You're very welcome.:-) It's just a small repayment for all the help that I've had over the years. Judy Thomas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births pt 2 > Judy, > > You bloody beauty! > > I have been working and working on those parents, terrific stuff, > thanks a million, take the rest of the day off! > > Stephanie. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Towns and Regions : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 3/02/2004

Thanks for the links Tim. I have a problem accessing data as I live in a small country town in NSW where resources are incredibly limited and more focused on the local area than on Victoria and Tas. Our local library has a total collection of 7 BDM CDs for the whole of Australia. Two of the Victorian Indexes, nothing on Tasmania. Regarding the Tasmanian Archives, you can go to their website www.archives.tas.gov.au and use the link there or you can email them at archives.tasmania@education.tas.gov.au and ask if they can help you with your family research. At least that is how I first approached them :)) There is a charge of around $22 that is invoiced to you when they post out the results of their search, but they'll explain that when they get back to you. That's pretty good value in my book. (Check out the prices that the Bradford Archives charge!) I've been waiting a month now and was advised that it may be another 6 weeks before I get any results... the usual story, they are understaffed and overworked LOL!... but if I get even just one piece of the puzzle then it will be worth it. Sarah Cook is a lady without a past. Every document that lists her has unknown for parents and birthplace. If you go by the age given on her tombstone then she had her last child at age 56! If they can tell me one real fact about her then I will be in seventh heaven. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim van der Poel" <vanderpoel@onthe.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: [GEELONG] question > > >Have you tried the Gold Fields list? > > 2. How to subscribe. just send the command "subscribe" in the body of your > email to > AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > There is also a site which has transcriptions of old newspapers > http://www.oldnewscopy.com/ > > There is also a Fiche entitled something like "arrivals in Victoria from > domestic ports" It is fairly basic generally listing the family name and > things like Mrs ?? and children.. Through a process of elimination I've > found my convicts leaving Hobart Town and arriving in Geelong. > > My convict child (Jane Hewitt) was born in Hobart Town between 1838 - 1840. > I don't think her parents ever married. Her father had left a family in > England. Can you post details of how you went about contacting the Tas > Archives please. > > Tim van der Poel > > > > > >Subject: [GEELONG] question > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Hi List :) > > > >I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was originally > >transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart in 1843 > >where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. They had > >their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the Tasmanian > >Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there is a long > >waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like mine.. > > > >We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after JOHN was > >born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of other > >children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter CAROLINE as > >well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where they lived > >until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents that I > >do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and > >blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death > >certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as well??? > > > >My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to Geelong > >and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong without > >actually purchasing birth certificates? > > > >:) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004 > > Regards from, > > The van der Poel's > Australia > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004

Judy, You bloody beauty! I have been working and working on those parents, terrific stuff, thanks a million, take the rest of the day off! Stephanie.

Hi Judy, Thanks. Have just done that and found both Arthur and Sidney K. It does shed some light on the father Nicholas, which is at least a confirmation. Thanks again, Stephanie.

Okay, decided to go the extra bit. From the AVR COCK Arthur bn Ballarat 1871, Reg.no.6945 Father Nicholas Mother Elizabeth A Crago. Judy Thomas (It's hot in Melbourne, too.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births pt 2 > Sorry Listers, mistake, scrub parents, and add Nicholas COCK for the > father. I got Arthur Snr. and Jnr. mixed up, so what's new, and > typical and all that!. Having a Blonde Moment! > > Regards, > Stephanie. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong and District web site : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 3/02/2004

Hi Stephanie, A search of the National Archives web site(http://www.naa.gov.au/) ( produces COCK Arthur, SERN, (serial no.) 8238, POE (point of enlistment) Adelaide, NOK Father, Nicholas. You can order a digital copy of his service record. Takes about 6 weeks, I have done it several times. He is listed on the Nominal Roll for WWI All of which doesn't help you find his birth, but could add interest to his story. Judy Thomas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births > Hi Listers, > > I am a newbie, and wondering if SKS can help me please. > > Searching for information regarding my husband's Uncle Arthur, about > whom we have VERY little information. > > What we do have is:- > > Certificate of Discharge from the Australian Imperial Expeditionary > Force - "medical unfitness - not due to misconduct". for COCK, > Arthur, 1st tunnelling company, "BORN at or near the Town of > BALLARAT." > > Arthur's Discharge papers state that he was 45 at the time which was > 5/7/1919. > > So a DOB of +- 1874 for Arthur COCK. > I believe Arthur's parents to be Arthur & Mary Elizabeth Cock, nee > Hynes. > > Arthur's bro, my late F in L changed his name by deed poll in 1962 > from Cock to Cocks. > > I hope that SKS may be able to help, and look forward to your reply. > > Regards, > Stephanie Cocks, > Hot, Adelaide. > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 3/02/2004

Thanks for your help Lyn, will do. Steph.

Steph Births for Nicholas & Elizabeth as follows in VIC: COCK, Annie CB 377378 Birth Father: Nicholas Mother: Crago Elizabeth Event Place: Ball Reg Year: 1872 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 21275 COCK, Arthur CB 377383 Birth Father: Nicholas Mother: Crago Elizabeth A Event Place: Ball Reg Year: 1871 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 6945 COCK, Lucy CB 377627 Birth Father: Nicholas Mother: Crago Elizabeth Ann Event Place: Ballarat Reg Year: 1868 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 21014 Did a quick search of the familysearch website and there is some info there - looks like another family member has been doing some research too but unfortunately no details given. Nicholas married Elizabeth Ann Crago 1872 South Australia Other children Constance Jane 9/4/1875 Port Adelaide SA Sidney Herbert 24/06/1877 Port Adelaide SA Ernest Walter 8/6/1880 Port Adelaide SA Died 5/5/1888 Lynden Francis 6/12/1822 Port Adelaide SA all of the above should be double checked If you paste the following into your address line and hit enter it will take you to the site http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Happy hunting Sue (WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births pt 2 > Sorry Listers, mistake, scrub parents, and add Nicholas COCK for the > father. I got Arthur Snr. and Jnr. mixed up, so what's new, and > typical and all that!. Having a Blonde Moment! > > Regards, > Stephanie. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong and District web site : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ >

Do a search at http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html I just tried and there are a few results that come up that might be of help to you. huggles, :)Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births > Hi Listers, > > I am a newbie, and wondering if SKS can help me please. > > Searching for information regarding my husband's Uncle Arthur, about > whom we have VERY little information. > > What we do have is:- > > Certificate of Discharge from the Australian Imperial Expeditionary > Force - "medical unfitness - not due to misconduct". for COCK, > Arthur, 1st tunnelling company, "BORN at or near the Town of > BALLARAT." > > Arthur's Discharge papers state that he was 45 at the time which was > 5/7/1919. > > So a DOB of +- 1874 for Arthur COCK. > I believe Arthur's parents to be Arthur & Mary Elizabeth Cock, nee > Hynes. > > Arthur's bro, my late F in L changed his name by deed poll in 1962 > from Cock to Cocks. > > I hope that SKS may be able to help, and look forward to your reply. > > Regards, > Stephanie Cocks, > Hot, Adelaide. > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004

>Have you tried the Gold Fields list? 2. How to subscribe. just send the command "subscribe" in the body of your email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com. There is also a site which has transcriptions of old newspapers http://www.oldnewscopy.com/ There is also a Fiche entitled something like "arrivals in Victoria from domestic ports" It is fairly basic generally listing the family name and things like Mrs ?? and children.. Through a process of elimination I've found my convicts leaving Hobart Town and arriving in Geelong. My convict child (Jane Hewitt) was born in Hobart Town between 1838 - 1840. I don't think her parents ever married. Her father had left a family in England. Can you post details of how you went about contacting the Tas Archives please. Tim van der Poel >Subject: [GEELONG] question >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi List :) > >I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was originally >transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart in 1843 >where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. They had >their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the Tasmanian >Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there is a long >waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like mine.. > >We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after JOHN was >born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of other >children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter CAROLINE as >well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where they lived >until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents that I >do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and >blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death >certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as well??? > >My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to Geelong >and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong without >actually purchasing birth certificates? > >:) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004 Regards from, The van der Poel's Australia

Sorry Listers, mistake, scrub parents, and add Nicholas COCK for the father. I got Arthur Snr. and Jnr. mixed up, so what's new, and typical and all that!. Having a Blonde Moment! Regards, Stephanie.

Hi Listers, I am a newbie, and wondering if SKS can help me please. Searching for information regarding my husband's Uncle Arthur, about whom we have VERY little information. What we do have is:- Certificate of Discharge from the Australian Imperial Expeditionary Force - "medical unfitness - not due to misconduct". for COCK, Arthur, 1st tunnelling company, "BORN at or near the Town of BALLARAT." Arthur's Discharge papers state that he was 45 at the time which was 5/7/1919. So a DOB of +- 1874 for Arthur COCK. I believe Arthur's parents to be Arthur & Mary Elizabeth Cock, nee Hynes. Arthur's bro, my late F in L changed his name by deed poll in 1962 from Cock to Cocks. I hope that SKS may be able to help, and look forward to your reply. Regards, Stephanie Cocks, Hot, Adelaide.

Hi Leonard Was your FANNING connected to the firm 'Griffiths and Fanning' in the 1850s in Geelong? Jennifer >Hi >I am researching the Dwyer and Fanning Surnames of the Geelong and districts >areas my great great grandfather was Thomas Michael Dwyer he was a >policeman in geelong untill he was assaulted and died of his injuries in >1894 i have a picture of him in is uniform and one out of uniform > >Leonard Tangey > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Mailing List Information : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm --

Thank you to those people that responded to my request. Paulette

Hi List :) I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was originally transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart in 1843 where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. They had their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the Tasmanian Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there is a long waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like mine.. We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after JOHN was born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of other children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter CAROLINE as well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where they lived until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents that I do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as well??? My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to Geelong and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong without actually purchasing birth certificates? :) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004

Hello Paulette, From one who lives in Greensborough, this might be the answer. Regards Joy

Hello Paulette, Coould it be Greensborough? Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne, Australia. > Can anyone tell me what GBORO stands for ? > Digger - Death Index 1921-1985 > Thanks > Paulette

Stands for Greensborough ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: [GEELONG] GBORO - Place Name > Can anyone tell me what GBORO stands for ? > Digger - Death Index 1921-1985 > Thanks > Paulette > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Could be Greensborough Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: [GEELONG] GBORO - Place Name > Can anyone tell me what GBORO stands for ? > Digger - Death Index 1921-1985 > Thanks > Paulette > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Probably GREENSBOROUGH. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Attwood" <atthomes@mackay.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: [GEELONG] GBORO - Place Name > Can anyone tell me what GBORO stands for ? > Digger - Death Index 1921-1985 > Thanks > Paulette > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > > >