Hello Everyone, Many thanks for all your help. I took the advice of " Dorothy" and entered only the year and BDM no (Victorian not local) and came up with my person. The KISS principal worked in this case. Regards, Peter _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

Although I don't need help locating the Birth certificate I would like to say I do not reley on Maxi. I have my g grand father's birth certificate and have all the correct numbers, but he does not come up on Maxi, nor does most his family. I tried many different spellings along with just the year and ref. number. Maybe some registrations are missing. I did find mine not on the CD, but on good old fashion fishe. Mine is not from Geelong, but South Melbourne so it is not just the Geelong area. Food for thought. Caroline Trezise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Sullivan" <sullivan2076@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Help required with locating a birth certificate > Hello, > > I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. > I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > > I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth > (Geelong) and a registration number. > However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. > > The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with the > age of the person. >

HI, I have no evidence of this. Dean On Friday, January 16, 2004, at 08:41 AM, s&g wrote: > Hi Dean > Did you Hoddinott come to Western Australia > sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Anthony" <rainford@ihug.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:11 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Ann Hoddinott > > >> >> On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 09:16 PM, Peter Coombs wrote: >> >>> Hi Dean >>> >>> Wandered down to Geelong on Friday. Few digital pics attached. Just >>> for the >>> record. Ironically, my father is also buried at Highton Cemetery. At >>> the >>> time we weren't aware of any other Coombs' on site. >>> >>> Also went to the Geelong Historical Society. Update on Henry and >>> Ann's >>> kids...(my list) >>> >>> Thomas D 15.2.1849 >>> Louisa D 26.2.1849 >>> Thomas B 1949 >>> Louisa B 1950 >>> Sarah Ann B 1852 >>> George B 1854 >>> Mary 1857 >>> John 1858 >>> Elizabeth 1861 >>> Henry 1962 >>> >>> Let me know where we vary >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dean Anthony [mailto:rainford@ihug.com.au] >>> Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2004 12:45 PM >>> To: Peter Coombs >>> Subject: Ann Hoddinott >>> >>> >>> HI, >>> >>> I dug out Ann's death cert. just before. Her place of birth is given >>> as >>> Somerset. Under the " issue" column 7 children only are mentioned. >>> It >>> seems they listed living issue not deceased. A Sarah is mentioned >>> aged >>> 28. Seems strange there is no birth cert. for this Sarah. Mary Coombs >>> is not mentioned, although still living. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Dean >>> >>> <Ann Henry headstone.JPG><ann hen children >>> headstone.JPG><Unmarked.JPG><Henry Coombs death notice.JPG> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >> Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : >> http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

Hi Dean Did you Hoddinott come to Western Australia sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Anthony" <rainford@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ann Hoddinott > > On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 09:16 PM, Peter Coombs wrote: > > > Hi Dean > > > > Wandered down to Geelong on Friday. Few digital pics attached. Just > > for the > > record. Ironically, my father is also buried at Highton Cemetery. At > > the > > time we weren't aware of any other Coombs' on site. > > > > Also went to the Geelong Historical Society. Update on Henry and Ann's > > kids...(my list) > > > > Thomas D 15.2.1849 > > Louisa D 26.2.1849 > > Thomas B 1949 > > Louisa B 1950 > > Sarah Ann B 1852 > > George B 1854 > > Mary 1857 > > John 1858 > > Elizabeth 1861 > > Henry 1962 > > > > Let me know where we vary > > > > Cheers > > > > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dean Anthony [mailto:rainford@ihug.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2004 12:45 PM > > To: Peter Coombs > > Subject: Ann Hoddinott > > > > > > HI, > > > > I dug out Ann's death cert. just before. Her place of birth is given as > > Somerset. Under the " issue" column 7 children only are mentioned. It > > seems they listed living issue not deceased. A Sarah is mentioned aged > > 28. Seems strange there is no birth cert. for this Sarah. Mary Coombs > > is not mentioned, although still living. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dean > > > > <Ann Henry headstone.JPG><ann hen children > > headstone.JPG><Unmarked.JPG><Henry Coombs death notice.JPG> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

G'day Ada, I've found several BDM records on the Hatches, Matches & Despatches CD (Ballarat Church records) that are not in the Digger Indexes. Cheers... Pat.. At 15/01/2004 Thursday08:48 AM, you wrote: >Hello Diane, > >Did you make a note of the missing marriages? > > >I'm writing an article on "Missing marriages" starting with the CofE >non-registered ministers which research began in the Attorney General's >Correspondence, went to CofE archives, and the Ararat early newspapers. >Also the unregistered marriages of Rev Waterfield 1838-40, NSW maverick >presbyterian marriages disallowed by the courts, and a list of CofE BDM at >Bendigo And maybe the early NSW marriages performed after Gov Bligh was >deposed and anulled by the UK government.... and whatever other anomalies >I can find. Just to whet the appetite. Since I've actually said I will >submit it, I would like to cover as many anomalies as I can > >I've just heard that Portland has a local list of unregistered marriages >and am wondering if the listing you refer to could be similar. It may be >sufficient to just refer to the whereabouts of the list so people can >search for themselves (that's how the NSW presbyterian list will be >referred to, as I have not seen it myself). > >Of course, such an article cannot answer all the queries out there, and >could never be definitive, but may alert people and encourage a search >outside the Registrar General's indexes for answers. > >Hopeful..... Regards Ada > > >At 19:24 14-01-04 +1100, you wrote: >>The Geelong Heritage Centre has copies of the indexes to the St.Andrews >>baptisms. I don't think there were any baptisms missing from the Pioneer >>Index. I know I went through all the early St. Andrews baptisms at >>Births, Deaths and Marriages, I don't think any were missing, some of the >>marriages were but not baptisms. >>Dianne Hughes >>Teesdale >> >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>Geelong & District Towns and Regions : >>http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm > >regards, >Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia >formerly Ackerly DocuSearch > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong and District web site : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an O'Sullivan! (Dominic) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

Hello Peter, Perhaps the registration number is local (for Geelong). On certificates this number is often shown in the left gutter of the certificate. These certificates were sent into Melbourne every three months, where they were first arranged by the registration district, alphabetically. Then they were centrally numbered in the centre gutter of the certificate. It is this number which is used in the indexes you use. The Geelong number becomes redundant. Suggest you leave out the registration number in your search, as you probably have the Geelong one. Maybe then the search will work. I always search on mothers maiden name and leave out the family name. That way you get all the children with that mother ... illegitimate, wrong spellings in other names, second families, etc. Hope that helps Regards Ada At 11:40 15-01-04 +1100, you wrote: >Hello, > >I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. >I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > >I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth >(Geelong) and a registration number. >However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. > >The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with >the age of the person. > >Can anyone help? > > >Many Thanks, > >Peter > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to >http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Mailing List Information : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Hello Peter, I'm not sure how anyone can help as you haven't given any details apart from 1880 in Geelong! You say you also have the registration number - is this the LOCAL number or the Victorian number? Better provide the details and then see if anyone can help. Regards ......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Sullivan" <sullivan2076@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Help required with locating a birth certificate > Hello, > > I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. > I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > > I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth > (Geelong) and a registration number. > However when these details are entered, no entry comes up.

what are the details? Cheers... Pat... At 15/01/2004 Thursday11:40 AM, you wrote: >Hello, > >I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. >I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > >I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth >(Geelong) and a registration number. >However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. > >The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with >the age of the person. > >Can anyone help? > > >Many Thanks, > >Peter > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to >http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Mailing List Information : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an O'Sullivan! (Dominic) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

Hi Peter, Try putting in just the year and reg number. If you would like further help, send me the details and I will do a search for you. cheers Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Sullivan" <sullivan2076@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Help required with locating a birth certificate > Hello, > > I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. > I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > > I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth > (Geelong) and a registration number. > However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. > > The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with the > age of the person. > > Can anyone help? > > > Many Thanks, > > Peter > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm >

Hi Peter, Names were often spelt in various ways. Have you tried entering fewer details in your search or using the * option when typing in the name? I have been searching for Delzoppo listings and have found the name was spelt at least 8 different ways - found I get the best results by searching for *ppo OR *ppa OR Del* you might like to try something similar with your name and see if it helps. good luck, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Sullivan" <sullivan2076@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Help required with locating a birth certificate > Hello, > > I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. > I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. > > I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth > (Geelong) and a registration number. > However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. > > The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with the > age of the person. > > Can anyone help? > > > Many Thanks, > > Peter > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm >

Hello, I cannot locate a birth entry in the Victorian BDM index. I have tried via Pioneer Index on microfiche and also via Maxi on-line. I know the name, parents names, year of birth (1880) , place of birth (Geelong) and a registration number. However when these details are entered, no entry comes up. The name is also mentioned on the mother's death certificate along with the age of the person. Can anyone help? Many Thanks, Peter _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

> Margaret GRANT m Arthur Gideon SCOTT, Geelong Parish, 1853 Sharon Arthur Gideon SCOTT - grandson of Arthur and Margaret - married 1906 my grand aunt Margaret McDONALD I have some info on Arthur (Jnr) and his family Do you - or anyone on the list - know who Scott Bros of Geelong were in early 1900's They owned several properties in Dimboola - managed by Fred HAYES Brian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/04

Hello Diane, Did you make a note of the missing marriages? I'm writing an article on "Missing marriages" starting with the CofE non-registered ministers which research began in the Attorney General's Correspondence, went to CofE archives, and the Ararat early newspapers. Also the unregistered marriages of Rev Waterfield 1838-40, NSW maverick presbyterian marriages disallowed by the courts, and a list of CofE BDM at Bendigo And maybe the early NSW marriages performed after Gov Bligh was deposed and anulled by the UK government.... and whatever other anomalies I can find. Just to whet the appetite. Since I've actually said I will submit it, I would like to cover as many anomalies as I can I've just heard that Portland has a local list of unregistered marriages and am wondering if the listing you refer to could be similar. It may be sufficient to just refer to the whereabouts of the list so people can search for themselves (that's how the NSW presbyterian list will be referred to, as I have not seen it myself). Of course, such an article cannot answer all the queries out there, and could never be definitive, but may alert people and encourage a search outside the Registrar General's indexes for answers. Hopeful..... Regards Ada At 19:24 14-01-04 +1100, you wrote: >The Geelong Heritage Centre has copies of the indexes to the St.Andrews >baptisms. I don't think there were any baptisms missing from the Pioneer >Index. I know I went through all the early St. Andrews baptisms at >Births, Deaths and Marriages, I don't think any were missing, some of the >marriages were but not baptisms. >Dianne Hughes >Teesdale > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Towns and Regions : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

The Geelong Heritage Centre has copies of the indexes to the St.Andrews baptisms. I don't think there were any baptisms missing from the Pioneer Index. I know I went through all the early St. Andrews baptisms at Births, Deaths and Marriages, I don't think any were missing, some of the marriages were but not baptisms. Dianne Hughes Teesdale

Thanks to everyone on the list who replied so promptly to my query on O'Callaghan Photographers. I will check out all the sources mentioned. Regards Maria

I have a feeling there is a full list of passengers from the Larpent at the Geelong Heritage Centre. The folder they are in had a strange title, and there were a number of other shipping lists in the folder as well. I really must be getting old I can't remember the title. Dianne Hughes Teesdale

that is a strange message about dungog. never heard of the place. now suddenly i find my rellies, the craigs, went there, and so did yours...they settled there, and he was a blacksmith. he left his wife and 7 children, bet she was pleased - not - and came to qld for 2 years. then back he went, picked them all up for the big journey north to warwick. they had a blacksmith shop there and both died there. robyn shaw. toowoomba. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Geddes" <dawngeddes@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Re: Caleb & Serena Day > Hi List, Happy New Year. > > I am re-listing my interest in Caleb & Serena Day, who arrived on the Great > Tasmania ~1863. They married in England not long before they left on their > great adventure. I have basic BDM information on their children, but > seeking background information. They moved to Sydney, and somehow my > ggrandmother, Minnie Eliza Gertrude Day, ended up in Dungog, NSW and > married William Edward Muddle in 1888. Caleb returned to Geelong at some > stage and died there. Any information would help, as I have nothing other > than basic information in Caleb, Serena or Minnie Eliza's siblings. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Dawn Geddes, Sydney > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hello Maria, No, not a photographer listed in my references. Regards Ada At 15:38 13-01-04 +0000, Maria Brennan wrote: >Has anyone every come across the name of O'Callaghan Photographers on >their old family photographs ? I am trying to determine the origin of a >photograph. I believe it was sent back to Ireland by some of our >relatives who settled in the Geelong area. If anyone can confirm that >this company existed, it would be an enormous help. Unfortunately the >address has been erased so I am missing a vital piece of info. > >Thanks in advance for any suggestions ! >Kind Regards >Maria Brennan > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

OOPS!! Sorry, I didn't mean to send the links.. They won't work... Cheers... Pat... At 14/01/2004 Wednesday09:40 AM, you wrote: >Try:- > "The mechanical eye in Australia : photography 1841-1900" >Authors : ><http://library.portphillip.vic.gov.au/spydus.exe/ENQ/COMB//spydus.exe/NAV/BRWNAV/4e5783ba>Davies, >Alan; Stanbury, Peter; Tanre, Con >Imprint : Melbourne : Oxford University Press, 1985. >or >Australian women photographers, 1840-1960 / by B. Hall & Jenni Mather. >Authors : ><http://library.portphillip.vic.gov.au/spydus.exe/FULL/BSEARCH//spydus.exe/NAV/BSEARCH/1dfae0da>Hall, >Barbara; ><http://library.portphillip.vic.gov.au/spydus.exe/FULL/BSEARCH//spydus.exe/NAV/BSEARCH/21cfd2c9>Mather, >Jenni >Imprint : Melbourne : Greenhouse, 1986. >or >Dating family photos, 1850-1920 / [Lenore Frost]. >Author : ><http://library.portphillip.vic.gov.au/spydus.exe/FULL/BSEARCH//spydus.exe/NAV/BSEARCH/a9d7cea6>Frost, >Lenore >Imprint : Essendon, Vic : L. Frost, 1991 >or >In focus : 150 years of Australian photography / [written by Mimi Colligan]. >Cheers... >Pat... >At 14/01/2004 Wednesday06:57 AM, you wrote: >>Maria, >>came across a book some years ago of 1800 -1900 photographers in victoria. >>It listed where and when they operated, >>Maybe you could try the library, sorry not sure of the name. >>I looked at the state library index which lists one but not the one I think >>I saw. >>Australians behind the camera, directory of early austrlaian photographers >>1841 to 1945 by Sandy Barrie c 2002 ( this makes me think its not the one I >>used but may still give oyu the answer.) call no 770.994 so try in that >>area maybe at the libraries. >>good luck >>Linda >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Maria Brennan <mariabrennan@eircom.net> >>To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:38 AM >>Subject: [GEELONG] O'Callaghan Photographers >> >> >> > Has anyone every come across the name of O'Callaghan Photographers on >>their old family photographs ? I am trying to determine the origin of a >>photograph. I believe it was sent back to Ireland by some of our relatives >>who settled in the Geelong area. If anyone can confirm that this company >>existed, it would be an enormous help. Unfortunately the address has been >>erased so I am missing a vital piece of info. >> > >> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions ! >> > Kind Regards >> > Maria Brennan >> > >> > >> > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >> > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : >> > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >> > >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >>http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >>http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >pat@ozonline.com.au >www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) >Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an >O'Sullivan! (Dominic) >ICQ# 17057235 >PO Box 65A >Armadale, 3143 >Victoria, Australia > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an O'Sullivan! (Dominic) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

Hi Maria There are no O'Callaghan's listed in the book The Mechanical Eye in Australia - Photography 1841-1900 by Alan Davies & Peter Stanbury. It has been recognised that not all photographers for this period are included so suggest you check Australians behind the camera, directory of early austrlaian photographers 1841 to 1945 by Sandy Barrie c 2002. cheers Grahame on 14/1/04 2:38 AM, Maria Brennan at mariabrennan@eircom.net wrote: > Has anyone every come across the name of O'Callaghan Photographers on their > old family photographs ? I am trying to determine the origin of a photograph. > I believe it was sent back to Ireland by some of our relatives who settled in > the Geelong area. If anyone can confirm that this company existed, it would > be an enormous help. Unfortunately the address has been erased so I am > missing a vital piece of info. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions ! > Kind Regards > Maria Brennan > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >