Hi Peter, Not sure if you're interested in TRASK on the Bellarine Peninsula but if you haven't already checked, there are plenty on the Bellarine Peninsula Consolidated Names Index ....... http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp Also, someone else researching TRASK on our Geelong & District Surnames of Interest site ....... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdnamezt.htm Regards ...... Susie Z

Another thought ! 1852-3 saw a large number of Scottish families arrive in Geelong under the Auspices of the H & IES.. Given the poor state of nutrition of many of these families on departure and of course the the various fevers/ measles contracted on board might well have contributed to the Number of Infant - Child deaths. From John Mackinnon To Donald Mackinnon Beneteler~ near Portree Bush Station~ Geelong~ September the 29th Dear Brother, I take the opportunity of writing you these few lines, to, let you know that I am in health at present: but I cannot pass the sore news I have to tell you in the beginning, that my little boy, Charles, died on the passage, after eight weeks' sailing 1000 miles west Cape of Good Hope: and it was very sore news to me indeed: but his mother was worse: but we must obey the Lord our God in every thing that he will lay on us. The measles was in the ship, and he got it, and died after being ten days sick. And little Ann took it, but she came safe from it. But I ought to bless God that I have the rest safe, for there were plenty along with me that lost all their children. Some lost three, for death was working busy all the time it continued, But likely it would not be so many, but fore the measles happening to be in the ship. All that came with me from Rasay lost their youngest child: and Donald Gillies.lost his two daughters on the passage; and Kenneth Mackenzie and Donald Lamont lost their youngest too. We were thirteen weeks and two days between the two lands, and we got a fine passage, for John Macqueen's ship would do as he was saying. When I landed here, I hired myself for six months with a shepherd on a station, and got myself and my wife £30, and our meat, during that time; and my wife hath nothing to do, but my meat and washing; and I am very pleased with the place, for all the acquaintance I have got of it. I am five miles from the town, and I never got a rest to my body till now. and I think, if myself and all I have of the family be spared, that I will be a fortunate man yet, for this is the place for plenty gold and silver. But I will not advise any man with weak children to come here, more than two under six years of age, for the passage is dangerous for children, and they will get no food but for them that can work . They must keep the rest up themselves. There were not many deaths among big people, only one man and four women, and the man and two of the women were sick before they came, and another one died in the family way, and another went overboard on a washing day. She was putting up clothes, and she fell over. Any strong one need not be afraid of the passage, whether he is young or old.Me nor my children, nor my wife, did not feel seasickness at all..." bfn John Whitehand Pam & Trevor Jennings wrote: >Hi Marie - maybe because this was the first year of official registration >more children are obvious on BDM Indexes than other years. As churches kept >burial records (especially in Geelong), many babies did not have a minister >in attanedance when they died - just the gravedigger and father so they did >not have their death recorded. Just a thought - Pam Jennings >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marie Lockyer" <luckymarie@optusnet.com.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:49 AM >Subject: [GEELONG] Infant deaths in 1853 > > > > >>In my research I have noticed a high number of infant deaths in the >>Geelong district in the year 1853. Does anyone know if there was an >>epidemic in that time? Marie L >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >>Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >>http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >>http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >> >> >> > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong and District web site : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/ > >. > > > -- John Whitehand Melbourne 61 3 93145306 "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery http://www.westegg.com/exupery/

Hello List, I am trying to trace any family of Rubina Alberta Abbott ( it could read Abbot or Abbit ). She was born at Montagu, Tasmania to William Slater and Isabella Emma Boulter on the 9 July 1899 . She died at Geelong and was buried 2 Nov 1931, only her husband's surname was given. Regards Pat

Hello Dianne Would there be any Milkins or Harper's Regards Geoff Rogers Winchester Hampshire England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Shirley" <gsab@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Birregurra records for those interested > Thanks for this offer Dianne > Any TRASK or FARQUHARSON > Regards > Peter > > Dianne Towers wrote: > > > Dear listers, > > If there is anyone with ancestors from the Birregurra district that may > > have had baptisms, marriages and/or funerals at an Anglican church, I am > > happy to do look ups of the records that I have transcribed. The information > > from my database is available at the Birregurra Historical Society also... > > with love and blessings > > Dianne Towers > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Hi Marie - maybe because this was the first year of official registration more children are obvious on BDM Indexes than other years. As churches kept burial records (especially in Geelong), many babies did not have a minister in attanedance when they died - just the gravedigger and father so they did not have their death recorded. Just a thought - Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Lockyer" <luckymarie@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Infant deaths in 1853 > In my research I have noticed a high number of infant deaths in the > Geelong district in the year 1853. Does anyone know if there was an > epidemic in that time? Marie L > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hi Ken - may I publish your query in our Geelong Family History Group magazine? You and other listers are more than welcome to submit a wirte-up of your family for inclusion - helps me fill pages and hopefully find contacts for you! regards, Pam Jennings (editor) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ken.pickering" <ken.pickering@btopenworld.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: [GEELONG] PENROSE > G'day from York.U.K. > Hello Geelong Listers! > I've recently discovered ancestral links with Geelong & District,& wondered if anyone would be kind enough to put some flesh on the skeletons! Details as follows: > > LAURENCE HENRY PENROSE b HULL,YORKSHIRE 1818.d GEELONG 1908.

Hope the book involves your family!! I think the author is flying down from Qld (or NSW?) for the launch. regards, Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Daniel" <morella@ozconnect.net> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] MUNDAY Family > Many thanks for your kind thought in sending the information through > to me. There certainly is a prolification of Munday/Mundy families > everywhere. Have sent an email to the Heritage Centre. > > Cheers and best wishes > Ann > Bribie Island > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/03 > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions. I only just found Michael's death the other day so I haven't had a chance to look for probate records yet, but that will be one of the next things on my list. I've found them to be a great source of information. Thanks again, Justin Heath McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Advertiser Index > Hi Justin, > > How about Mary McDONALD aged 89, died or buried 26/9/1898, buried Geelong > Eastern, plot unknown. Information from G.A. Funeral Notice : 42 Kilgour > St; widow of Michael; native of Invernesshire; colonist 47 years; Sydney & > W.A.; papers to copy; funeral to Eastern Cemetery. > Above information from Geelong Cemeteries index. > > Does that fit? > > Regards ...... Susie Z >

Marie, A 2 1/2 yo of mine died 1853 but no cause of death on cert, and other 20yo in 1855 of 'colonial fever'. Carollyn Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Lockyer To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Infant deaths in 1853 In my research I have noticed a high number of infant deaths in the Geelong district in the year 1853. Does anyone know if there was an epidemic in that time? Marie L ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp

Hi Amanda, Thanks, I would greatly appreciate any input. These Atkins guys are proving to be a great source of frustration! But I'm determined to sort them out! Anyone else who can shed any light, please feel free to contact me. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda" <greenthumbs@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] "The Geelong Americans" > Hi Liz, > > I have a bit of information on Abram ATKINS who married Camilla D'ESTERRE > and their descendants. I'll send you the information I have directly. > > Amanda > > > I think Abram must have married twice. Firstly to a Camilla > > D'Esterre and then to Barbara Argentina. Perhaps Camilla died?? I'm trying > > to get to the bottom of it all! Thanks again. > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm >

Thanks for this offer Dianne Any TRASK or FARQUHARSON Regards Peter Dianne Towers wrote: > Dear listers, > If there is anyone with ancestors from the Birregurra district that may > have had baptisms, marriages and/or funerals at an Anglican church, I am > happy to do look ups of the records that I have transcribed. The information > from my database is available at the Birregurra Historical Society also... > with love and blessings > Dianne Towers > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm

In my research I have noticed a high number of infant deaths in the Geelong district in the year 1853. Does anyone know if there was an epidemic in that time? Marie L

Hello Susie, I live in Tasmania. We have a very good reference in Launceston but I think they only keep papers like The Age and such. Regards Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Look Up Please-Abbott > Hi Pat, > > Whereabouts do you live? The Geelong Advertiser is available at several > locations - including State Library of Victoria and National Library of > Australia - haven't checked other places but it might pay to check your > nearest State Library and University Library. In Geelong it's available at > the Geelong Heritage Centre and Deakin University, Waurn Ponds Campus. > > Regards ....... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Hume" <pathume@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:37 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Look Up Please-Abbott > > > > Hello List, > > Would it please be possible to get a death notice look up > from the Geelong Paper for a Ruby Alberta Abbott she was buried on 2/ 11/ > 1931.Hoping some kind person can oblige.If this is not possible a look up of > the E/Roll for that year,her last address was 132 Noble Street Newtown would > help. This may find her family if any. Thank you. > > Regards Pat > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Churches : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdchur.htm > >

Hi Liz, I have a bit of information on Abram ATKINS who married Camilla D'ESTERRE and their descendants. I'll send you the information I have directly. Amanda > I think Abram must have married twice. Firstly to a Camilla > D'Esterre and then to Barbara Argentina. Perhaps Camilla died?? I'm trying > to get to the bottom of it all! Thanks again.

Hi Pat, Whereabouts do you live? The Geelong Advertiser is available at several locations - including State Library of Victoria and National Library of Australia - haven't checked other places but it might pay to check your nearest State Library and University Library. In Geelong it's available at the Geelong Heritage Centre and Deakin University, Waurn Ponds Campus. Regards ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hume" <pathume@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:37 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Look Up Please-Abbott > Hello List, > Would it please be possible to get a death notice look up from the Geelong Paper for a Ruby Alberta Abbott she was buried on 2/ 11/ 1931.Hoping some kind person can oblige.If this is not possible a look up of the E/Roll for that year,her last address was 132 Noble Street Newtown would help. This may find her family if any. Thank you. > Regards Pat > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Mailing List Information : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdmail.htm > >

G'day from York.U.K. Hello Geelong Listers! I've recently discovered ancestral links with Geelong & District,& wondered if anyone would be kind enough to put some flesh on the skeletons! Details as follows: LAURENCE HENRY PENROSE b HULL,YORKSHIRE 1818.d GEELONG 1908. Back here in the "Old Country",he was a Bookbinder/printer,with a business in Hull,East Yorkshire. His Wife: MARIA PENROSE (NEE PICKERING)b HULL 1819.d GEELONG 1875. There were 2 (that I know of ! ) surviving children: BLANCHE b HULL 1850.d CHELTENHAM,VICT' 1926.(Unmarried?) CAROLINE b HULL 1851.d GEELONG 1897.(Unmarried?) There are several other baptisms & burials of other children recorded after they arrived in Oz' but as far as I know,none of them survived. If there are any kind listers who could add to my limited knowledge of their life "Down Under" I would be most obliged. Very best wishes from a cold,but sunny Spring-like Yorkshire. Thank you. Ken Pickering.

Hello List, Would it please be possible to get a death notice look up from the Geelong Paper for a Ruby Alberta Abbott she was buried on 2/ 11/ 1931.Hoping some kind person can oblige.If this is not possible a look up of the E/Roll for that year,her last address was 132 Noble Street Newtown would help. This may find her family if any. Thank you. Regards Pat

Sorry Liz, The "children of this couple" referred to the children of Frederick BADDELEY and Camilla ATKINS, not Abram and Barbara. Perhaps if you send a Research Request to the Geelong Family History Group they may have more information .......... http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/research.htm Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Denten" <lizbethd@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] "The Geelong Americans" > Hi Susie, > Thanks muchly! Would you mind giving me the children of Abram and Barbara > that are listed. There should be a child, Abram, who according to my records > was born somewhere around 1835 also. There is something weird going on in > this family. I think Abram must have married twice. Firstly to a Camilla > D'Esterre and then to Barbara Argentina. Perhaps Camilla died?? I'm trying > to get to the bottom of it all! Thanks again. >

Hi Susie, Thanks muchly! Would you mind giving me the children of Abram and Barbara that are listed. There should be a child, Abram, who according to my records was born somewhere around 1835 also. There is something weird going on in this family. I think Abram must have married twice. Firstly to a Camilla D'Esterre and then to Barbara Argentina. Perhaps Camilla died?? I'm trying to get to the bottom of it all! Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] "The Geelong Americans" > Hi Liz, > > Camilla ATKINS is listed as the wife of Frederick Clinton Herman Stuart > BADDELEY (boy is that a mouthful!). Lists his details plus ..... > Camilla, b. c. 1835 FLorence Italy, d. 3.11.1897 Welington NZ, married > 3.9.1856, father Abram ATKINS, mother Argentina BARBARA also lists children > of this couple. > > This book is still available from the Geelong Family History Group according > to their publications web site at ..... > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/publicat.htm > > Regards ........ Susie Z > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Denten" <lizbethd@optushome.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:26 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] "The Geelong Americans" > > > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have access to the book "The Geelong Americans"? There is a > Camilla Atkins mentioned on page 4. > > I live in NSW and none of the libraries here have it- not even the State > Library. If anyone can help with what it says about her, I'd really > appreciate it. Thanks. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Towns and Regions : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtown.htm >

Hi Liz, Camilla ATKINS is listed as the wife of Frederick Clinton Herman Stuart BADDELEY (boy is that a mouthful!). Lists his details plus ..... Camilla, b. c. 1835 FLorence Italy, d. 3.11.1897 Welington NZ, married 3.9.1856, father Abram ATKINS, mother Argentina BARBARA also lists children of this couple. This book is still available from the Geelong Family History Group according to their publications web site at ..... http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/publicat.htm Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Denten" <lizbethd@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: [GEELONG] "The Geelong Americans" > Hi all, > Does anyone have access to the book "The Geelong Americans"? There is a Camilla Atkins mentioned on page 4. > I live in NSW and none of the libraries here have it- not even the State Library. If anyone can help with what it says about her, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.