Hi again Dorothy, Do you have those shipping documents (or copies) in your posession? if so would I be able to have a copy please. Cheers Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell & Dorothy Devlin" <rustydoor@netspace.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Hi Ann, > My husband's ancestors John and Mary Ann Devlin arrived on the Marco Polo > in September 1852. Although they came from Ireland the Marco Polo sailed > from an English port.. According to the shipping documents they were > assisted migrants and sponsored by R. H. Kinnear of Connewarre where John > worked for 12 months for 50 pounds plus keep. > Connewarre is a small farming settlement between Geelong and Barwon Heads. > This may give you a different lead in your investigations. > regards, > Dorothy Devlin. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Further to Robyn's info about Croydon - Chris Weirman's phone is 0747456125 and he can be reached by email at - croydonifo@bigpond.com We were up there in August; my grandparents were there from about 1888 to 1908. My father was born there. Don Watson (also in Toowoomba) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Croydon, for those not in the know, is in the top end of far north Qld. The > locals and council have updated the place and in town it looks very nice. > Local tourist officer, Chris Weirman, is a fund of knowledge. > > Sadly, around 1888, dunno about earlier, there were heaps of people looking > for gold there. Mostly slightly out of town. The water was dreadful and > the sanitation even worse so it seems. People died like flies. Guess the > Irish survived by not drinking water! > > Well, my great grandfather did until 1888 when he died of 'local disease', > dropsy, and other dreadful things. He left a large family, didn't they all, > and his wife. The couple ran the local hotel at Mulligan's Camp, out of > town. After her husband died, and then her son, she came to town and ran > another hotel. With all those kids! > > Anyway, eventually she came to Brisbane and lived with her daughter Cecilia > Gamble, and died at the ripe old age of about 84 I think from memory. > > I tramped over many grave sites, found an Irish cross fallen over, flooded > and looking dreadful. Could not deciper the name of the person, so > 'assumed' it was my great grandfather. Best I could do. Well, it COULD be > his...........er.....er.... > > Because of the hot weather, lack of preservation, people were buried not far > from where they died. I am sure he is buried on a property, with about 30 > others, at a local area, but cannot have access to them all as the man who > owns it does not let people in. > > Story goes that he purchased the place, knowing the graves were there, and > was not supposed to 'fence them in', e.g. he was to make the fence do a dog > leg, but of course, he didn't. How can people 'buy' consecrated ground?? > Then not let the rellies go there?? Dunno. > > I am sure if he had to do without the small area where the graves are, and > had access to them available, it would not affect his monetary return from > the property. He has thousands of other acres. It is not god's own > country. It is dry and rocky and I am sure he would not miss the few acres, > but........... > > Sorry I cannot tell anyone about other goldfields. Chris Weirman is the > man. There were heaps of goldfields, heaps of immigrants, all round > Croydon. If anyone wants to contact Chris, ring the local council and ask > for his email. > > robyn shaw. toowoomba.qld. (the bottom end of Qld!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from > > croydon? > > We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is > > left at all? > > Linda > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > > > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to > find > > > my great grandfathers grave. > > > > > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great > grandfather. > > > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > > > > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > > buried > > > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > > > > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over > them, > > > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > > for > > > grazing). > > > > > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > > > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > > > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > > and > > > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his > wife > > > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia > in > > > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > > Pioneers > > > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > > > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > > > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an > original > > > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > > > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > > on > > > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > > died > > > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep > 1852 > > > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible > I > > > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can > visit > > > her grave next year w! > > > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > > and > > > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July > 1852. > > > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > > more > > > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > > > clues as to what to do. > > > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > > > hoping. > > > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong Family History Group : > > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm >

Thanks Dorothy, beautiful!!!! I have learnt another little bit of family history, He must have gone to Connawarre after they left "Ballanee" maybe there's a cemetery there. Do you know if it was "Connawarre Bay or Lake Station"? He also had "Coonooer" from Oct 1852 (little Patrick Rannie Kinnear was born there) . Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell & Dorothy Devlin" <rustydoor@netspace.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Hi Ann, > My husband's ancestors John and Mary Ann Devlin arrived on the Marco Polo > in September 1852. Although they came from Ireland the Marco Polo sailed > from an English port.. According to the shipping documents they were > assisted migrants and sponsored by R. H. Kinnear of Connewarre where John > worked for 12 months for 50 pounds plus keep. > Connewarre is a small farming settlement between Geelong and Barwon Heads. > This may give you a different lead in your investigations. > regards, > Dorothy Devlin. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Thanks Grahame, have tried all those, but with no luck. Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grahame & Rosslyn Thom" <grthom@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Hi Eve > > Re your enquiry Kinnear, the following sites are useful re arrivals but > yours dont seem to appear. > > cheers > > Grahame > > http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ > > http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass1an.html > > http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ > > on 17/12/03 4:50 PM, Eve Anderson at eanderson@bigfoot.com.au wrote: > > > This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the > > now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers. > > I found the graves of their other two children on "Madowla Park" n/e of > > Echuca. It has been classified and it was so sad to see the little graveyard > > and graves in such a bad state when we visited there in 2001. > > Eve. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > >> Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > >> I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > >> my great grandfathers grave. > >> > >> Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > >> He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > >> > >> Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > > buried > >> as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > >> > >> Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > >> more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > > for > >> grazing). > >> > >> Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > >> supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > >> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > >> Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > >> > >> > >>> Hello List, > >>> I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > > and > >> where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > >> Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > >> 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > > Pioneers > >> of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > >> 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > >> Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > >> poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > >> second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > > on > >> 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > > died > >> on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > >> (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > >> have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > >> her grave next year w! > >>> hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > > and > >> arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > >>> I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > > more > >> into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > >> clues as to what to do. > >>> My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > >> hoping. > >>> Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >>> Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > >>> http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > >>> http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >> Geelong Family History Group : > >> http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > >> > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Churches : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm >

Thanks Wendy, no I haven't seen the book, would you know if R.H.K is mentioned? Eve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.G&W.A.Mclennan" <burra@ansonic.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Re (GEELONG) KINNEAR > Eve, Have you seen the book "The Woolshed: A Riverina Anthology" by Peter Freeman, published 1980 ? On pages 192 - 196 are sketches & photos of "Madowla Park", and some early history. > > No doubt you have tried the Ballan cemetery for the grave you are seeking ? > > Good luck......Wendy McLennan. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Towns and Regions : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm >

Thanks John, these are the 2 children buried at "Madowla Park". Eve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Whitehand" <wht4hnd@vicnet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Had a look at the early [DOS] version of Pioneers Index > > Recorded Death Patrick Rannie b Avoca d. 1862 age 5yrs ref 4209 > Fa. Robert Hill Kinnear Mo. Rosalie Magdal Korn > also Unnamed Female b Echuca ref 8982. D 1868 ref 3795 > Fa. Robert Hill Kinnear Mo. Rosalie Magdal Korn > may broaden the horizons somewhat.. ( I also had a Roberts family at > Ballanee pre 1850 ) > bfn > John > Eve Anderson wrote: > > >This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the > >now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers.--EDITED > > > >>poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > >>second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > >> > >> > >on > > > > > >>27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > >> > >> > >died > > > > > >>on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > >>(no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > >>have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > >>her grave next year w! > >> > >> > >>>hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > >>> > >>> > >and > > > > > >>arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > >> > >> > >>>I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > >>> > >>> > >more > > > > > >>into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > >>clues as to what to do. > >> > >> > >>>My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > >>> > >>> > >>hoping. > >> > >> > >>> Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > >>> > >>> > >>>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >>>Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > >>>http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > >>>http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >>Geelong Family History Group : > >>http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >Geelong & District Churches : > >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > > > >. > > > > > > > > -- > John Whitehand > Melbourne 61 3 93145306 > > "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the > work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless > sea." > > Antoine de St. Exupery > http://www.westegg.com/exupery/ > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hi Eve Re your enquiry Kinnear, the following sites are useful re arrivals but yours dont seem to appear. cheers Grahame http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass1an.html http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ on 17/12/03 4:50 PM, Eve Anderson at eanderson@bigfoot.com.au wrote: > This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the > now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers. > I found the graves of their other two children on "Madowla Park" n/e of > Echuca. It has been classified and it was so sad to see the little graveyard > and graves in such a bad state when we visited there in 2001. > Eve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > >> Don't live in hope with the burial ground. >> I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find >> my great grandfathers grave. >> >> Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. >> He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. >> >> Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > buried >> as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. >> >> Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, >> more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > for >> grazing). >> >> Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the >> supposed place of burial. robyndehood. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM >> Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR >> >> >>> Hello List, >>> I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > and >> where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife >> Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in >> 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > Pioneers >> of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in >> 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. >> Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original >> poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their >> second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > on >> 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > died >> on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 >> (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I >> have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit >> her grave next year w! >>> hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > and >> arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. >>> I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > more >> into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some >> clues as to what to do. >>> My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's >> hoping. >>> Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. >>> >>> >>> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>> Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >>> http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >>> http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >>> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >> Geelong Family History Group : >> http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Churches : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm >

Hi I am trying to locate burials/dates of death of the following family. I have the year of death from Victorian Deaths Index 1921-1985. Olive Gertrude Finlayson (nee Clark)1909 - 1948 died Geelong Lesley Patricia Finlayson c1933 - 1946 Ronald John Finlayson c1933 -1935 Elvie May Finlayson c1946 -1946 also looking for Olive's sisters Hazel Naomi Loveday (nee Clark) 1912 - ?? Irene Elizabeth Thompson (nee Clark) 1913 - ?? Laura Lillian Bate (nee Clark) 1923 - Lila May Coulter? (nee Clark) 1915 - Thankyou Suzanne - Tasmania

Croydon, for those not in the know, is in the top end of far north Qld. The locals and council have updated the place and in town it looks very nice. Local tourist officer, Chris Weirman, is a fund of knowledge. Sadly, around 1888, dunno about earlier, there were heaps of people looking for gold there. Mostly slightly out of town. The water was dreadful and the sanitation even worse so it seems. People died like flies. Guess the Irish survived by not drinking water! Well, my great grandfather did until 1888 when he died of 'local disease', dropsy, and other dreadful things. He left a large family, didn't they all, and his wife. The couple ran the local hotel at Mulligan's Camp, out of town. After her husband died, and then her son, she came to town and ran another hotel. With all those kids! Anyway, eventually she came to Brisbane and lived with her daughter Cecilia Gamble, and died at the ripe old age of about 84 I think from memory. I tramped over many grave sites, found an Irish cross fallen over, flooded and looking dreadful. Could not deciper the name of the person, so 'assumed' it was my great grandfather. Best I could do. Well, it COULD be his...........er.....er.... Because of the hot weather, lack of preservation, people were buried not far from where they died. I am sure he is buried on a property, with about 30 others, at a local area, but cannot have access to them all as the man who owns it does not let people in. Story goes that he purchased the place, knowing the graves were there, and was not supposed to 'fence them in', e.g. he was to make the fence do a dog leg, but of course, he didn't. How can people 'buy' consecrated ground?? Then not let the rellies go there?? Dunno. I am sure if he had to do without the small area where the graves are, and had access to them available, it would not affect his monetary return from the property. He has thousands of other acres. It is not god's own country. It is dry and rocky and I am sure he would not miss the few acres, but........... Sorry I cannot tell anyone about other goldfields. Chris Weirman is the man. There were heaps of goldfields, heaps of immigrants, all round Croydon. If anyone wants to contact Chris, ring the local council and ask for his email. robyn shaw. toowoomba.qld. (the bottom end of Qld!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from > croydon? > We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is > left at all? > Linda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > > my great grandfathers grave. > > > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were > buried > > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best > for > > grazing). > > > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when > and > > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from > Pioneers > > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland > on > > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear > died > > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > > her grave next year w! > > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 > and > > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are > more > > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > > clues as to what to do. > > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > > hoping. > > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong Family History Group : > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Eve, Have you seen the book "The Woolshed: A Riverina Anthology" by Peter Freeman, published 1980 ? On pages 192 - 196 are sketches & photos of "Madowla Park", and some early history. No doubt you have tried the Ballan cemetery for the grave you are seeking ? Good luck......Wendy McLennan.

Robyn did you by any chance go near the Gibberton Goldfields not far from croydon? We have someone who died there in 1869 would be interested if anything is left at all? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Robyn Shaw <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > my great grandfathers grave. > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were buried > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best for > grazing). > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

According to the mining accidents site in vic. there were three Mc Naughtons killed. One Andrew in 1872, John 1856 no more date given by a fall of earth at chinamans flat and another in 1893 listed as Marr Mc Nauhton ( could this just mean married?) at sandhurst eaglehawk which is bendigo. There is also a John Mc Naught 28 yrs old single died fall down shaft Castlemaine 1884 10th Nov. http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/miners/mc.htm This link should let you check it out. hope it helps. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley & Doug Stevenson <dands@net-tech.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [GEELONG] directories > Thanks Elaine for James Stewart entry. > So does this mean Directories exist? Are they able to be looked at and where are they housed? These old letters were written by Don McNaughton in 1936 from Scotland to his relations in Australia. He was into Family History then and eager to locate all branches of his tree. Apparently they were in Geelong, Little River, Hawthorn, Kardella and New Zealand. His dates of b. and d. are not accurate and I can't find the supposed death in a mining accident of a John Mc Naughton near Ballarat said to be in the 1880's but very interesting to read. > Seasons Greetings to all from a very warm East Gippsland > Shirley S. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Had a look at the early [DOS] version of Pioneers Index Recorded Death Patrick Rannie b Avoca d. 1862 age 5yrs ref 4209 Fa. Robert Hill Kinnear Mo. Rosalie Magdal Korn also Unnamed Female b Echuca ref 8982. D 1868 ref 3795 Fa. Robert Hill Kinnear Mo. Rosalie Magdal Korn may broaden the horizons somewhat.. ( I also had a Roberts family at Ballanee pre 1850 ) bfn John Eve Anderson wrote: >This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the >now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers.--EDITED > >>poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their >>second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland >> >> >on > > >>27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear >> >> >died > > >>on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 >>(no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I >>have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit >>her grave next year w! >> >> >>>hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 >>> >>> >and > > >>arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. >> >> >>>I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are >>> >>> >more > > >>into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some >>clues as to what to do. >> >> >>>My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's >>> >>> >>hoping. >> >> >>> Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. >>> >>> >>>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>>Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >>>http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >>>http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >>> >>> >>> >>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>Geelong Family History Group : >>http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >> >> >> > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Churches : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > >. > > > -- John Whitehand Melbourne 61 3 93145306 "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery http://www.westegg.com/exupery/

Hi Elaine, I read you answer about Geelong Electoral Rolls. How do you access them? Does anyone have copies and would look up names for a dedicated lurker?? Gillian

Hi Ann, My husband's ancestors John and Mary Ann Devlin arrived on the Marco Polo in September 1852. Although they came from Ireland the Marco Polo sailed from an English port.. According to the shipping documents they were assisted migrants and sponsored by R. H. Kinnear of Connewarre where John worked for 12 months for 50 pounds plus keep. Connewarre is a small farming settlement between Geelong and Barwon Heads. This may give you a different lead in your investigations. regards, Dorothy Devlin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Hello List, > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit her grave next year w! > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some clues as to what to do. > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's hoping. > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Don't live in hope with the burial ground. I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find my great grandfathers grave. Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were buried as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best for grazing). Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the supposed place of burial. robyndehood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Hello List, > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit her grave next year w! > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some clues as to what to do. > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's hoping. > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

This family tracing is a most frustrating business, I have enquired of the now owners of "Ballanee" and the only grave on the property is his mothers. I found the graves of their other two children on "Madowla Park" n/e of Echuca. It has been classified and it was so sad to see the little graveyard and graves in such a bad state when we visited there in 2001. Eve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Shaw" <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > Don't live in hope with the burial ground. > I drove from Toowoomba, near Brisbane, to Croydon in far north Qld to find > my great grandfathers grave. > > Found afghan camel drivers, chinese gold miners, but no great grandfather. > He died in 1888. Local publican. Left a wife and a tribe of kids. > > Many people died up there and now some of the places where they were buried > as now fenced of and private property. You cannot get to them. > > Had similar trouble with Grong Grong. Floods, cattle stamping over them, > more floods (cemeteries are always put on awful ground to keep the best for > grazing). > > Maybe you need to ask a bit more to verify that you can even get to the > supposed place of burial. robyndehood. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eve Anderson" <eanderson@bigfoot.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:20 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] KINNEAR > > > > Hello List, > > I am a new subscriber from W.A.and am looking to find when and > where and on which vessel my GGrandfather Robert Hill Kinnear and his wife > Rosalie Magdalene Catherine and their two children arrived in Australia in > 1852. I have had no luck with passenger lists. I have records from Pioneers > of Pt. Phillip (i know he came out from Scotland in 1839 and returned in > 1844. He took up land on the Mooroobool 1840-41) Married in Dundee 1847. > Sold their farm in Corston (Scotland) June/July 1851, (I have an original > poster for the "Finishing Sale" dated 8th July 1851 in Corston). Their > second child, month old Robert Shiell Kinnear was christened in Scotland on > 27th Oct 1851 and their little 4 year old daughter Rosalie Korn Kinnear died > on the property "Ballanee" (4 miles north of Ballan, Vic on 14th Sep 1852 > (no death reg. for her on the indexes only an entry in the family Bible I > have) and I have this obsession to find where she is buried so I can visit > her grave next year w! > > hen we go across to Vic. They had to have left after the end Oct 1851 and > arrived before he took up "Ballenee" (as it was spelt then) in July 1852. > > I know it's a big ask, but I am hoping some of the historians who are more > into this sort of thing than me, may be able to help me or give me some > clues as to what to do. > > My family motto is "I Live in Hope" above crossed anchors, so here's > hoping. > > Eve Anderson (nee Kinnear) W.A. > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Hello Shirley The information I sent was from the 1855 Electoral Roll. There are Postal Directories at the Geeling Heritage Centre but I'm not sure which years they cover. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley & Doug Stevenson" <dands@net-tech.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [GEELONG] directories > Thanks Elaine for James Stewart entry. > So does this mean Directories exist? Are they able to be looked at and where are they housed? These old letters were written by Don McNaughton in 1936 from Scotland to his relations in Australia. He was into Family History then and eager to locate all branches of his tree. Apparently they were in Geelong, Little River, Hawthorn, Kardella and New Zealand. His dates of b. and d. are not accurate and I can't find the supposed death in a mining accident of a John Mc Naughton near Ballarat said to be in the 1880's but very interesting to read. > Seasons Greetings to all from a very warm East Gippsland > Shirley S. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > >

G'day Shirley, Try http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/miners.htm for John McNaughton. Cheers... Pat... At 17/12/2003 Wednesday09:42 AM, you wrote: >Thanks Elaine for James Stewart entry. >So does this mean Directories exist? Are they able to be looked at and >where are they housed? These old letters were written by Don McNaughton in >1936 from Scotland to his relations in Australia. He was into Family >History then and eager to locate all branches of his tree. Apparently they >were in Geelong, Little River, Hawthorn, Kardella and New Zealand. His >dates of b. and d. are not accurate and I can't find the supposed death in >a mining accident of a John Mc Naughton near Ballarat said to be in the >1880's but very interesting to read. >Seasons Greetings to all from a very warm East Gippsland >Shirley S. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm

Thanks Elaine for James Stewart entry. So does this mean Directories exist? Are they able to be looked at and where are they housed? These old letters were written by Don McNaughton in 1936 from Scotland to his relations in Australia. He was into Family History then and eager to locate all branches of his tree. Apparently they were in Geelong, Little River, Hawthorn, Kardella and New Zealand. His dates of b. and d. are not accurate and I can't find the supposed death in a mining accident of a John Mc Naughton near Ballarat said to be in the 1880's but very interesting to read. Seasons Greetings to all from a very warm East Gippsland Shirley S.