. However to complicate matters a bit more I have been told that Margaret Liston a dairymain from Tipperary arrived in Australia aboard the Dirigo about 1859 and she is listed as a niece of Richard Liston - Would Margaret Liston Egan have travelled as Margaret Liston when she was married? I know from research that there are several James Egans but I would like to know if there were 2 Margaret Listons who arrived about the same time or just one. James Egan and Margaret Liston (name given as Lyster /Linton on childrens birth certificates) had the following children Dennis John James Bridget Ellen Margaret. Dennis died aged 22 - on his hospital record it states British Trident in brackets but his birth record 1859 shows Ashby. Did they family come out on the British Trident. John married Ellen Normoyle. James married Cath Gregory Bridget married a (John Phillip????) Singleton Ellen (Nell) and Margaret (Rita) never married. Could someone shed some light on this family please?? Julie

Hi Caroline - knew I knew the name! I printed your request back in Jan 2002 in our GFHG magazine - no point writing to yourself!!! regards, Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nunya" <ajcass@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Frederick Allen, Elijah Seeley > I am looking any information to help fill in some gaps. > Frederick Allen snr was a convict, came from Tasmania, and married Majory > Luke in Geelong. > Their son Frederick Allen jnr was in the police force in Geelong, before > being discharged. > Frederick died when his daughter Jane Matilda Allen was one week old. > Jane's mother Hannah Matilda Allen ne Seeley died when she was one year old. > Jane was then looked after by the Seeley's. > Jane came to Australia with her Family > Thanks Caroline > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

yes I did but I couldn't confirm they were the same John Millar I have access to the Clyde papers so I will check them. Heather > -----Original Message----- > From: Susie Zada [mailto:szada@zades.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 6:26 AM > To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] John Millar > > > Hi Heather, > > Have you checked our Geelong & District Consolidated Book Index - a couple > of references there ........ > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > Regards ......... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather" <heatherm@yarranet.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:14 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] John Millar > > > > I am researching councillors and civic employees for the Town of > > Hotham./North Melbourne for a centenary project. John Millar was a > surveyor > > for Hotham in the 1860s. Prior to this he was the chief Engineer for the > > Geelong Water Commission. > > Does anyone know anything of him? > > > > > > Heather McKay > > > > Reference and Local History Librarian > > North Melbourne Library > > 66 Errol St > > North Melbourne 3051 > > Ph 9297 3280 > > Fax 9297 3279 > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hello, I'll thank you once again for your assistance to find information about the lifes of Friedrich Ferdinand and Carl Theodor KAWERAU. And I beg you for forgiveness that I have sent you so many mails with queries if they are uncles of my gg-grandmother or not. Now, I have find the answer between my books, in the manuscipt of the biography of my gg-grandmother. There is a chapter where she mentioned the siblings of her father Peter (Martin) KAWERAU (1815-1875): - Friedrich ("three years younger") - Carl ("the next younger brother") ("both left Germany when I was a small girl") - Julie, married to ?? GRAVENHORST ("eight years younger than father" --> ~1823-1865) - Maria, married to ?? BAUER ("lived in Switzerland", d. before 1864) - Paul (1834-1864) - Hermann (1839-1872) with kind regards, Christoph Haupt -- Haupt'S finden&suchen Christoph Haupt Am Friedenstal 1/3 D-30627 Hannover TEL: +511 522313 FAX: +511 8793208 eMail: chg.C.Haupt@t-online.de www.haupt-researcher.de

Hi Heather, Have you checked our Geelong & District Consolidated Book Index - a couple of references there ........ http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp Regards ......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather" <heatherm@yarranet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: [GEELONG] John Millar > I am researching councillors and civic employees for the Town of > Hotham./North Melbourne for a centenary project. John Millar was a surveyor > for Hotham in the 1860s. Prior to this he was the chief Engineer for the > Geelong Water Commission. > Does anyone know anything of him? > > > Heather McKay > > Reference and Local History Librarian > North Melbourne Library > 66 Errol St > North Melbourne 3051 > Ph 9297 3280 > Fax 9297 3279 > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

I can't remember who was inquiring about Mary Robertson who appears on the Victorian Pioneer Index as "born at Sea". Mary was born at sea but her birth was registered at Geelong after the ship had docked, so she doesn't appear on the Marine Births, Deaths and Marriages. Mary was Born At Sea On Board "British Trident". If you get the certificate it will provide you with all the normal details of a birth certificate. Dianne Hughes Teesdale

dianne, if you are clever at this sort of thing. mary tremayne was pregnant and had her child on board the lysanda. she came here with her parents cuthbert tremayne, who disappeared (maybe went back to mum) and mary nee morrish. in the cd listing it is shown as... EVANS - mary ann tremayne (the child died shortly after birth and was buried in Melbourne, and her parents married there about 6 months later).... burial 17.5.1849. ref. 1854/bv0124 buried 17.5.1849 died 14.5.1849 her parents were mary ann tremayne, not yet married to edward evans. even tho she called the child evans. now, to me, it seems that the burial was not 'registered' until 1854. why? the child was born to mary, who is seems came here to chase up her errant fiancee. he got a free trip here. the child died a few days after birth. captains report says she had child on board. other rellies dispute this. i reckon she did, it WAS her, as why would another mary call it mary tremayne evans. only mary tremayne would do that surely. mary smith or jones would not....!!! any bright ideas on this? robyn shaw.toowoomba. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Hughes" <billndi2@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Robertson, Mary - born at sea > I can't remember who was inquiring about Mary Robertson who appears on the Victorian Pioneer Index as "born at Sea". Mary was born at sea but her birth was registered at Geelong after the ship had docked, so she doesn't appear on the Marine Births, Deaths and Marriages. Mary was Born At Sea On Board "British Trident". If you get the certificate it will provide you with all the normal details of a birth certificate. > Dianne Hughes > Teesdale > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

I am researching councillors and civic employees for the Town of Hotham./North Melbourne for a centenary project. John Millar was a surveyor for Hotham in the 1860s. Prior to this he was the chief Engineer for the Geelong Water Commission. Does anyone know anything of him? Heather McKay Reference and Local History Librarian North Melbourne Library 66 Errol St North Melbourne 3051 Ph 9297 3280 Fax 9297 3279

Hi Caroline - Your brief rings a bell with someone researching this same family which was either posted to this list some time ago, or somewhere that I have seen this! Would you care to send me a brief writeup for the Geelong Family History Group magazine whcih may bring in some new contacts.In the meantime I will go through the Research Queries from the last few years in our mag and see if that's where I have seen it. regards, Pam Jennings (editor) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nunya" <ajcass@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Frederick Allen, Elijah Seeley > I am looking any information to help fill in some gaps. > Frederick Allen snr was a convict, came from Tasmania, and married Majory > Luke in Geelong. > Their son Frederick Allen jnr was in the police force in Geelong, before > being discharged. > Frederick died when his daughter Jane Matilda Allen was one week old. > Jane's mother Hannah Matilda Allen ne Seeley died when she was one year old. > Jane was then looked after by the Seeley's. > Jane came to Australia with her Family > Thanks Caroline > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Sorry Marj but unfortunately records from these Register Offices no longer exist to my knowledge - would be wonderful if they did and while we are dreaming, hopefully they would also be indexed!!!! Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "marj campbell" <tsamp13@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: [GEELONG] James Hendy & Co > The following ad appeared in the 'Gelong Advertiser' 15/4/1859 > Female Domestic Bazaar > 22 Ryrie St., East > Ladies and other employers of female servants are respectfully informed that > the undersigned have offices set apart specially for the female domestic and > a waiting room for the accommodation of ladies. The Props. from their long > experience and large attendance of servants are enabled to supply with great > facility, all orders entrusted to them. James Hendy Co.. > Any information, records, etc.. > Researching J. E. Adam, who indicated on her marriage cert. 1/1860, she was > a servant at Mt. Duneed. > Marjorie. > > > > > mJc > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Hi Judith - a book about the JENNER family was written some years ago. I am not sure who wriote it but a copy is with the Geelong Heritage Centre. I shall look up the aurthor and let you know. Perhaps you would also care to do a brief writeup of the families for publishing in our Geelong Family History Group magazine which may bring in some contacts also.regards, Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Stichbury" <jaystich@xtra.co.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong families > Hello there, > I am researching the following names from the mid 1800's in Geelong. > Henry ANDREWS, draper > Charles ANDREWS draper and MLA for Geelong > Caleb Joshua JENNER > J J PAWSEY > Robert PAWSEY > > Judith Stichbury > NZ > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Towns and Regions : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm >

I would love to hear from anyone researching the Anderson family originally from Geelong. John Jos. Anderson married Annie Louisa Varty and they lived in High Street Geelong. Their children were William Anderson who died in 1956 Dromana aged 60 and Gladys Louise Anderson who died in Richmond in 1983 aged 85 Gladys cared for her grandmother, Mary Varty and ran the Newagency in Hesse Street, Queenscliffe. Gladys also taught piano. Mary Varty died at the age of 99 in 1936. Thank you Regards Marilyn Kelliher "To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root"

I am looking any information to help fill in some gaps. Frederick Allen snr was a convict, came from Tasmania, and married Majory Luke in Geelong. Their son Frederick Allen jnr was in the police force in Geelong, before being discharged. Frederick died when his daughter Jane Matilda Allen was one week old. Jane's mother Hannah Matilda Allen ne Seeley died when she was one year old. Jane was then looked after by the Seeley's. Jane came to Australia with her Family Thanks Caroline

The following ad appeared in the 'Gelong Advertiser' 15/4/1859 Female Domestic Bazaar 22 Ryrie St., East Ladies and other employers of female servants are respectfully informed that the undersigned have offices set apart specially for the female domestic and a waiting room for the accommodation of ladies. The Props. from their long experience and large attendance of servants are enabled to supply with great facility, all orders entrusted to them. James Hendy Co.. Any information, records, etc.. Researching J. E. Adam, who indicated on her marriage cert. 1/1860, she was a servant at Mt. Duneed. Marjorie. mJc _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

Hello there, I am researching the following names from the mid 1800's in Geelong. Henry ANDREWS, draper Charles ANDREWS draper and MLA for Geelong Caleb Joshua JENNER J J PAWSEY Robert PAWSEY Judith Stichbury NZ

Here is what I found on the Pioneer indexes. Julie Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Joshua Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Caleb Joshua Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet Emily ANDREWS Age: Sex: Birth Place: GEELONG Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 5190 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : jenner (137 matches) Given Names : caleb (226 matches) Total matching records: 7 -------------------- Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Caleb Joshua Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eliza Ann NEW Age: Sex: Birth Place: ME LB Death Place: Year: 1878 Reg Number: 4048 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Joshua Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Caleb Joshua Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet Emily ANDREWS Age: 4M Sex: Birth Place: GEE Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 3930 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Joshua Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: ANDREWS Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet Emily Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1854 Reg Number: 1573 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Joshua Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: ANDREWS Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta Julia Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1857 Reg Number: 3348 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: JENNER Given Names: Caleb Joshua Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: NEW Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eliza Ann Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 3120 Denomination: Parish: Fiche:

Hi Carollyn, Have you checked the passenger list?? Jane (20) and Susan (15) SABERI both arrived on the Ivanhoe in Feb 1863 - with such an unusual name it would be most unlikely for them not to be related. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=4 Regards ..... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carollyn Williams" <wisteria@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Saberi > Trying to find Saberi connections in Geelong. These 3 groups lived in Geelong but as yet I cannot connect them despite some searching in UK. Hoping someone may have some further information > > 1. Mary Ann Saberi b. 1834 married 1854 (in England before coming to Australia) Stephen O'Neil d.1881. They lived in Geelong. Children Stephen 1855, John 1856, Thomas 1857, Isabella 1859, Mary 1860, Susan 1861, Louis 1863, John 1865, Arthur 1867, William 1869, Ellen 1870, Catherine 1872, Edward 1875, Male 1878. > > > 2. Jane Elizabeth Saberi married to Leon Auguste Roman 1864 > > 3. Susan Saberi b. 1851 London, do of Thomas Saberi and Harriett Winston, d. 1919 Geelong. Susan married 1870 in Geelong Thomas Thorne b. 1849 Tiverton d. 1886 Geelong. Susan had 2 brothers that I know of - Thomas (millsawyer) b. 1832 Jamestown m Amelia Hodgkiss (milliner) b. 1832 Finsbury and John d 1838 aged 11mnths of small pox. Susan and Thomas lived in Chilwell, Geelong > > Susan and Jane came to Geelong about the same time. > > Carollyn Williams

Trying to find Saberi connections in Geelong. These 3 groups lived in Geelong but as yet I cannot connect them despite some searching in UK. Hoping someone may have some further information 1. Mary Ann Saberi b. 1834 married 1854 (in England before coming to Australia) Stephen O'Neil d.1881. They lived in Geelong. Children Stephen 1855, John 1856, Thomas 1857, Isabella 1859, Mary 1860, Susan 1861, Louis 1863, John 1865, Arthur 1867, William 1869, Ellen 1870, Catherine 1872, Edward 1875, Male 1878. 2. Jane Elizabeth Saberi married to Leon Auguste Roman 1864 3. Susan Saberi b. 1851 London, do of Thomas Saberi and Harriett Winston, d. 1919 Geelong. Susan married 1870 in Geelong Thomas Thorne b. 1849 Tiverton d. 1886 Geelong. Susan had 2 brothers that I know of - Thomas (millsawyer) b. 1832 Jamestown m Amelia Hodgkiss (milliner) b. 1832 Finsbury and John d 1838 aged 11mnths of small pox. Susan and Thomas lived in Chilwell, Geelong Susan and Jane came to Geelong about the same time. Carollyn Williams

Thanks to all for the information on the Wood sisters. My impression from family stories is that the Wesleyan Methodist school was established probably in the mid-late 1800's. But it seems a bit of a coincidence that Wood sisters were owners of St. Andrews? I will have to look into it further. Regards, Natalie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wood Sisters establishing Wesleyan School > Hi Natalie, > > Edith and Helen WOOD were the owners and co-principals of St Andrew's > School - according to "Model Borough: An Introduction to old Newtown and > Chilwell" pp. 53-54, in the early 1950s they "re-located in the old Redpath > home, 139 Noble Street". The sisters retired in 1978, St Andrew's was > offered for sale but only closed for a few months before reopening February > 1979 by a parents' company. > > There are a few references to James WOOD in our book index - not sure if any > of those are your. > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > Regards ...... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Stone" <nataliestone@bigpond.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:49 AM > Subject: [GEELONG] Wood Sisters establishing Wesleyan School > > > > Does anybody know anything about two spinster Wood sisters establishing a > Methodist Wesleyan School at Geelong. > > It was apparently in the same street as Geelong College (not sure what > that street is) and possibly now where St Andrews is. > > Another relative was James Wood (b.1811), possibly their uncle, who was > very involved with the Methodist Church in Yarra St, Geelong. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Natalie > > ______________________________

Hi Wendy, It's interesting that all the references are to St Andrew's Private School and no official reference to it being a Presbyterian School. Of course a name like St Andrew's infers Scottish sources, and there may have been religious classes but it was not a church school. And of course it doesn't fit in with Natalie's original question which was about a Wesleyan / Methodist School, however there is no doubt that the Wood sisters operated the private school called St Andrew's - the religion that may have been associated with the school is another question again. And it certainly appears that the Wood sisters ran it when your husband's sister went there - and most students know which school they went to and what they were taught (well some do! <vbg>). Thanks for the input - hope it helps Natalie sort out her research. Regards ........ Susie Z (no Z in Susie!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.G&W.A.Mclennan" <burra@ansonic.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Wood Sisters establishing Wesleyan School > Hi Suzie, > > My husband tells me that St. Andrews was a Presbyterian school. His sister > attended there in the 1950's, & was definitely Presbyterian. > > Cheers.....Wendy McLennan.