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Hello everyone, Thank-you one and all for your input on this conundrum. Every bit of research and suggestion is appreciated. If anyone ever comes across a directory for the late 1850s or early 1860s that lists Malop St East I'd love to know if the Quadrille Office evolved into something more recognisable! With thanks, Jenny Coates Harkaway, Vic

Dear Ann, Do you descend from the Templestowe, Mundy family? My late brother-in-law Allan Box who grew up in Lilydale descended from this family. His Mundy is spelt without an 'a', being just Mundy, so maybe it is a different family. His mother was Mavis Poyner. His great grandmother was Elizabeth Ada Mundy born at Heidelberg in 1865. She married Joseph Moore Poyner in 1887. They settled in Lilydale. Kind regards. Berta Maggs

Hi Listers I'm trying to find my Grandfather's & Grandmothers schools does anyone out there have a list of schools and names from 1885 to 1905 are there also student names for these schools / they lived in john place & later in little mallop street if there is any school info available would sks pleeeese contact me/ I would be very grateful for any reply to my query Cheers Deirdre deirdremc@bigpond.com

Thanks Susie - am trying to get live descendants if possible at this stage. I am researching the hotel for teh Geelong Heritage centre Open day on Sunday as the present owners have renovated the building and have brought in some artifacts that they discovered while doing so. The building has quite a history, including a ghost and a supposed murder victim, so in time it would be good to piece it all togther! Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <szada@zades.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Haymarket Hotel > Hi Pam, > > There are likely SOMMERS entries on our book index and a few possibles for > some of the other names if that's any help. > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > > Regards .......... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam & Trevor Jennings" <tjennings@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:36 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Haymarket Hotel > > > > I am seeking any desc. of publicans that ran this hotel: John SEMKIN, > William SOMMERS, Samuel TREND, Joseph TUITE, William BRADY and William > HONEY. > > I know Honey's lived in the Barrabool Hills but am wondering if they are > the same family? regards, Pam Jennings > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

Hi Pam, There are likely SOMMERS entries on our book index and a few possibles for some of the other names if that's any help. http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp Regards .......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam & Trevor Jennings" <tjennings@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Haymarket Hotel > I am seeking any desc. of publicans that ran this hotel: John SEMKIN, William SOMMERS, Samuel TREND, Joseph TUITE, William BRADY and William HONEY. > I know Honey's lived in the Barrabool Hills but am wondering if they are the same family? regards, Pam Jennings > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Research Centres & Museums : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdresc.htm > >

As a music teacher, I have been familiar with QUADRILLE as an old dance form, but in checking my Webster's dictionary (9th Collegiate--old as sin!) I find that it is also: n.1. group of knights engaged in a counsel... 2.four-handed variant of ombre popular esp in the 18th C. 3.a square dance for four couples made up of five or six figures chiefly in 6/8 and 2/4 time: music for this dance. adj. ....(ca.1885)....marked with squares and rectangles. So much for my input. Bless you all helping each other in this genealogical quest! Marylyn D. Adams Ocala, FL USA

G'day Thanks to Jennifer, Bob & Liz for your replies. They were most helpful. The period that the studio was in operation fits nicely in with the information that I have. My gggranny was born in 1833 and the person in the photo appears to be 30-40ish so that is in the range of 1865 -1886. I will check the books suggested and see if I can get the date a little closer. When she first came here in 1853 her occupation was that of a dressmaker, so I would guess that if it was her, she would have the latest fashion! Thanks again for all your interest. Regards Ian Donaldson > > I have just recently acquired a copy of a photo of a woman that I would like to call my g.g.grandmother! > > However (as usual) there is nothing on the picture to indicate just who is in the photo, but it has on it Wilmot & Key, Geelong Portrait Gallery, 31 Malop Street Geelong. > > The woman depicted is wearing what I would call a "bustle" style dress, with a rather ornate hat or perhaps a bonnet. > > Could anyone give me some ideas as to when that studio was in business, and what time period would a 'bustle" dress be worn. > I'm sorry about the description, but ladies fashion is not my strong point! I could forward on a copy of the picture I anyone thought that it would help give me some clues. >

Horse scents do you think Di ?[sorry 'bout that] bfn John Diane Christensen wrote: >Did you receive the response to both of us re the perfume.???? >Di > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District Cemeteries : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm > >. > > > -- John Whitehand Melbourne 61 3 93145306 "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery http://www.westegg.com/exupery/

Did you receive the response to both of us re the perfume.???? Di

I am seeking any desc. of publicans that ran this hotel: John SEMKIN, William SOMMERS, Samuel TREND, Joseph TUITE, William BRADY and William HONEY. I know Honey's lived in the Barrabool Hills but am wondering if they are the same family? regards, Pam Jennings

Quadrille also has equestrian connotations "Class 24 QUADRILLE COMPETITION TO MUSIC Entry Fee per team: $ 88 GST inclusive Refundable Bond: $55 Prizes to the value: 1st $200 2nd $160 3rd $100 4th $80 5th & 6th Rosettes Special prize for the best costume CONDITIONS OF ENTRY Designed to present attractive & entertaining spectacle for the audience in the Indoor Arena on Sunday 24th March Teams of 4 riders entered by groups of HRCAV, PCAV or EFA members Open to horses or ponies aged 5 years or older (foaled before 31/7/97) Work may be shown to a maximum of EFA medium level. The test should take minimum 4 ½ minutes with a maximum of 5 mins. The quadrille scored on Choreography, Music and technical execution. Marked out of 100 for each section Gear - Snaffle or double bridle, whips and spurs maybe used. Costume is optional. Teams maybe in costume or regulation (PCAV, HRCAV or EFA) attire. Bandages and other decoration of horses are allowed. Appropriate headgear and boots must be worn, however hats can be decorated. If excessive entries, entries will be taken on a first in basis Judges - 3, one to be from outside the normal panel EFA dressage rules will apply to situations not covered above. Test to start and finish with a compulsory salute. Riders to leave arena at walk Mounted presentation Arena familiarisation between 7 and 8 am on Sunday 24th March for quadrille riders. Music must be handed to Secretary by 9.00 am on Sunday 24th March. Two copies of either the tape or CD" As horsemanship may have been appropriate for the time- Perhaps ! bfn John Dianne Hughes wrote: >I've only heard of it as a card game, when I looked it up its a 18th game for four persons with forty cards. Perhaps they had a special office in Geelong in the early days for people to register. The possibilities are endless and mind boggling. >Dianne Hughes > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >. > > > -- John Whitehand Melbourne 61 3 93145306 "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery http://www.westegg.com/exupery/

I've only heard of it as a card game, when I looked it up its a 18th game for four persons with forty cards. Perhaps they had a special office in Geelong in the early days for people to register. The possibilities are endless and mind boggling. Dianne Hughes

Hi Jenny & Di, Quadrille - also a wonderful, but expensive perfume by Balenciaga, I'd love to be able to afford even a small bottle, and for that matter even find a stockist! Beautiful stuf! Steph.

Researching James Furnell born 1822(????????????) married Kate Harding Bone(?) 1859 in Victoria children Charles Kate Alfred Fred Ernest Charles William Emily born in Geelong bet 1860 and 1875 Elizabeth

Hi Ian, Sorry, I can't help much with the photo other than to recommend a book "Dating Family Photos 1850-1920" by Lenore Frost. I don't have it myself, but my sister does and says it's quite helpful. BTW, I have some Donaldson's in my tree. They originate in Tasmania- John Henry Donaldson b. abt. 1821 Scotland and Mary Beach. They had 13 children. Is this familiar ? Cheers, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "IAN DONALDSON" <allsure@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Dating of photos. > G'day > > > I have just recently acquired a copy of a photo of a woman that I would like to call my g.g.grandmother! > > However (as usual) there is nothing on the picture to indicate just who is in the photo, but it has on it Wilmot & Key, Geelong Portrait Gallery, 31 Malop Street Geelong. > > The woman depicted is wearing what I would call a "bustle" style dress, with a rather ornate hat or perhaps a bonnet. > > Could anyone give me some ideas as to when that studio was in business, and what time period would a 'bustle" dress be worn. > I'm sorry about the description, but ladies fashion is not my strong point! I could forward on a copy of the picture I anyone thought that it would help give me some clues. > > Thanks in advance. > > Rgards > > Ian Donaldson > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp > http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp >

G'day Ian From "Australians Behind The Camera" by Sandie Barry [a must for any researcher] Wilmot and Key, Geelong Portrait Gallery, 31 Malop Street, Geelong, Vic. 1865-86 Cheers.....Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: IAN DONALDSON To: AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Dating of photos.

To date the dress, you could have a look at Marion FLETCHER's brilliant book 'History of Costume'. Should be in most libraries. Jennifer >G'day > >The woman depicted is wearing what I would call a "bustle" style >dress, with a rather ornate hat or perhaps a bonnet. > >Could anyone give me some ideas as to when that studio was in >business, and what time period would a 'bustle" dress be worn. > >Rgards > >Ian Donaldson > --

G'day I have just recently acquired a copy of a photo of a woman that I would like to call my g.g.grandmother! However (as usual) there is nothing on the picture to indicate just who is in the photo, but it has on it Wilmot & Key, Geelong Portrait Gallery, 31 Malop Street Geelong. The woman depicted is wearing what I would call a "bustle" style dress, with a rather ornate hat or perhaps a bonnet. Could anyone give me some ideas as to when that studio was in business, and what time period would a 'bustle" dress be worn. I'm sorry about the description, but ladies fashion is not my strong point! I could forward on a copy of the picture I anyone thought that it would help give me some clues. Thanks in advance. Rgards Ian Donaldson

Hi Di, I knew you'd know what I mean by "googled"! Other suggestions about the quadrille office relate to the dance (I tend to think this couldn't have supported a career!), and something to do with horses? -- Jenny Coates (Boyer) Harkaway, Victoria