Hi Ada, Thanks for that. You're right, the enlargement could have been done at anytime and as I don't have the enlargement I can't gauge when it was done. The photo I have appears to be the original as it is much smaller than the requested enlargement's dimensions on it's reverse. After having a close look at the Oval backing the photo is on, I can see that it has been trimmed - no doubt the original Studio's name was on the discarded portion of the backing. It looks like the origins of this photo will remain a mystery. Thanks Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] help pls: Walsh Bros. Portrait Painters & Enlargers > Hello Brenda, > > It really doesn't matter when Walsh Bros were in business, because they did > a copy enlargement of the photo, which could have been twenty, thirty, > fifty years old when they received it. I don't have them listed as > photographers with a studio, but it could be one I missed (I was given > two photographers last week in business in Melbourne for only one and two > years, respectively). > > Just as we, today, borrow photos of our ancestors from newly found > relatives, and get them copied, so in the past. > > And the people who enlarged and framed copy photographs did not neecssarily > have a photographic studio. ........................................ > Regards Ada > > > At 15:52 07-02-04 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > >On the reverse of the photo is a label by WALSH BROS., Portrait Painters > >& Enlargers, Geelong. > >Does anyone know what years this studio operated in Geelong? > >thank you, > >Brenda

Hi Judy - re the country cemeteries - the best contact isDianne on our list but I think she is away this week so you may need to wait for a relpy. All the cemeteries listed have copies of the headstone transcp / registers etc the Geelong Heritage Centre which you can check. Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Thomas" <judythom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Cemeteries > Dear List, > > Having just made contact with a long unseen second cousin, I will be > spending a weekend in Geelong towards the end of February. I would like > to visit some of the cemeteries where ancestors and relatives are > buried, so am seeking a bit of firsthand knowledge. > > Cemeteries concerned are Lethbridge, Sutherland's Creek, Western > General, Geelong. > > I expect that the first two are small, and possibly no longer in use. > > Can anyone help, please? > > Judy Thomas > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 3/02/2004 > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

love your story of grandma with the 'healthy' face. we can all relate to it i think. my son has a computer programme which can alter stuff. my top lip is disappearing, lines are appearing both sides of my nose...he did a 'alteration' that i am MOST happy with. later on everyone will say what a young grandma....well......i can dream..... robyn. toowoomba. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] help pls: Walsh Bros. Portrait Painters & Enlargers > Hello Brenda, > > It really doesn't matter when Walsh Bros were in business, because they did > a copy enlargement of the photo, which could have been twenty, thirty, > fifty years old when they received it. I don't have them listed as > photographers with a studio, but it could be one I missed (I was given > two photographers last week in business in Melbourne for only one and two > years, respectively). > > Just as we, today, borrow photos of our ancestors from newly found > relatives, and get them copied, so in the past. > > And the people who enlarged and framed copy photographs did not neecssarily > have a photographic studio. > > My great grandmother's photo was enlarged by a framer and "improved" with > pastel and pencil. At the time the photo was taken, she had been very ill > for several years and I think the person ordering the photo must have asked > the "artist" to try to make her well-looking. > > So he filled out her cheeks, then he had to widen her nose to try and > correct the comic effect he had produced, then he had to widen her jaw line > to balance the new features, then he had to thicken her neck to hold up the > heavier head, and, of course, had to alter the neckline of her dress to > accomodate the new neck. The result? A woman with a fine-boned narrow face > finished up looking like a wharf labourer. I can only believe that the > person who paid for and accepted this travesty was happy with it, and had > never seen the woman "in healthy flesh" themselves. > > I copied the enlargement so I could reproduce it if someone wanted the > "healthy" grandma and removed all the pastel and watercolour additions (I > was a professional photograph restorer} with the families' permission and > revealed this beautiful fine-boned woman underneath. > > I've never trusted enlargements as true likenesses ever since. The > difference was a shock. But at least we can now see resemblances to her in > her descendants, because none resemble the "healthy" grandma. The original > was taken late 1870 and the enlargement was done about 1910. > > Regards Ada > > > At 15:52 07-02-04 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > >Could somebody help me. I'm trying to identify a photo. It is of a gent > >and appears to have been taken around 1870-90's by the style of his clothing. > > > >On the reverse of the photo is a label by WALSH BROS., Portrait Painters > >& Enlargers, Geelong. > > > >Does anyone know what years this studio operated in Geelong? > > > >This photo appears to be an enlargement of an original photo as it notes: > >Style: as is Size: 15 x 12. It was to be sent to S. E. Kennedy, Nhill > >by July [if only they'd put the year] and it appears the sitter was the > >Blacksmith at Kaniva. > > > >thank you, > >Brenda > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > >Geelong & District Churches : > >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > > regards, > Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia > formerly Ackerly DocuSearch > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >

Hello Brenda, It really doesn't matter when Walsh Bros were in business, because they did a copy enlargement of the photo, which could have been twenty, thirty, fifty years old when they received it. I don't have them listed as photographers with a studio, but it could be one I missed (I was given two photographers last week in business in Melbourne for only one and two years, respectively). Just as we, today, borrow photos of our ancestors from newly found relatives, and get them copied, so in the past. And the people who enlarged and framed copy photographs did not neecssarily have a photographic studio. My great grandmother's photo was enlarged by a framer and "improved" with pastel and pencil. At the time the photo was taken, she had been very ill for several years and I think the person ordering the photo must have asked the "artist" to try to make her well-looking. So he filled out her cheeks, then he had to widen her nose to try and correct the comic effect he had produced, then he had to widen her jaw line to balance the new features, then he had to thicken her neck to hold up the heavier head, and, of course, had to alter the neckline of her dress to accomodate the new neck. The result? A woman with a fine-boned narrow face finished up looking like a wharf labourer. I can only believe that the person who paid for and accepted this travesty was happy with it, and had never seen the woman "in healthy flesh" themselves. I copied the enlargement so I could reproduce it if someone wanted the "healthy" grandma and removed all the pastel and watercolour additions (I was a professional photograph restorer} with the families' permission and revealed this beautiful fine-boned woman underneath. I've never trusted enlargements as true likenesses ever since. The difference was a shock. But at least we can now see resemblances to her in her descendants, because none resemble the "healthy" grandma. The original was taken late 1870 and the enlargement was done about 1910. Regards Ada At 15:52 07-02-04 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Could somebody help me. I'm trying to identify a photo. It is of a gent >and appears to have been taken around 1870-90's by the style of his clothing. > >On the reverse of the photo is a label by WALSH BROS., Portrait Painters >& Enlargers, Geelong. > >Does anyone know what years this studio operated in Geelong? > >This photo appears to be an enlargement of an original photo as it notes: >Style: as is Size: 15 x 12. It was to be sent to S. E. Kennedy, Nhill >by July [if only they'd put the year] and it appears the sitter was the >Blacksmith at Kaniva. > >thank you, >Brenda > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Churches : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Hi Judy, Have a look at Geelong & District Cemeteries ....... all four are covered. http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm I'm not sure about plot numbers and cemetery plans for Lethbridge and Sutherlands Creek - Dianne on this list may know if they are also available at the Records Centre (now Heritage Centre) or the Family History Group. Dianne may also be able to provide first hand knowledge on those two - I'm sure she'll be reading these messages and reply! For the two Geelong ones you definitely need to contact the Geelong Cemeteries Trust as per the web page before you attempt to go to either. Regards ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Thomas" <judythom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Cemeteries > Dear List, > > Having just made contact with a long unseen second cousin, I will be > spending a weekend in Geelong towards the end of February. I would like > to visit some of the cemeteries where ancestors and relatives are > buried, so am seeking a bit of firsthand knowledge. > > Cemeteries concerned are Lethbridge, Sutherland's Creek, Western > General, Geelong. > > I expect that the first two are small, and possibly no longer in use. > > Can anyone help, please? > > Judy Thomas

G'day Brenda My Great grandfather was a blacksmith in the area around that time frame. Edward Chas BROWN. 1855-1915. If you can scan the photo and forward it I have photos of him of that period and MAY be able to ID it if him. Carl MATTHEWS Paynesville. 3880. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" <brenda@ozramp.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: [GEELONG] help pls: Walsh Bros. Portrait Painters & Enlargers > Hi Everyone, > > Could somebody help me. I'm trying to identify a photo. It is of a gent and appears to have been taken around 1870-90's by the style of his clothing. > > On the reverse of the photo is a label by WALSH BROS., Portrait Painters & Enlargers, Geelong. > > Does anyone know what years this studio operated in Geelong? > > This photo appears to be an enlargement of an original photo as it notes: Style: as is Size: 15 x 12. It was to be sent to S. E. Kennedy, Nhill by July [if only they'd put the year] and it appears the sitter was the Blacksmith at Kaniva. > > thank you, > Brenda > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Churches : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > > >

Dear List, Having just made contact with a long unseen second cousin, I will be spending a weekend in Geelong towards the end of February. I would like to visit some of the cemeteries where ancestors and relatives are buried, so am seeking a bit of firsthand knowledge. Cemeteries concerned are Lethbridge, Sutherland's Creek, Western General, Geelong. I expect that the first two are small, and possibly no longer in use. Can anyone help, please? Judy Thomas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 3/02/2004

Hi Everyone, Could somebody help me. I'm trying to identify a photo. It is of a gent and appears to have been taken around 1870-90's by the style of his clothing. On the reverse of the photo is a label by WALSH BROS., Portrait Painters & Enlargers, Geelong. Does anyone know what years this studio operated in Geelong? This photo appears to be an enlargement of an original photo as it notes: Style: as is Size: 15 x 12. It was to be sent to S. E. Kennedy, Nhill by July [if only they'd put the year] and it appears the sitter was the Blacksmith at Kaniva. thank you, Brenda

William Reynolds was an Architect, he worked with Backhouse. They designed Geelong Grammars City building and planned Flinders National Grammar. He resided in Moorabool Street on 1856/57 Electoral roll. He was born 1827 in Birmingham. A daughter Catherine Edith was born in Geelong August 1859. I would like to contact anyone interested in this family. Rosemary Lyle British Columbia

Notice BALLARAT & DISTRICT GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY INC CEMETERY TOURS BALLARAT OLD CEMETERY Corner Creswick Road & Macarthur Street Saturday 6th March Wednesday 10th March BALLARAT NEW CEMETERY Corner Lydiard & Norman Streets Sunday 7th March All tours start from the gates of the cemeteries at 1.30pm and take approximately 2 hours to complete TOUR FEE ADULTS $6.50 CHILDREN & CONCESSION $4.00 Enquiries: 53 328 751 Daryl Povey Ballarat & District Genealogical Society

Through the first families 2001 project I have traced one of my great grandfather's brother, John Ingram, and his family up to and including his great-great grandchildren. Frustratingly, the contact e-mail address no longer exists - help! Does anyone recognise John or know of his family? The other surnames that appear are Burrows, and Thoonen. Many thanks. Jo

Dear Russ I have accessed your GEDCOM file and found so many of my relatives there. My name is Cassandra McQueen (nee Beckley) My father is Robert Michael Beckley born 27 May 1940 His father was Thomas William Beckley - d in the second world war 1943 ( I think) My grandmother (who married Thomas William Beckley) was Doris Ivy Jean Winfield. I have found that your information on the Beckley's matches with our family tree. Cassie McQueen (nee Beckley) -----Original Message----- From: Russ Preston [mailto:russpreston@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:56 PM To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Suname Interests G'Day Brian, Check out my web site in what I have on the following families : Lethbridge -Knight, Parker Linton - Shearwood Geelong - Jordan, Heard, Kinnersley, Neuschafer Check out my web site at worldconnect.rootsweb.com and search under websites russpreston to see what I have. -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 25, 2004 21:47:44 To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GEELONG] Suname Interests Hi All I have been a subscriber for a while & thought I would list some of my surname interests for the area. Smythesdale - Wilkinson McDonald Clark Lethbridge - Jenkins Knight Parker Linton - Shearwood Geelong - Jenkins Jordan Heard Kinnersley Mathews Neuschafer Neiwand I would love to hear from anyone with a connection. Cheers Bryan Hall http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=fataussie214 ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong and District web site : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ . ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp

Hi Folks, Sorry - just a friendly reminder - especially as there's a good example flooding the mailing list at the moment. I sent a private email to one list member but I think I need to make it a general email to all members. It would be so helpful to ALL list members if you can try to remember to snip out parts of a message you reply to before you send it to the list. Generally it's recommended that you leave in just enough so that others can get the gist of your part of the message (relating to the one you're replying to) but not all the rest of it. I know it's easy to forget - I've definitely been a culprit myself, especially if I'm in "auto" mode! But if you can try to remember and do some snipping I'm sure it would be appreciated by all on the mailing list. This ISN'T a reprimand - just a gentle request! <vbg> .... pat, pat. Regards .... Susie Z

Thank you :))) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Johnson" <skinnyminny@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Cartledge/Cook > Hi Lyn > John Cartledge > Sarah Cook > Married > 24 July 1848 Hobart > Registered Number 1566 > RGD No. 37 > Cheers > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L Wilkinson" <gerryandlyn@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] question > > > > Thanks for the links Tim. I have a problem accessing data as I live in > a > > small country town in NSW where resources are incredibly limited and > more > > focused on the local area than on Victoria and Tas. Our local library > has a > > total collection of 7 BDM CDs for the whole of Australia. Two of the > > Victorian Indexes, nothing on Tasmania. > > > > Regarding the Tasmanian Archives, you can go to their website > > www.archives.tas.gov.au and use the link there or you can email them > at > > archives.tasmania@education.tas.gov.au and ask if they can help you > with > > your family research. At least that is how I first approached them :)) > There > > is a charge of around $22 that is invoiced to you when they post out > the > > results of their search, but they'll explain that when they get back > to you. > > That's pretty good value in my book. (Check out the prices that the > Bradford > > Archives charge!) I've been waiting a month now and was advised that > it may > > be another 6 weeks before I get any results... the usual story, they > are > > understaffed and overworked LOL!... but if I get even just one piece > of the > > puzzle then it will be worth it. Sarah Cook is a lady without a past. > Every > > document that lists her has unknown for parents and birthplace. If you > go by > > the age given on her tombstone then she had her last child at age 56! > If > > they can tell me one real fact about her then I will be in seventh > heaven. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim van der Poel" <vanderpoel@onthe.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:45 PM > > Subject: [GEELONG] question > > > > > > > > > > >Have you tried the Gold Fields list? > > > > > > 2. How to subscribe. just send the command "subscribe" in the body > of your > > > email to > > > AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > There is also a site which has transcriptions of old newspapers > > > http://www.oldnewscopy.com/ > > > > > > There is also a Fiche entitled something like "arrivals in Victoria > from > > > domestic ports" It is fairly basic generally listing the family > name and > > > things like Mrs ?? and children.. Through a process of elimination > I've > > > found my convicts leaving Hobart Town and arriving in Geelong. > > > > > > My convict child (Jane Hewitt) was born in Hobart Town between > 1838 - > > 1840. > > > I don't think her parents ever married. Her father had left a family > in > > > England. Can you post details of how you went about contacting the > Tas > > > Archives please. > > > > > > Tim van der Poel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [GEELONG] question > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >Hi List :) > > > > > > > >I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was > > originally > > > >transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart > in 1843 > > > >where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. > They > > had > > > >their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the > > Tasmanian > > > >Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there > is a > > long > > > >waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like > mine.. > > > > > > > >We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after > JOHN was > > > >born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of > other > > > >children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter > CAROLINE as > > > >well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where > they > > lived > > > >until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents > that > > I > > > >do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and > > > >blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death > > > >certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as > well??? > > > > > > > >My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to > > Geelong > > > >and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong > without > > > >actually purchasing birth certificates? > > > > > > > >:) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > >Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004 > > > > > > Regards from, > > > > > > The van der Poel's > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004 > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Could anybody help with births of two women whose marriage and death certificates give their birthplace as Geelong, but it is possible they were born in Launceston, as their father moved from Geelong to Launceston to Geelong to Launceston. I have checked the Pioneer Index to no avail. Looking for : Annette or Annetta Mann b.c. 1845-6 Mary Emily Florence Mann b.c. 1844 or 1849 (father Mervyn Mann, mother Ellen Jenkisson) Jan Wilson Brisbane

Is anyone working on the above family, please? We LEIGHs were always told that my grandfather Henry Leigh carted stone from McCann's quarry in Ceres "with Henry Lacy" in 1860-61, to build his father's home, "Prospect". I know nothing more of Henry Lacy. As I've just found that a Henry Lacy was a neighbour and ancestor of the Leighs in Branscombe, East Devon, in 1506, I wondered if there's someone out there to exchange stories with. Good hunting, all! Marion

----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Johnson" <skinnyminny@iprimus.com.au> To: ">" <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:24 AM Subject: Cartledge/Cook > Hi Lyn > John Cartledge > Sarah Cook > Married > 24 July 1848 Hobart > Registered Number 1566 > RGD No. 37 > Cheers > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L Wilkinson" <gerryandlyn@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] question > > > > Thanks for the links Tim. I have a problem accessing data as I live in > a > > small country town in NSW where resources are incredibly limited and > more > > focused on the local area than on Victoria and Tas. Our local library > has a > > total collection of 7 BDM CDs for the whole of Australia. Two of the > > Victorian Indexes, nothing on Tasmania. > > > > Regarding the Tasmanian Archives, you can go to their website > > www.archives.tas.gov.au and use the link there or you can email them > at > > archives.tasmania@education.tas.gov.au and ask if they can help you > with > > your family research. At least that is how I first approached them :)) > There > > is a charge of around $22 that is invoiced to you when they post out > the > > results of their search, but they'll explain that when they get back > to you. > > That's pretty good value in my book. (Check out the prices that the > Bradford > > Archives charge!) I've been waiting a month now and was advised that > it may > > be another 6 weeks before I get any results... the usual story, they > are > > understaffed and overworked LOL!... but if I get even just one piece > of the > > puzzle then it will be worth it. Sarah Cook is a lady without a past. > Every > > document that lists her has unknown for parents and birthplace. If you > go by > > the age given on her tombstone then she had her last child at age 56! > If > > they can tell me one real fact about her then I will be in seventh > heaven. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim van der Poel" <vanderpoel@onthe.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:45 PM > > Subject: [GEELONG] question > > > > > > > > > > >Have you tried the Gold Fields list? > > > > > > 2. How to subscribe. just send the command "subscribe" in the body > of your > > > email to > > > AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > There is also a site which has transcriptions of old newspapers > > > http://www.oldnewscopy.com/ > > > > > > There is also a Fiche entitled something like "arrivals in Victoria > from > > > domestic ports" It is fairly basic generally listing the family > name and > > > things like Mrs ?? and children.. Through a process of elimination > I've > > > found my convicts leaving Hobart Town and arriving in Geelong. > > > > > > My convict child (Jane Hewitt) was born in Hobart Town between > 1838 - > > 1840. > > > I don't think her parents ever married. Her father had left a family > in > > > England. Can you post details of how you went about contacting the > Tas > > > Archives please. > > > > > > Tim van der Poel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [GEELONG] question > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >Hi List :) > > > > > > > >I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was > > originally > > > >transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart > in 1843 > > > >where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. > They > > had > > > >their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the > > Tasmanian > > > >Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there > is a > > long > > > >waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like > mine.. > > > > > > > >We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after > JOHN was > > > >born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of > other > > > >children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter > CAROLINE as > > > >well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where > they > > lived > > > >until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents > that > > I > > > >do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and > > > >blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death > > > >certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as > well??? > > > > > > > >My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to > > Geelong > > > >and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong > without > > > >actually purchasing birth certificates? > > > > > > > >:) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > >Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004 > > > > > > Regards from, > > > > > > The van der Poel's > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004 > > > > ______________________________ >

Hi Lyn John Cartledge Sarah Cook Married 24 July 1848 Hobart Registered Number 1566 RGD No. 37 Cheers Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "L Wilkinson" <gerryandlyn@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] question > Thanks for the links Tim. I have a problem accessing data as I live in a > small country town in NSW where resources are incredibly limited and more > focused on the local area than on Victoria and Tas. Our local library has a > total collection of 7 BDM CDs for the whole of Australia. Two of the > Victorian Indexes, nothing on Tasmania. > > Regarding the Tasmanian Archives, you can go to their website > www.archives.tas.gov.au and use the link there or you can email them at > archives.tasmania@education.tas.gov.au and ask if they can help you with > your family research. At least that is how I first approached them :)) There > is a charge of around $22 that is invoiced to you when they post out the > results of their search, but they'll explain that when they get back to you. > That's pretty good value in my book. (Check out the prices that the Bradford > Archives charge!) I've been waiting a month now and was advised that it may > be another 6 weeks before I get any results... the usual story, they are > understaffed and overworked LOL!... but if I get even just one piece of the > puzzle then it will be worth it. Sarah Cook is a lady without a past. Every > document that lists her has unknown for parents and birthplace. If you go by > the age given on her tombstone then she had her last child at age 56! If > they can tell me one real fact about her then I will be in seventh heaven. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim van der Poel" <vanderpoel@onthe.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:45 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] question > > > > > > >Have you tried the Gold Fields list? > > > > 2. How to subscribe. just send the command "subscribe" in the body of your > > email to > > AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > There is also a site which has transcriptions of old newspapers > > http://www.oldnewscopy.com/ > > > > There is also a Fiche entitled something like "arrivals in Victoria from > > domestic ports" It is fairly basic generally listing the family name and > > things like Mrs ?? and children.. Through a process of elimination I've > > found my convicts leaving Hobart Town and arriving in Geelong. > > > > My convict child (Jane Hewitt) was born in Hobart Town between 1838 - > 1840. > > I don't think her parents ever married. Her father had left a family in > > England. Can you post details of how you went about contacting the Tas > > Archives please. > > > > Tim van der Poel > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [GEELONG] question > > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > >Hi List :) > > > > > >I am trying to trace my g g grandfather, JOHN CARTLEDGE who was > originally > > >transported from Nottinghamshire, England as a convict to Hobart in 1843 > > >where he (we assume) met and married his wife, SARAH COOK in 1849. They > had > > >their first child John while in Hobart Town in 1849. I have the > Tasmanian > > >Archives doing a search for me but they have warned me that there is a > long > > >waiting period for results as they are swamped with requests like mine.. > > > > > >We know that they left Hobart Town in great haste shortly after JOHN was > > >born and that they headed for Geelong where they had a number of other > > >children (and buried one son, Edward and possibly a daughter CAROLINE as > > >well) and then they headed off to Buninyong near Ballarat where they > lived > > >until they both died in 1886. His occupation over various documents that > I > > >do have is listed as Cutler (in England), Miner (in Buninyong) and > > >blacksmith. His father was also listed as a blacksmith on his death > > >certificate. So, perhaps he was a blacksmith while in Geelong as well??? > > > > > >My question is there any way I can trace their journey from Tas to > Geelong > > >and is there a way to find where they lived while in Geelong without > > >actually purchasing birth certificates? > > > > > >:) Lyn in West Wyalong, NSW > > > > > > > > >--- > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/31/2004 > > > > Regards from, > > > > The van der Poel's > > Australia > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Cemeteries : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004 > > ______________________________

If he was a serviceman in WW1 you can get copies of all his papers from the War Memorial in Canberra - I did it about 4 years ago and it cost $15. Really great seeing their signature on the enlistment papers on the copies of the original papers... You should be able to be the date of birth from there, Gillian j> A search of the National Archives web site(http://www.naa.gov.au/) ( j> produces COCK Arthur, SERN, (serial no.) 8238, POE (point of enlistment) j> Adelaide, NOK Father, Nicholas. You can order a digital copy of his service j> record. Takes about 6 weeks, I have done it several times. j> He is listed on the Nominal Roll for WWI j> All of which doesn't help you find his birth, but could add interest to his j> story. j> Judy Thomas. j> ----- Original Message ----- j> From: "steph-ken" <steph-ken@bigpond.com> j> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> j> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:38 PM j> Subject: [GEELONG] Ballarat Births

Hello Stephanie, In Lieut Col Neil Smith's book "What's in a name" aliases of AMF 1914-1919: Cock A.C. # 2789 real name Cox, Clive. May be no help at all, possibly not yours, but check the identity number against your records to eliminate it. Regards Ada At 17:08 05-02-04 +1030, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I am a newbie, and wondering if SKS can help me please. > >Searching for information regarding my husband's Uncle Arthur, about >whom we have VERY little information. > >What we do have is:- > >Certificate of Discharge from the Australian Imperial Expeditionary >Force - "medical unfitness - not due to misconduct". for COCK, >Arthur, 1st tunnelling company, "BORN at or near the Town of >BALLARAT." > >Arthur's Discharge papers state that he was 45 at the time which was >5/7/1919. > >So a DOB of +- 1874 for Arthur COCK. >I believe Arthur's parents to be Arthur & Mary Elizabeth Cock, nee >Hynes. > >Arthur's bro, my late F in L changed his name by deed poll in 1962 >from Cock to Cocks. > >I hope that SKS may be able to help, and look forward to your reply. > >Regards, >Stephanie Cocks, >Hot, Adelaide. > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch