Hi to all, anyone have any info. re James Pretty who was a storekeeper in Portarlington from about 1907 to 1917, approx. Also his only son (my father) James Alfred Burton PRETTY who obviously would have gone to school in that timefrom age of about 6, and who also played football in Geelong area. Thanks Ruth MacLeod (nee Pretty).

Hi, I have just joined your subscriber list, and I would like to find some information on my 3rd & 4th Great Grandfathers, on how/why/when they came out to Australia from Ireland. Details as below: John Meehan B.1830 M.1856 D.1905 M. Johanna (Murphy) B.1834 D.1912 married Cappamore, Limerick, Ireland and lived in Geelong, both are buried at Eastern Cemetary (Roman Catholic section), Geelong, came over to Australia 1858+?, had 5 boys, all born in Geelong, his parents also came out to Australia, date unknown. Terence Meehan B.? M.1815 D.? M. Bridget (Doughey/Doherty) B.1793 D.1867 both are presumed to be buried also in the same grave as John & Johanna above. Any help would be appreciated, Kind regards, Sharon.

G'day Pam, I guess the moral can be found in either... If you can't find it, look for something else..! If you can't find it Look somewhere else...! or If you can't find it, look for someone else ! thanks for that... bfn John Pam & Trevor Jennings wrote: >The things you find when you are not looking for them! >Geelong Advertiser: 26.2.1869 >A quadrille party is to be held at St Patrick's State School, Kildare [part of Geelong]. A first rate band has been engaged. The names of the gentlemen who have consented to act as stewards form a sufficient guarantee that everything will be conducted in the most approved manner. >(Gentlemen were: Martin RYAN, Warren G BROWN, P McKEEVER, P.McMAHON, John MARSFIELD) >(Musicians were: WALKER, GOODALL, ASHMORE) >And a report the following day stated that 'dancing was well kept up during the night'. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >Geelong & District and Bellarine Indexes : >http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp >http://www.zades.com.au/bellhs/bpnmsrc1.asp > >. > > > -- John Whitehand Melbourne 61 3 93145306 "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery http://www.westegg.com/exupery/

The things you find when you are not looking for them! Geelong Advertiser: 26.2.1869 A quadrille party is to be held at St Patrick's State School, Kildare [part of Geelong]. A first rate band has been engaged. The names of the gentlemen who have consented to act as stewards form a sufficient guarantee that everything will be conducted in the most approved manner. (Gentlemen were: Martin RYAN, Warren G BROWN, P McKEEVER, P.McMAHON, John MARSFIELD) (Musicians were: WALKER, GOODALL, ASHMORE) And a report the following day stated that 'dancing was well kept up during the night'.

Thanks Selena I hadn't thought of the obvious !..Of course it was possible that there were other passengers on board! The Anne on board was RC & I think my lady was Presbyterian as was the Thomas who was aboard. (Jane's father's name was also Thomas so he may have been a brother) I'll see what I can find out about passenger numbers! (maybe a newspaper report?) Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Selena" <sea123@hermes.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Anne or Jane Murray? > Hello list, > > I checked the original passenger list today for the "Regulus" at State > Records of NSW Kingswood. [SRNSW ref: 4/4814 Reel 2144]. There is a > Thomas Murray who immigrated as a single male and an Anne Murray who > immigrated as a single female. There was no other assisted passengers by > the name of Murray on that voyage. I wonder if there were also un-assisted > (full paying) passengers > on board as was frequently the case. The above Register only lists assisted > immigrants. > > Regards > > Selena >

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Hello list, I checked the original passenger list today for the "Regulus" at State Records of NSW Kingswood. [SRNSW ref: 4/4814 Reel 2144]. There is a Thomas Murray who immigrated as a single male and an Anne Murray who immigrated as a single female. There was no other assisted passengers by the name of Murray on that voyage. I wonder if there were also un-assisted (full paying) passengers on board as was frequently the case. The above Register only lists assisted immigrants. Regards Selena

Thank you so much for all the replies. I believe this is my Mary, so I have ordered the certificate concerned. A very big thanks for all the help I have received recently tracing my family lines. Also my eyes have been opened to other great sources of information. Without all this help it would have taken me much longer and cost a lot more to get as far as I have. Justin Heath McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Lowry" <marlow@melbpc.org.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus > Justin > From the Eastern Cemetery Geelong, Funeral Service Register > as follows > Mary Mc Donald 5 December 1876, aged 78 died Sutherlands Creek, Widow > of Angus G.A. > Hope this is your Mary. > Margaret Lowry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin McDonald" <justin@shinethrough.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:21 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus > > > > This could be a needle in a haystack query. I have just received the > death > > Certificate of one Angus McDonald. He died in 1872 at age 85 in > > Sutherland's Creek and was buried in Geelong Cemetery. Now I am > trying to > > find his wife Mary. > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > > Geelong Family History Group : > > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > > > > > > > ______________________________

Um - I think you're forgetting the obvious - the Geelong Advertiser! Regards ...... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "tjk2001" <tjk2001@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Frazier deaths 1983 Geelong > I think the Melbourne Herald-Sun would be a better bet > > Terry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clare Stapleton Concord" <conjola2137@charter.net> > To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:15 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Frazier deaths 1983 Geelong > > > > I have a husband and wife who died in 1983. Both were registered at > Geelong. > > Any ideas as to where they would have been buried? I know that Mona > Frazier > > died May 5, 1983. Could I assume that The Age would be the paper to look > in > > for a death notice? > >

I think the Melbourne Herald-Sun would be a better bet Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Stapleton Concord" <conjola2137@charter.net> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Frazier deaths 1983 Geelong > I have a husband and wife who died in 1983. Both were registered at Geelong. > Any ideas as to where they would have been buried? I know that Mona Frazier > died May 5, 1983. Could I assume that The Age would be the paper to look in > for a death notice? > > Thanks for suggestions. > > Clare > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong & District Surnames of Interest : > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdname.htm >

Thanks I have both papers on my list for the State Library

Geelong Advertiser: 17.12.1861 Divorce Court proceedings: Leonara Lucinda & John Brandreth CASEY married st St Pauls Geelong 26.10.1855

i would try for the death certificate saying her husband must be Angus. and giving a rough estimate of the years. i know they do a blanket search for extra money if you have no idea of the time frame. robyn, toowoomba. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin McDonald" <justin@shinethrough.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus > This could be a needle in a haystack query. I have just received the death > Certificate of one Angus McDonald. He died in 1872 at age 85 in > Sutherland's Creek and was buried in Geelong Cemetery. Now I am trying to > find his wife Mary. Looking at the vic death indexes, there are heaps of > mary's so I don't know which one could be her as I'm not even sure of her > birth year so can't go by age at death. I've been led to believe she was > born between 1798 and 1805, depending on the source. > > I'm hoping someone who has access to records for Geelong Cemetery or local > papers (perhaps Geelong Advertiser) can look for the death of Mary McDonald, > wife of Angus. Susie, you were a great help last time for my other Mary > McDonald (wife of Michael) and i'm hoping there is something similar for > this Mary (my other 3rd Great Grandmother, yes I have two 3rd Great > Grandmother's with the same name). > > All help greatly appreciated. > > Justin Heath McDonald > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm >

Justin From the Eastern Cemetery Geelong, Funeral Service Register as follows Mary Mc Donald 5 December 1876, aged 78 died Sutherlands Creek, Widow of Angus G.A. Hope this is your Mary. Margaret Lowry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin McDonald" <justin@shinethrough.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus > This could be a needle in a haystack query. I have just received the death > Certificate of one Angus McDonald. He died in 1872 at age 85 in > Sutherland's Creek and was buried in Geelong Cemetery. Now I am trying to > find his wife Mary. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > > >

Thanks Ada for the insight into the records, as well as your efforts. it helps a lot to understand the ways things were done, when searching I find. I guess we always have to remember so many new arrivals did not read & write and I feel sorry for the transcribers taking down the names as people from all over the world with unusual names and especially as they tried to tell them their names with a thick scotch accent or cornish or yorkshire etc, it must have been very difficult and I guess as long as they were allowed ashore would immigrants have worried if the spelling was a little off, no white out in those days. Yes I have transcribed records for sites too and battled with some of the copies being so dark as to be almost unreadable to say nothing of the handwriting which can vary so greatly, or fade or bleed through the paper, so a few mistakes can easily be understood even by the most careful transcribers. I am just glad these records are still available and that people have taken the time to transcribe things like the immigration records and geelong indexes etc for us all. I also believe that not all ships either kept records or handed them on, is that correct do you know? Linda

To Ada and all other transcribers, we can only thankyou for the work you put into our rellies. Without you we would never find them. Yes some where they shouldn't be, but on a whole most where they should. You are extra eyes and knowledge for us all. Fran :-) One of the many amateur genealogists, with alot more twigs for my trees, thanks to you guys.

I have a husband and wife who died in 1983. Both were registered at Geelong. Any ideas as to where they would have been buried? I know that Mona Frazier died May 5, 1983. Could I assume that The Age would be the paper to look in for a death notice? Thanks for suggestions. Clare

Hi Justin, You should contact the Geelong Cemeteries Trust to see if they have Mary in the same plot / group of plots - this would probably be the quickest and easiest method. Details at ........... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcem.htm Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin McDonald" <justin@shinethrough.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus > This could be a needle in a haystack query. I have just received the death > Certificate of one Angus McDonald. He died in 1872 at age 85 in > Sutherland's Creek and was buried in Geelong Cemetery. Now I am trying to > find his wife Mary. Looking at the vic death indexes, there are heaps of > mary's so I don't know which one could be her as I'm not even sure of her > birth year so can't go by age at death. I've been led to believe she was > born between 1798 and 1805, depending on the source. > > I'm hoping someone who has access to records for Geelong Cemetery or local > papers (perhaps Geelong Advertiser) can look for the death of Mary McDonald, > wife of Angus. Susie, you were a great help last time for my other Mary > McDonald (wife of Michael) and i'm hoping there is something similar for > this Mary (my other 3rd Great Grandmother, yes I have two 3rd Great > Grandmother's with the same name). > > All help greatly appreciated. > > Justin Heath McDonald > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GEELONG-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Geelong Family History Group : > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/index.htm > >

This could be a needle in a haystack query. I have just received the death Certificate of one Angus McDonald. He died in 1872 at age 85 in Sutherland's Creek and was buried in Geelong Cemetery. Now I am trying to find his wife Mary. Looking at the vic death indexes, there are heaps of mary's so I don't know which one could be her as I'm not even sure of her birth year so can't go by age at death. I've been led to believe she was born between 1798 and 1805, depending on the source. I'm hoping someone who has access to records for Geelong Cemetery or local papers (perhaps Geelong Advertiser) can look for the death of Mary McDonald, wife of Angus. Susie, you were a great help last time for my other Mary McDonald (wife of Michael) and i'm hoping there is something similar for this Mary (my other 3rd Great Grandmother, yes I have two 3rd Great Grandmother's with the same name). All help greatly appreciated. Justin Heath McDonald

Hello Dianne, I had an email come back to me which I had sent to you, I think it is what Susie was referring to. I was thanking you for looking up for Kinnears, many thanks, much appreciated. Take care Eve.