Hello Carolyn, I am looking for the sales of Daws Brothers Wool from Tyaak, Reedy Creek via Broadford. They bought their clip down to be sold in the first sales of the New Year. Thanks for your suggestion I will try the Wool Museum. Margaret

Margaret, Wool sold with whom? I have some personal records re Strachan & Co, however would such archives be at the National Wool Museum in Geelong? Carollyn Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith& Margaret To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Wool Sales Hello, How does one go about finding wool sales in Geelong around 1960? Margaret Stickland ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District Cemeteries : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm

which buildings and where are they located to find documents on our earlier people in Geelong area. I'm coming down to Melbourne in the next 2 months for research and tour around sightseeing too. Erica NSW

Hello, How does one go about finding wool sales in Geelong around 1960? Margaret Stickland

Hi List I was searching the web site Documents Online (PRO UK) and I came across two entries that relate to Geelong so I thought someone may be interested. http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk Gilbert, Napoleon, Licensed Victualler of Geelong, Victoria, 20 February 1856 Lord, Benjamin, Labourer of Newtown near Geelong, Victoria, 24 January 1854 To see wills you will need to purchase a copy (cost usually 3 pounds stg) using the online ordering facility. You will receive an elecronic copy of the original within hours. cheers Grahame Thom

Hello Friends, I would be very grateful for any info re this scheme ...... also any settlers who came out under it. Does anyone have the passenger List for the "Larpent"? Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne, Australia. > The Larpent was the first ship chartered under a J. D Lang immigration scheme > which arrived in Geelong in 1849. J.D.Lang purchased land in Australia then > returned to England and sold the land in ten and twenty acre farms with a > passage to Australia to these The Larpent passengers. > > My Great Great Grandfather and his family were passsengers on this ship. Has > anyone information on the allocation of land at Larpent (west of Colac) and > any other details of this time in the Colac district - 1849 - 1851. > > I have heard that there is a group that meets periodically and are descendants > of The Larpent passengers. Does anyone know how I make contact with this > group? > > I have accessed the information at the Geelong Historical Centre but would > appreciate any further information on this group and the land allocation/times > at Larpent. > > Thanks > Mary Holmes > >

Could SKS please do a lookup for me in "A history of Highton and it's School", page 15, for a reference to Caleb Day. If anybody has info on this gentleman b. approx. 1840 in England, apart from BDM, I would be most grateful. Thanks Dawn Researching Andrews, Muddle, Allan, Day, Simmons

The Larpent was the first ship chartered under a J. D Lang immigration scheme which arrived in Geelong in 1849. J.D.Lang purchased land in Australia then returned to England and sold the land in ten and twenty acre farms with a passage to Australia to these The Larpent passengers. My Great Great Grandfather and his family were passsengers on this ship. Has anyone information on the allocation of land at Larpent (west of Colac) and any other details of this time in the Colac district - 1849 - 1851. I have heard that there is a group that meets periodically and are descendants of The Larpent passengers. Does anyone know how I make contact with this group? I have accessed the information at the Geelong Historical Centre but would appreciate any further information on this group and the land allocation/times at Larpent. Thanks Mary Holmes

Hello Brenda, Good of you to list this death as it may help someone. What are the names of those you cannot find? Maybe that 'someone' can help you. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda <brenda@ozramp.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: [GEELONG] George Clark = William Meaney > I have just been reading through the extra death listings on a page of Geelong 1860 deaths and have noticed there is a chap who's death was recorded under the name WILLIAM MEANEY but went by the name GEORGE CLARK. > > I've had no success at locating the details of a couple of my ancestor's deaths whom I'm sure died in Australia and most probably in Victoria, so I know what it's like to hit a brick wall. > > The details on the certficiate are: > > WILLIAM MEANEY aka GEORGE CLARK > Died: 6th December 1860 at Geelong Hospital > Profession: Seaman > Age: 50 > Cause of death: Bronchitis > Attended by: D. B. Reid, Surgeon > Father & Mother: Not listed > Informant: D. B. Reid, Surgeon, Hospital > Buried: 6th or 8th [ hard to read ] December 1860 at Cemetery, Geelong. > Undertaker: John Jenkins Minister & Witness: - > Born: London Lived In Victoria :13 years > No mention of a marriage or children > A note on the certificate reads "Deceased assumed the name of George Clark, but when dying desired his name to be recorded as William Meaney which he declared to be his correct name". > > Hope this info is of help to someone > > regards Brenda > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm > > >

Hi to everyone who expressed interest in the Trewin family, I mentioned previously that I had seen a booklet on the Trewins. It is called, To a New Land, compiled by Heather Durant. I have borrowed a copy and am happy to provide details off line if anyone wants them. There are details on the following: Lawrence and Ann Trewin John Cossy Trewin Nathan Trewin William and Jane Trewin George and Susannah Trewin Thomas and Deborah Trewin William and Kuriah Trewin Eliza Trewin George and Ann Trewin Grace and Richard White John Trewin William Walter and Emily Trewin James and Jane Trewin Betsy Trewin Titus Trewin Alfred George Trewin Samuel and Elizabeth Trewin James Trewin Jill Ferguson

Ian, it is always welcome to post questions to mailing lists such as this when it relates to the actual list area. Often others have the same questions too or can learn from the advice. I suggest you list a couple of questions and the families you are looking for. You will get better results often if you can supply some details such as dates of birth death marriage, occupation etc about the person/s and what you want to know. These messages can even be searched by people in years to come so you never know when you may have a response. If you are looking in Geelong then try searching in the geelong history centres on line index of books held . http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp Info on visiting them and what they hold is also here http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/index.htm Good luck Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Donaldson <allsure@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Help!!! I need a mentor! > > G'day > > > I would like some help and advice please. > > I have been doing research on my families that have all lived in the Geelong > district, and to now I have had a reasonable amount of success. > > However I have now come to a point where I would appreciate some real > guidance in sorting out dozens of matters that I have little knowledge of. > Some of these are shipping records, unregistered births, places of > residence, IGI records, identification of photos (etc). > > Is there a group or Club that I could contact or would it be OK to ask the > various questions that I have through this group?. > > > Thanks and regards > > > Ian Donaldson > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Hi Ian - depending on where you live I guess the best places to start are the Geelong F amily History Group library, the Geelong Hertiage Centre and the Bellarine Historical Society. All have different resources and volunteers and staff that can talk you through various problems as well as point you in the direction of further research etc. Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Donaldson" <allsure@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Help!!! I need a mentor! > > G'day > > > I would like some help and advice please. > > I have been doing research on my families that have all lived in the Geelong > district, and to now I have had a reasonable amount of success. > > However I have now come to a point where I would appreciate some real > guidance in sorting out dozens of matters that I have little knowledge of. > Some of these are shipping records, unregistered births, places of > residence, IGI records, identification of photos (etc). > > Is there a group or Club that I could contact or would it be OK to ask the > various questions that I have through this group?. > > > Thanks and regards > > > Ian Donaldson > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

G'day Alwynne, He's beginning to sound like one of mine.. Dr Robert John Stuart-Robertson, married 6 times (that I know of) in Australia in 3 different states, 2 of the marriages at the same time so he got done for bigamy in NSW (the 2nd wife of that case, married 3 times but had 2 children by him before they got married!). He was well known for telling "porkies", had several different aliases, served time in NSW, SA & Q'ld for passing bad cheques. He was also charged with malpractice (accelerating a death) in Victoria.. No wonder his son became a politician & a member of the NSW Parliament! Cheers... Pat... At 5/01/2004 Monday08:22 PM, you wrote: >Dear Pat, >Many thanks for that. >The birth you quote is indeed one of mine, even though the mother's name is >given as Lidell instead of Sidell. This is a transcription error which >frequently occurred. >I am in two minds about the shipping item. If it is them, then either they >were married before they came to Australia - in which case why put St Pauls >Melbourne, 1854 as the date of marriage? Or, on the other hand, perhaps they >met outside Aust and travelled as man and wife. Unfortunately both John >O'Shannassy and Mary Ann are not uncommon names, so it's hard to tell. If >they weren't actually married at all, I wonder why not, seeing that they had >4 or 5 children? >Many puzzles! >With thanks, >Alwynne >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <pat@ozonline.com.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:35 AM >Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Inquests 1860's > > > > G'day Alwynne, > > Pre 1850 Victoria was still part of NSW & they still hold many records > > including some BDMs & Immigration. > > I did a quick search online for you at > > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/immigration/indexpphillip/search.asp > > and found the following:- > > > > Assisted immigrants arriving at Port Phillip, 1839-51 > > > > Query: Surname(%Shan%sy), FirstName(%) > > Surname Firstname Vessel Year Reel >Record > > Item > > O'SHANNESSY John and Mary New Liverpool 1849 2144 4/4816, p.339 > > From the NSW BDM site http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm > > (Last 4 digits of reg# =year & V prefix (usually) = Vic). > > > > Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given > > Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) > > V18571786 142A/1857 O`SHANESSY PATRICK > > J JOHN MARY > > V18605412 142B/1860 SHANNESSY MARY > > A JOHN MARY A > > > > And from the Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 > > Surname: OSHANNESSY > > Given Names: Mary Ann > > Event: D > > Sex: F > > Spouse Surname/Father: Liddel Jno > > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Phoebe UNKNOWN > > Age: 69 > > Age Code: > > Birth Place: > > Death Place: Glong > > Year: 1891 > > Reg. Number: 6251 > > > > > > Might be of some help? > > Cheers... > > Pat.. > > > > > > At 4/01/2004 Sunday12:19 AM, you wrote: > > >Dear Linda, > > >If only I knew the answers to those questions! > > >I wouldn't put it past him to have changed his name, but unfortunately I > > >don't know who his parents were. On the birth certificates for his >children > > >he gives his birth place as Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland. The Church >of > > >Ireland parish register is in the church Library in Dublin, and I had a > > >researcher look for bdms of that name. None! Ironically, I had the same > > >experience looking for his wife's birth. Her name was Mary Ann Sidell, >born > > >Lynn, Norfolk, but again, nothing in any of the parish registers for >Lynn. > > >Sshe is buried in the Eastern Cemetery in the very large Scott grave - >and I > > >can't find any connection with the Scott family. Her husband isn't in any >of > > >the Geelong district cemeteries. > > >The two were married at St Paul's, Melbourne, in 1854 (according to the > > >childrens' birth certificates) - but again, no record of in Vic BDMs nor >in > > >the St Paul's register - nor in any other St Pauls in the Geelong/Melb >area! > > >To add to the dismal story, the child born in 1865 (Alfred Currie > > >O'Shannassy) is not in Vic BDM. His death certificate says he was born in > > >Geelong, but I haven't found him in any parish registers. His death > > >certificate gives his father as John Martin O'Shannassy - but whether >that > > >is so is in question. > > >I have searched for connections between Currie and Sidell and >O'Shannassy, > > >but have found none. > > >So, I am stumped! > > >The only other thing I know is that there was a story in the family that >he > > >died "somewhere in the China Sea", and that he might have been a seaman - > > >possibly before his arrival in Australia, or even after he shot through >when > > >his business failed. I have searched for the arrival in Aust for both he >and > > >his wife, again, unsuccessfully. > > >I suppose everyone has someone like this pair in their families, but >truly, > > >I am driven to desperation by them! > > >Cheers, > > >Alwynne > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> > > >To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:08 AM > > >Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Inquests 1860's > > > > > > > > > > Alwynne, > > > > sounds to me like he may have changed his name if he was on the run so >to > > > > speak from his debtors. What was his mothers name? or his wifes he may > > >have > > > > used that or just taken one he fancied. > > > > Do you know his parents I could try a Vital records search on them > > > > possibly.? where is the wife buried? he could be there also. > > > > I assume you have the 1865 childs birth cert. It usually gives the >fathers > > > > occupation too and who was the informant. Of course 1859, he may have > > >taken > > > > off for the goldfields to redeem himself too. > > > > good luck > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > pat@ozonline.com.au > > www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) > > ICQ# 17057235 > > PO Box 65A > > Armadale, 3143 > > Victoria, Australia > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Cemeteries : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

G'day I would like some help and advice please. I have been doing research on my families that have all lived in the Geelong district, and to now I have had a reasonable amount of success. However I have now come to a point where I would appreciate some real guidance in sorting out dozens of matters that I have little knowledge of. Some of these are shipping records, unregistered births, places of residence, IGI records, identification of photos (etc). Is there a group or Club that I could contact or would it be OK to ask the various questions that I have through this group?. Thanks and regards Ian Donaldson

forgot to say ian. you know nsw bdm, births deaths and marriages are on line. you can check for your name there. they could be there and not in geelong always. i have a cd for vic and qld if any help. robyn again... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Donaldson" <allsure@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Help!!! I need a mentor! > > G'day > > > I would like some help and advice please. > > I have been doing research on my families that have all lived in the Geelong > district, and to now I have had a reasonable amount of success. > > However I have now come to a point where I would appreciate some real > guidance in sorting out dozens of matters that I have little knowledge of. > Some of these are shipping records, unregistered births, places of > residence, IGI records, identification of photos (etc). > > Is there a group or Club that I could contact or would it be OK to ask the > various questions that I have through this group?. > > > Thanks and regards > > > Ian Donaldson > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > >

give us info....one bit at a time...we are all a bit like finding rellies - a bit slow....robyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Donaldson" <allsure@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Help!!! I need a mentor! > > G'day > > > I would like some help and advice please. > > I have been doing research on my families that have all lived in the Geelong > district, and to now I have had a reasonable amount of success. > > However I have now come to a point where I would appreciate some real > guidance in sorting out dozens of matters that I have little knowledge of. > Some of these are shipping records, unregistered births, places of > residence, IGI records, identification of photos (etc). > > Is there a group or Club that I could contact or would it be OK to ask the > various questions that I have through this group?. > > > Thanks and regards > > > Ian Donaldson > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm > >

Dear Pat, Many thanks for that. The birth you quote is indeed one of mine, even though the mother's name is given as Lidell instead of Sidell. This is a transcription error which frequently occurred. I am in two minds about the shipping item. If it is them, then either they were married before they came to Australia - in which case why put St Pauls Melbourne, 1854 as the date of marriage? Or, on the other hand, perhaps they met outside Aust and travelled as man and wife. Unfortunately both John O'Shannassy and Mary Ann are not uncommon names, so it's hard to tell. If they weren't actually married at all, I wonder why not, seeing that they had 4 or 5 children? Many puzzles! With thanks, Alwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <pat@ozonline.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Inquests 1860's > G'day Alwynne, > Pre 1850 Victoria was still part of NSW & they still hold many records > including some BDMs & Immigration. > I did a quick search online for you at > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/immigration/indexpphillip/search.asp > and found the following:- > > Assisted immigrants arriving at Port Phillip, 1839-51 > > Query: Surname(%Shan%sy), FirstName(%) > Surname Firstname Vessel Year Reel Record > Item > O'SHANNESSY John and Mary New Liverpool 1849 2144 4/4816, p.339 > From the NSW BDM site http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm > (Last 4 digits of reg# =year & V prefix (usually) = Vic). > > Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given > Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) > V18571786 142A/1857 O`SHANESSY PATRICK > J JOHN MARY > V18605412 142B/1860 SHANNESSY MARY > A JOHN MARY A > > And from the Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 > Surname: OSHANNESSY > Given Names: Mary Ann > Event: D > Sex: F > Spouse Surname/Father: Liddel Jno > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Phoebe UNKNOWN > Age: 69 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Glong > Year: 1891 > Reg. Number: 6251 > > > Might be of some help? > Cheers... > Pat.. > > > At 4/01/2004 Sunday12:19 AM, you wrote: > >Dear Linda, > >If only I knew the answers to those questions! > >I wouldn't put it past him to have changed his name, but unfortunately I > >don't know who his parents were. On the birth certificates for his children > >he gives his birth place as Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland. The Church of > >Ireland parish register is in the church Library in Dublin, and I had a > >researcher look for bdms of that name. None! Ironically, I had the same > >experience looking for his wife's birth. Her name was Mary Ann Sidell, born > >Lynn, Norfolk, but again, nothing in any of the parish registers for Lynn. > >Sshe is buried in the Eastern Cemetery in the very large Scott grave - and I > >can't find any connection with the Scott family. Her husband isn't in any of > >the Geelong district cemeteries. > >The two were married at St Paul's, Melbourne, in 1854 (according to the > >childrens' birth certificates) - but again, no record of in Vic BDMs nor in > >the St Paul's register - nor in any other St Pauls in the Geelong/Melb area! > >To add to the dismal story, the child born in 1865 (Alfred Currie > >O'Shannassy) is not in Vic BDM. His death certificate says he was born in > >Geelong, but I haven't found him in any parish registers. His death > >certificate gives his father as John Martin O'Shannassy - but whether that > >is so is in question. > >I have searched for connections between Currie and Sidell and O'Shannassy, > >but have found none. > >So, I am stumped! > >The only other thing I know is that there was a story in the family that he > >died "somewhere in the China Sea", and that he might have been a seaman - > >possibly before his arrival in Australia, or even after he shot through when > >his business failed. I have searched for the arrival in Aust for both he and > >his wife, again, unsuccessfully. > >I suppose everyone has someone like this pair in their families, but truly, > >I am driven to desperation by them! > >Cheers, > >Alwynne > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Linda Edwards" <edwslsj@alphalink.com.au> > >To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:08 AM > >Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Inquests 1860's > > > > > > > Alwynne, > > > sounds to me like he may have changed his name if he was on the run so to > > > speak from his debtors. What was his mothers name? or his wifes he may > >have > > > used that or just taken one he fancied. > > > Do you know his parents I could try a Vital records search on them > > > possibly.? where is the wife buried? he could be there also. > > > I assume you have the 1865 childs birth cert. It usually gives the fathers > > > occupation too and who was the informant. Of course 1859, he may have > >taken > > > off for the goldfields to redeem himself too. > > > good luck > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > pat@ozonline.com.au > www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) > ICQ# 17057235 > PO Box 65A > Armadale, 3143 > Victoria, Australia > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > > >

G'day Brenda, Out of curiosity I checked the Pioneer Index and found that his death was listed under both names with the same Reg # though I'm sure many others weren't. He wasn't one I been fruitlessly chasing but thanks for posting it on the list. Cheers... Pat.. At 5/01/2004 Monday01:39 PM, you wrote: >I have just been reading through the extra death listings on a page of >Geelong 1860 deaths and have noticed there is a chap who's death was >recorded under the name WILLIAM MEANEY but went by the name GEORGE CLARK. > >I've had no success at locating the details of a couple of my ancestor's >deaths whom I'm sure died in Australia and most probably in Victoria, so I >know what it's like to hit a brick wall. > >The details on the certficiate are: > >WILLIAM MEANEY aka GEORGE CLARK >Died: 6th December 1860 at Geelong Hospital >Profession: Seaman >Age: 50 >Cause of death: Bronchitis >Attended by: D. B. Reid, Surgeon >Father & Mother: Not listed >Informant: D. B. Reid, Surgeon, Hospital >Buried: 6th or 8th [ hard to read ] December 1860 at Cemetery, Geelong. >Undertaker: John Jenkins Minister & Witness: - >Born: London Lived In Victoria :13 years >No mention of a marriage or children >A note on the certificate reads "Deceased assumed the name of George >Clark, but when dying desired his name to be recorded as William Meaney >which he declared to be his correct name". > >Hope this info is of help to someone > >regards Brenda > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Mailing List Information : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

I have just been reading through the extra death listings on a page of Geelong 1860 deaths and have noticed there is a chap who's death was recorded under the name WILLIAM MEANEY but went by the name GEORGE CLARK. I've had no success at locating the details of a couple of my ancestor's deaths whom I'm sure died in Australia and most probably in Victoria, so I know what it's like to hit a brick wall. The details on the certficiate are: WILLIAM MEANEY aka GEORGE CLARK Died: 6th December 1860 at Geelong Hospital Profession: Seaman Age: 50 Cause of death: Bronchitis Attended by: D. B. Reid, Surgeon Father & Mother: Not listed Informant: D. B. Reid, Surgeon, Hospital Buried: 6th or 8th [ hard to read ] December 1860 at Cemetery, Geelong. Undertaker: John Jenkins Minister & Witness: - Born: London Lived In Victoria :13 years No mention of a marriage or children A note on the certificate reads "Deceased assumed the name of George Clark, but when dying desired his name to be recorded as William Meaney which he declared to be his correct name". Hope this info is of help to someone regards Brenda

Begin forwarded message: > From: Dean Anthony <rainford@ihug.com.au> > Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 1:06:38 AM Australia/Melbourne > To: <john@sebire.org> > Cc: Peter Coombs <petensha@alphalink.com.au>, Geelong Family History > <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Coombs & Ellis > > HI, > > Thanks for information. Sarah seems to be a wildcard. Do you have any > further information on Henry Ellis? Do you have a Sarah Erickson in > your line? All I have is what is listed below. Look forward to > hearing from you again. > > > > Dean > > Name: Henry William Ellis > > Marriage: 1876 > > Spouse: Louisa COOMBS > > Birth: 1850 Ceres, Victoria, Australia. > Death: 3 Mar 1922 Newtown, Geelong, Victoria, Australia Age: 72 > Father: Henry COOMBS (1822-1903) > Mother: Ann HODDINOTT (1818-1884) > > Last Modified: 3 Jan 2004 > Created: 4 Jan 2004 > > Name: Thomas Henry ELLIS > > Birth: 1883 > Father: Thomas ELLIS > Marriage: 4 Aug 1913 Somerset > > Spouse: Mary Taylor HODDINOTT, GG Granddaughter > > Birth: 1869 > Father: John HODDINOTT (1842-1921) > Mother: Martha TAYLOR > Name: Samuel WEEKES1 > > Birth: 12 Apr 1829 Bexley, Kent, England > Death: 17 Mar 1891 Lyman, Madison, ID Age: 61 > Christen: 6 Nov 1829 Bexley Parish, Welling, Kent, England2 > Burial: Mar 1891 Archer, Madison, ID > Father: Sr. Robert WEEKES Sr. (1790-1853) > Mother: Mary Ann BALDRY (1799-1888) > Other spouses: Mary Eliza SAWYER > Marriage: 30 Mar 1867 > > Spouse: Sarah ERICKSON1 > > Birth: abt 1831 > > Notes for Samuel WEEKES > BABTISM: 1 SEP 1850 ENDOWMENT: 14 JAN 1865 SEALED/PARENTS: 15 JAN > 193824 > SEP 1884 25 SEP 1884 Merged General Note: Samuel was born in either > Bexley, Welling or East Wickham, Kent ,England. > On Samuel's brother Benjamin, you only have is birth date. He died on > 13 Jun 1852 - accidentally drowned while crossing the Platt River > (somewhere between the states of Nebraska and Wyoming, I think). > Samuel Weekes' father Robert was age 60 when he came over. He was in > poor health and died somewhere near Fort Laramie, Wyoming. > Samuel's Sister, Elizabeth, married John Heath on 31 Jan 1847. The > book says they had several children before moving to Australia. We > don't have any information on this line of the family. I wonder if > they moved to your part of Australia, since the family was close to > the Sawyers????? After all, Samuel married Mary Eliza Sawyer and > their son Robert Friend Weekes married Mary Eliza's niece, Louise > (daughter of William Sawyer IV, and Anne Cohen). Anyway, it's a > possibility. > regarding your record on Samuel Weekes - below: Samuel Weekes died > in Lyman, Madison County, Idaho on 17 Mar 1891 and was buried in > Archer, Madison, Idaho. > Samuel married Mary Eliza Sawyer in Kent, England (not Salt Lake City) > - remember, Samuel and his wife, Mary Eliza came to America with > brother in law, Charles Jones and brother, Benjamin. > According to the Weekes/Munns Family Book, Charles Jones' wife, Mary > Anne Weekes didn't come over to America until 1853 - "thus Mary Ann > was the first Weekes to actually set foot in Salt Lake City" (since > Samuel stayed in Nebraska to earn money to come west, and Benjamin > drowned on the way). This is about all I know of the family. Hope > this helps. > > Karren Brown > > Mary Eliza and her husband, Charles Jones and wife Mary Ann Weekes & > Benjamin Weekes left England sailing on the "Ellen Maria," from > Liverpool, 7 February 1852. After reaching New Orleans they continued > by river steamer up to the Mississippi River to St. Louis, Missouri. > Here they were met by Elder Abraham Smoot who acted as agent for The > Perpetual Immigration Fund Saints, which numbered 182, and purchased > supplies for the families to emigrate to Utah. However, Samual and > Mary Eliza stayed in the east. Several years after the other family > members arrived in Utah Samual wanted to come West to join his mother > and brothers and sisters in Utah. Samual, Mary Eliza and family came > from Nebraska to Smithfield, but later moved to Lyman, Bingham County, > Idaho, making their home just a little way east of the store at > Archer, adjoining the old Charles Briggs place. The fifth child of > Samual and Mary Eliza was named in honour of his brother who was > instrumental in getting the family to the West. This child was named > Lorenzo Sidney. He eventually moved his family to Swan Valley. Karren > Brown is his great-grandaughter. > > > > Sources > 1. Imported GEDCOM file, GEDCOM file imported on 25 Jul 1999., Karen > Brown, 1208 S. 5th Avenue,, Yakima, WA 98902. > MarDean Cook Weeks is Karen Brown's Mother > 2. Dean Anthony, Great Great Grandson of Phoebe Maria Sawyer, Great > Grandson of Phoebe Marie Sawyer (daughter of Phoebe Marsh and, William > Sawyer). > > > Last Modified: 28 Aug 2002 > Created: 4 Jan 2004 > > > >> > > > > > > >> Dean, found the following births >> Given Names: Elizabeth >> Sex: Female >> Father: Henry >> Mother: Ann Hoddinett >> Place of Birth: Ceres >> Year: 1861 >> Reg.No.: 2886 >> >> Given Names: Henry >> Sex: Male >> Father: Henry >> Mother: Ann Hoddinott >> Place of Birth: Barr. >> Year: 1862 >> Reg.No.: 14701 >> >> Given Names: John >> Sex: Male >> Father: Henry >> Mother: Ann Hoddinett >> Place of Birth: B'Bool Hills >> Year: 1858 >> Reg.No.: 7199 >> >> Given Names: Mary >> Sex: Female >> Father: Henry >> Mother: Ann Hoddinett >> Place of Birth: 1857 >> Year: 1857 >> Reg.No.: 2595 >> >> The following deaths were >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: Ann >> Father: Houdnott >> Place of Death: G'long >> Age: 68 >> Year: 1884 >> Reg.No.: 12455 >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: Sarah Ann >> Father: Henry >> Mother: Ann Hodinott >> Place of Birth: Barr. >> Age: 11 >> Year: 1863 >> Reg.No.: 1401 >> >> Possible relevant marriages are: >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: Henry >> Sex: Male >> Place of Birth: Barrabool Hills >> Spouse Surname: Beek >> Spouse Given Names: Mary Elizabeth >> Year: 1886 >> Reg.No.: 219 >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: John >> Sex: Male >> Place of Birth: Ceres >> Spouse Surname: Timewell >> Spouse Given Names: Helen >> Year: 1886 >> Reg.No.: 3991 >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: Mary >> Sex: Female >> Place of Birth: Geelong >> Spouse Surname: West >> Spouse Given Names: Henry Stanley >> Year: 1887 >> Reg.No.: 2295 >> >> Surname: Coombes >> Given Names: Mary Ann >> Sex: Female >> Place of Birth: Geelong >> Spouse Surname: Phillips >> Spouse Given Names: Thos Jno >> Year: 1884 >> Reg.No.: 5845 >> >> Surname: Coombs >> Given Names: Louisa >> Sex: Female >> Spouse Surname: Ellis >> Spouse Given Names: Henry William >> Year: 1876 >> Reg.No.: 1548 >> I am interested in this as my wife has Ellis from Connewarre (near >> Geelong) >> in her family. Her g-grandmother was Wilhelmina Ellis who married >> Carl >> Erickson in Geelong on 22 October 1870. We have some further details >> if >> this fits your family. >> >> Surname: Coombes >> Given Names: Elizabeth >> Sex: Female >> Place of Birth: Geelong >> Spouse Surname: Froud >> Spouse Given Names: John >> Year: 1872 >> Reg.No.: 2076 >> >> There are some other possible marriages but no Sarah births. Could >> it be >> that Sarah Ann was born in England? It doesn't appear that is likely >> as I >> lloked at >> http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp , >> put in Coombs and from the 20 names cames up with the following on >> the ship >> Sir George Seymour on the May 1849 arrival listed in Book 5A on Page >> 10 --- >> with infant I, Ann I, Louisa 1, and Thomas 2 and on Page 12 Ann 28, >> Emma 12 >> and Henry 26. If you have not seen this information before it would >> probably be a good idea to look at the copies of the original records >> on >> microfische; we have them at our local library. Sorry to waffle on >> so long, >> >> John Sebire >> Lilydale, Victoria >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dean Anthony [mailto:rainford@ihug.com.au] >> Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2004 02:17 PM >> To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could someone with access to the BDM cd-rom please check the details >> for the three children listed below for Henry Coombs. We have two >> Sarahs running at the one time. Is Sarah Ann listed as Mary Ann? Any >> information on Sarah born 1856? >> >> Thanks >> >> Dean >> >> >> Name: Henry COOMBS1 >> >> Birth: 1 Sep 1822 Upton Noble >> Death: 1 Feb 1903 Ceres, Nr. Geelong, Australia Age: 80 >> Burial: 3 Feb 1903 Highton Cemetery Geelong. MET 2***251 >> Religion: Methodist >> Father: Thomas COOMBES >> Mother: Elizabeth JUKES (1779-1833) >> Marriage: 18 Feb 1846 St.Mary, Witham Friary, Somerset >> Marriage Memo: 3rd. Banns >> >> Spouse: Ann HODDINOTT2 >> >> Birth: 1818 Frome, Someerset >> Death: 29 Dec 1884 Barrabool. Hills, Vict, Australia from Disease of >> the Spine. Duration of 10 years. Age: 66 >> Burial: 31 Dec 1884 Highton Cemetery Geelong. Methodist Block 2. 253 >> No >> other persons in grave. >> Christen: 23 May 1818 St John the Baptist, Frome >> Religion: C of E >> Father: George HODDINOTT (1793-1833) >> Mother: Mary CLARK (ch. 1795-) >> Other spouses: George HODDINOTT, G Grandson >> >> >> 4 F: Louisa COOMBS >> Birth: 1850 Ceres, Victoria, Australia. >> Death: 3 Mar 1922 Newtown, Geelong, Victoria, Australia Age: 72 >> Spouse: Henry William Ellis >> Marriage: 18765 >> >> F: Sarah Ann ( Mary ) COOMBS >> Birth: 21 Mar 1852 Barrabool. Hills, Vict, Australia. >> Death: 1863 Barrabool Hills. Age: 10 >> Burial: 28 Mar 1863 HIghton Cemetery Geelong. MET X**X >> >> >> 7 F: Sarah COOMBS >> Birth: 1856 >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> >> >>