I bow to your detailed knowledge, Susie. Thanks. Allan Jamieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Geelong Street in 1854 > Hello Allan, > > Not Forster but Foster - Little Foster Street was in South Geelong - now > Balliang Street. > > Regards ........... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:38 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Street in 1854 > > > > > > In the 1854 Geelong Rates Book, there was a "Little Forster Street." > > > > > > > > Does anyone know where Little Forster St. was? Today, the Melways shows > > only a Forster Street in Norlane. > > > > > > > > Allan Jamieson > > > > Burnie, Tasmania > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > > http://www.zades.com.au > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Allan, The rate books were compiled as part of the valuation books - the valuer noted all places first and then rates were applied. This exercise could take a few months at least and there is no way of confirming when during the financial year that a property was assessed. At the beginning of the relevant rate book there is often a declaration by the valuer that he will perform the task etc. etc. and dated - this is just when he agrees to abide by the guidelines of the council and is generally early in the financial year. You also need to check if the "1853" rate books are for the financial year 1852/53 or 1853/54 - again, checking the beginning of the rate book may indicate this. Rates are always paid by the Owner. The occupier of course can also be the owner, otherwise they are renting / leasing the property, but the owner is rateable. I think you may have made a visit to Geelong recently and now back in Tassie so I realise it's not easy for you to check the beginning of the rate books. Regards .............. Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Rate Books for 1850's - Two questions I have found an interesting record in the Geelong Rate Book for year 1853. Can anyone tell me the likely MONTH when the Rate Book entry was made? I ask because I presume that the entry indicates that the person concerned was at that address in that month – but may well have moved somewhere else after that month. Also, can anyone tell me if the Rates in year 1853 were to be paid by the occupier or by the owner of the premises? Allan Jamieson Burnie, Tasmania

Hello Allan, Not Forster but Foster - Little Foster Street was in South Geelong - now Balliang Street. Regards ........... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Street in 1854 > > In the 1854 Geelong Rates Book, there was a "Little Forster Street." > > > > Does anyone know where Little Forster St. was? Today, the Melways shows > only a Forster Street in Norlane. > > > > Allan Jamieson > > Burnie, Tasmania > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Foster St in South Geelong and some smaller street/ lanes around it which are named but do not show on the Melways - it may be one of those and as I practically drive along that street daily to work I can check it out for you Carollyn Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong Street in 1854 > > In the 1854 Geelong Rates Book, there was a "Little Forster Street." > > > > Does anyone know where Little Forster St. was? Today, the Melways shows > only a Forster Street in Norlane. > > > > Allan Jamieson > > Burnie, Tasmania > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the 1854 Geelong Rates Book, there was a "Little Forster Street." Does anyone know where Little Forster St. was? Today, the Melways shows only a Forster Street in Norlane. Allan Jamieson Burnie, Tasmania

I have found an interesting record in the Geelong Rate Book for year 1853. Can anyone tell me the likely MONTH when the Rate Book entry was made? I ask because I presume that the entry indicates that the person concerned was at that address in that month – but may well have moved somewhere else after that month. Also, can anyone tell me if the Rates in year 1853 were to be paid by the occupier or by the owner of the premises? Allan Jamieson Burnie, Tasmania

I wish to continue to be on the Mailing List but under a new email address. The reason being is I am continually getting bogged down with Spam. My new address is [email protected] I hope this can be arranged. Thank you, Margaret

Suggest that you contact Paul Kenny who is the historian for the Bellarine Peninsula Railway He has written a history of the railway. He lives at St Leonard's John Bugg ----- Original Message ----- From: "jamie solo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong - Queenscliff railway > Has anyone seen or know of pictures of the Marcus or Mannerim stations on > the Geelong to Queenscliff line?. > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carollyn Many thanks for your interest and help. I will have a look at the sites and contact the Mortlake Society. Cheers and thanks again. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carollyn Williams" <[email protected]> > Joan, > In the history of the Mortlake Shire 'Pastures of Peace" is a picture of A > Stewart's store in 1910. The book has no index so cannot lok up any other > Stewart references easily. There is a geneology/historical society in > Mortlake http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/mdhs/web/index.html who I have found > helpful and a cemetery index > http://www.ansonic.com.au/marrtronics/MORTLAK.HTM where there are about 15 > Stewarts listed > > Carollyn Williams > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <[email protected]> > > > > > Just reposting my new interests in Geelong. > > > > William & Helen Stewart nee Grant arrived in Geelong in 1853 on the ship > > "Childe Harold", with their 2 daughters Mary age 2 & Frances an infant. > > They were from Alvah, Banff, Scotland. a further 2 boys, William & > > James > > were born about 1855 and 1857 in Geelong. > > > > On William's death in 1869 in Mortlake, he is shown as a farmer. I > > believe Mary married a George Wilson in 1876 and Frances married William > > Sadler in 1883. > > > > Would anyone be researching or have interests in any of the above. > > > > Thank you for your interest. > > Joan in NSW. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > > http://www.zades.com.au > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Has anyone seen or know of pictures of the Marcus or Mannerim stations on the Geelong to Queenscliff line?. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Joan, In the history of the Mortlake Shire 'Pastures of Peace" is a picture of A Stewart's store in 1910. The book has no index so cannot lok up any other Stewart references easily. There is a geneology/historical society in Mortlake http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/mdhs/web/index.html who I have found helpful and a cemetery index http://www.ansonic.com.au/marrtronics/MORTLAK.HTM where there are about 15 Stewarts listed Carollyn Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: [GEELONG] STEWART, WILSON, SADLER in Geelong > Just reposting my new interests in Geelong. > > William & Helen Stewart nee Grant arrived in Geelong in 1853 on the ship > "Childe Harold", with their 2 daughters Mary age 2 & Frances an infant. > They were from Alvah, Banff, Scotland. a further 2 boys, William & > James > were born about 1855 and 1857 in Geelong. > > On William's death in 1869 in Mortlake, he is shown as a farmer. I > believe Mary married a George Wilson in 1876 and Frances married William > Sadler in 1883. > > Would anyone be researching or have interests in any of the above. > > Thank you for your interest. > Joan in NSW. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to all the people who responded to my query. I have been able to add some more details to that line and confirm some of my 'assumptions' Plenty of new info to research!! Many thanks to all Trish Hall

Hello Trish, I am descended from Daniel Family. Can you give me some details of your connection and I may be able to help out. Cheers, Bill Willett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish & Russ Hall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Re THOMSON FAMILY1857 > Thought I would try my *Thomson* connections as I have not had much luck > with my *Daniel f*amily

Hello Trish Here is a marriage in 1886, although quite a few years after Alice's death, for a William Edward Thomson. Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : thomson (2430 matches) Given Names : william edward (2330 matches) Event : m (399995 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: THOMSON Given Names: William Edward Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: MCCONVILLE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Age: Sex: M Birth Place: LONDON Death Place: Year: 1886 Reg Number: 4654 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: There is also a William Edward Thom"p"son as follows: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : thompson (5112 matches) Given Names : william edward (2330 matches) Event : m (399995 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: THOMPSON Given Names: William Edward Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: GOODENOUGH Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann Age: Sex: M Birth Place: DRYSDALE Death Place: Year: 1886 Reg Number: 1956 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Hope these are of some help. Joan in NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish & Russ Hall" <[email protected]> > Thought I would try my *Thomson* connections as I have not had much luck > with my *Daniel f*amily (Giles arrived 1849 "Andromache "and Jemima > Wilkins arrived 1852 on Victory) > The family arrived on the "Chancellor" leaving Liverpool 22 Oct 1857. > They were listed as passengers so probably paid their own way. * > Hannah Thompson** 69 widow, Edward Thompson 33 grocer Alice his wife > 30,William infant George 29 grocer,Harriet 29* his wife. > I am descended from Edward and Alice (William Edward Thomson - no P -my > g grandfather). Unfortunately Alice died a couple of years after arrival > as did 2 babies. How can I find out if Edward remarried and where they > were living. Not sure how long they stayed in the Geelong area, Alice > was buried in Newtown Geelong. Are there any sites online to check or > suggestions on where to look as I live interstate. > I imagine that George may have had a family & descendants. I have some > information on Alice's line from Norfolk. > Regards Trish > >

Thought I would try my *Thomson* connections as I have not had much luck with my *Daniel f*amily (Giles arrived 1849 "Andromache "and Jemima Wilkins arrived 1852 on Victory) The family arrived on the "Chancellor" leaving Liverpool 22 Oct 1857. They were listed as passengers so probably paid their own way. * Hannah Thompson** 69 widow, Edward Thompson 33 grocer Alice his wife 30,William infant George 29 grocer,Harriet 29* his wife. I am descended from Edward and Alice (William Edward Thomson - no P -my g grandfather). Unfortunately Alice died a couple of years after arrival as did 2 babies. How can I find out if Edward remarried and where they were living. Not sure how long they stayed in the Geelong area, Alice was buried in Newtown Geelong. Are there any sites online to check or suggestions on where to look as I live interstate. I imagine that George may have had a family & descendants. I have some information on Alice's line from Norfolk. Regards Trish

Just reposting my new interests in Geelong. William & Helen Stewart nee Grant arrived in Geelong in 1853 on the ship "Childe Harold", with their 2 daughters Mary age 2 & Frances an infant. They were from Alvah, Banff, Scotland. a further 2 boys, William & James were born about 1855 and 1857 in Geelong. On William's death in 1869 in Mortlake, he is shown as a farmer. I believe Mary married a George Wilson in 1876 and Frances married William Sadler in 1883. Would anyone be researching or have interests in any of the above. Thank you for your interest. Joan in NSW.

Hi Folks, I was recently sent a lovely photo of students at Ocean Grove School in 1953 - guessing that it is Grade 1. Can you help identify the students in the photo? http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdhelp.htm A list of possible students at OG School in 1953 based on age is included to help with identification. Regards .......... Susie Z

Hello to Eril Willmott, It's Janette here...could you please let me know who the parents of Cedric Harrison who married 1923 in Geelong are as I've got lots of Geelong Harrison's on file. Regards, Janette Pfeifer

Hi Faye, where does your Henry Sealy originate from? thanks dorothy ~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of F. Sheridan Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2007 5:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEELONG] names I am researching SEALEY WILMOT MUNDY Hi list members It has been some time since I posted anything to the list. Just thought I would mention again names I am researching from GEELONG families of George & Elizabeth Wilmot John Mundy & Georgiana Wilmot Henry Sealy & Georgiana Mundy regards Faye ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jan, Thanks for your message re. Irwins, however neither of these people fit into my research. However, I see you have Harrison among your lines - Elsie Reeve Irwin who was born in Adelaide but lived with Irwin grandparents in Geelong married Cedric Harrison in Geelong in 1923. Don't suppose there is any connection there? Incidentally I can't believe that after looking for Irwins for years I am typing two emails about them in the same posting! Eril Willmott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janette Pfeifer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Re IRWIN researchers. > Hello everyone, > It's Janette (Jan) Pfeifer here born Geelong. > Re the IRWIN surname. > In my connected files I've got the following:--- > ** Norton Charles IRWIN who married 1906 in Victoria to Phillipson > (Fillison) May LYONS born 1882 in Bellarine, Victoria. > ** John IRWIN & Ethel RICHARDS had an Ida Irene born 18.1.1907 Harlem, > Bastard Township, Ontario, Canada who married 5.10.1929 Harlem, Ontario to > a James Clifford CHANT born 1909. I have desc.of their 3 children. This > Chant line is connected to my own CHANT line way back in 1700's in > Somerset, England. > ** I've also got 2 other living Irwins who married in Sydney & Canada. > I thought the above just might be connected to the Balliang Street & > other IRWINs. > > Regards, > Janette Pfeifer (nee Grundy)....Researching CHANT, HARRISON, MANSFIELD, > LYONS, TOMKINS etc.Geelong area. > > >