Some additional information: Kind regards, Pam Jennings Eden, John alias Coleman, arr on Maitland in 1846 DIED 10.10.1894 AGED 74 (headstone Eastern Cem - with wife Adelaide) Perrin, Richard, arr PP on Joseph Somes in 1847 DIED 11.10.1886 AGED 70 RES: OFF MELB RD. NORTH GEELONG DEATH CERT: H.O.JANE (HUTCHINSON); BRN: OXFORDSHIRE; 36 YRS IN VIC; S.O.WILLIAM & SARAH; > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, God bless the Geelong Book Index! I have answered my own question by finding a very explicit reference to Balding's map there - inside back cover of Gladys Seaton's "The Ashby Stpry". I presume this redrawing is part of the very old and battered original which I once saw at the Geelong Historical Records Centre, even though it doesn't go as far south as Balding's own house. Thank you, Indexers! Marion

Can SKS please tell me the year in which Robert Balding, Geelong Town Surveyor, drew a map of the town? I want to give it as a reference, but see that my system has broken down somewhere and I haven't noted the date. This could save hours of fruitless searching, because I don't have a copy of the map on hand, so I'll be EXTREMELY grateful! Many thanks Marion

Hi Grahame, Here are my two from Oxfordshire, father and son John & Reuben BUTLER who relieved a farmer of 1/6 worth of hay (perhaps for family bedding?). Reuben was the oldest surviving son of John BUTLER & Mary BALDWIN. The youngest was 1 yr old when they were transported - hope this helps, Rosalyn "Fich. No. D0050. Refernece No. to family C039662. Father. JOHN - Born Stoke Lyne, Oxfordshire, England to Mathias and Ann BUTLER in 1774. Sent out to NSW as a convict on the ship "Prince Regent", arrived Sydney 27th Sept 1827. Census 1828 - He was 54 yrs, worked for A.A.Co Port Stephens. Reuban 21.11.1802 (Actually date of his christening) - son - Sent out to NSW as a convict on the same ship as father. Census 1828. Age 21. Worked as ploughman for John Blaxland at Patrick's Plains, near Broke. Document from Port Stephen's Bench, NSW, Australia: No. 35/909 10 Oct 1835 Prisoner's No. - 27/2085 Name - John BUTLER Ship - Prince Regent Master - Richards Year - 1827 Native Place - Stokeline (Stoke Lyne) Oxfords. Trade or calling - Labourer Offence - Place of Trial - Oxford Assizes. Date of Trial - 6 March 1827 Sentence - Life Year of Birth - 1776 Height - 5 feet 8 1/4 inches Complexion - fresh Hair - Grey Eyes - Blue General Remarks - P.P.41/438 Allowed to remain in the District of Windsor on the recommendation of Port Stephen's Bench, Dated 31 May 1835 (Written across document - A.A.Co. Patrick's Plains Woodcutter ----- 4 April 18?? Settled (?) to Maitland ----------- 27 March 1827 Conditional Pardon No 34/321 Whereas, his late most excellent Majesty King George the Third by a Commission under the great seal of Great Britain, bearing date the eight day of November, in the thirtyfirst year of His Majesty's reign was graciously pleased to give and grant full power and authority to the Governor (or , in the case of his death or absence, the Leiutenant Governor) for the time being of His Majesty's Territory of the Eastern Coast of New South Wales, and the Islands there unto adjacent, by an instrument or instruments in writing, under the seal of the Government of the said territory, or as he or they respectively should think fit and convenient for his Majesty's Service, to remit, either absolutely or conditionally, the whole or any part of the term or time for which persons convicted of felony, misdemeanor or other offences, amendable to the laws of Great Britain, should have been, or should be thereafter be respectively conveyed or transported to New South Wales or the Islands thereunto adjacent. By virtue of such power and authority so vested as aforesaid, I SIR GEORGE GIPPS, KNIGHT, Captain-General and Governor-in-Chief of Her Majesty's said Territory of New South Wales and its dependencies, and Vice Admiral of the same, taking into consideration the good conduct of REUBEN BUTLER who arrived in this colony in the ship PRINCE REGENT (4) RICHARDS, Master, in the year one thousand eight hundred and TWENTY SEVEN under sentence of transportation for LIFE and who description is on the back hereof, do hereby conditionally remit the remainer of the term or time which is yet to come and unexpired of the original sentence or order of transportation passed on the aforesaid REUBEN BUTLER at OXFORD ASSIZES on the SIXTH day of MARCH one thousand eight hundred and TWENTY SEVEN, provided always and on condition that the said REUBEN BUTLER continue to reside within the limits of this Government for and during the space of HIS original sentence or order of transportation:- otherwise the said REUBEN BUTLER shall be subject to all the pains and penalties of reappearing in Great Britain and Ireland for and during the term of HIS original sentence or order of transportation; or as if this remission has never been granted. Given under my hand and the Seal of the Territory at Government House, Sydney, New South Wales, this FIRST day of OCTOBER in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and FORTY TWO (L.S.) Signed GOV. GIPPS, by His Excellency's Command (Signed) E DEAL THOMSON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grahame & Rosslyn Thom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Exiles from Oxford > Hi list > > I have a friend in Oxford who is preparing a publication on people > convicted and sentenced to transportation from Oxfordshire including > 13 exlies. > > If anyone knows anything about the following exiles could you please > contact me. Or for that matter anyone who has a convict who was > sentenced in Oxfordshire. > > Grahame > > Bartlett, George, arr PP/Geelong on Sir George Seymour in 1845 > > Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 > > Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 > > Cooper, or Cowper, William, arr PP on Sir Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 > > Eden, John alias Coleman, arr on Maitland in 1846 > > Gardner or Gardiner, Samuel, arr Geelong on Joseph Somes in 1847 > > Goolding or Goulding, Henry arr on Maitland in 1846 > > Hatton, or Hatten William alias Smith, arr Geelong on Eden in 1849 > > Perrin, Richard, arr PP on Joseph Somes in 1847 > > Plunkett, Thomas, arr Geelong on Maitland in 1846 > > Spragg, Thomas, arr Sir George Seymour in 1845 > > Ward, William, arr on Maitland in 1846 > > White, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list I have a friend in Oxford who is preparing a publication on people convicted and sentenced to transportation from Oxfordshire including 13 exlies. If anyone knows anything about the following exiles could you please contact me. Or for that matter anyone who has a convict who was sentenced in Oxfordshire. Grahame Bartlett, George, arr PP/Geelong on Sir George Seymour in 1845 Chaundy, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849 Clifford, Daniel, arr PP on Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 Cooper, or Cowper, William, arr PP on Sir Thomas Arbuthnot in 1847 Eden, John alias Coleman, arr on Maitland in 1846 Gardner or Gardiner, Samuel, arr Geelong on Joseph Somes in 1847 Goolding or Goulding, Henry arr on Maitland in 1846 Hatton, or Hatten William alias Smith, arr Geelong on Eden in 1849 Perrin, Richard, arr PP on Joseph Somes in 1847 Plunkett, Thomas, arr Geelong on Maitland in 1846 Spragg, Thomas, arr Sir George Seymour in 1845 Ward, William, arr on Maitland in 1846 White, William, arr PP on Eden in 1849

Hi Am wondering if any of you can help or point me in the right direction. I am trying to find out information about a James Christopher (or Christopher James) FOALKES. I know he was in Geelong (I think in New Town) in 1844 and 1845 (from the Baptism records of his children - Mary Ann and James). He was married to an Ellen CROOKE (although I don't know when or where they married). Beyond this I have little information. My question is two fold: 1. Has anyone else got links to or have any information on the FOALKES' of Geelong. 2. I live in the UK (but return to Melbourne once a year) so am unable to spend a lot of time searching archives myself - can anyone suggest the best places to look for this period of time to try and find more information about James and also the best places to look to see if I can establish if there might be a convict connection (I have found records for 2 James FOALKES who were convicts at the right sort of time but have no way of making a definite connection.) Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Sarah

Good Morning List I am wondering if anyone is researching a James AUSTIN who married a Matilda HAMILTON in 1842. Their children were: AUSTIN James William (b.1844) AUSTIN Eliza (b.1846-Geelong,) AUSTIN Sarah (b.1846-Mt. Sturgeon (Dunkeld) AUSTIN John (b.1848-Geelong, Vic.) AUSTIN Nathaniel (b.1849-Geelong) AUSTIN Eliza Jane (b.1852-Geelong) I do apologize for the scarcity of information but it's all I have. Thank you. Anne Hanson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/708 - Release Date: 2/03/2007 4:19 PM

Hi Dianne, Today I noticed your reply to Daryl re St Mary's Geelong baptisms. Between 1845 & 1855 my Great great grandparents John & Catherine (nee DELANEY) TANNER had a child between 1845 & 1855 which was not registered. The child died before Aug 1856. The children I already have are: John Henry b 25 May 1843 Daniel b 25 Oct 1844 James b 28 Sep 1846 Martha b 28 Sep 1846 (died before Aug 1856, no death found) William b 12 Jun 1849 Frederick b 6 Dec 1850 (G Grandfather) Catherine b 2 Oct 1852, Bendigo (died before Aug 1856 no death found) Ellen b 11 Aug 1856, Plenty Could you please check the baptism records for the additional TANNER child? Is there a register of burials for St Mary's that may contain the burials of either Martha, Catherine or the unregistered baby, please? Many thanks for your help. Rosalyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Dianne Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Crohan children > Daryl, > Here are the baptisms from St. Mary's Geelong. None of the children's > births were registered. > In the St. Mary's baptisms there are four children baptised their > parents are: John and Bridget (Curtain/Curtin) Crohan/Crohen/Cromm > the children : Francis born 1/1/1854, John born 11/12/1855 , Patrick > born 13/8/1857 and Christopher born 6/4/1859. > regards > Dianne Hughes > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Daryl, Here are the baptisms from St. Mary's Geelong. None of the children's births were registered. In the St. Mary's baptisms there are four children baptised their parents are: John and Bridget (Curtain/Curtin) Crohan/Crohen/Cromm the children : Francis born 1/1/1854, John born 11/12/1855 , Patrick born 13/8/1857 and Christopher born 6/4/1859. regards Dianne Hughes

Hi Listers 4 CROHAN chn were admitted to the Geelong Orphanage on 8 Dec 1860 with both parents listed as dead. The chn were... Francis CROHAN, age 6y John CROHAN, age 4y Patrick CROHAN, age 3y Christopher CROHAN, age 1y Their parents appear to have been John CROHAN & Bridget CURTIN from Co Clare, Ireland who married in Melbourne in 1853. The births of the above chn do not appear to be in the Vic Pioneers Index. I am trying to estbalish if the John CROHAN, b. Geelong (not in Pioneeer Index) who married Anastasia McMAHON (dau of Michael McMAHON & Anna Maria BONNER) in 1882 and had 2 daughters in Casterton, Victoria before Anastasia died in Casterton in 1886 is the same John CROHAN from the Orphanage. What happened to John CROHAN? If anyone is researching this family then I would be interested to hear from you. Regards Daryl Povey

G,Day I have spare births of Henry John Gray October 1857 William Sibbard September 1857 Charles Alfred Watkins October 1857. I am seeking information on an arch or memorial archietected by a Mr Mackay for Johnston Park he may have been a solicitor in Geelong, The information I have is very thin any help appreciated . Any information on the Mackay family of Waurn Ponds around 1850s onwards also appreciated Margaret

Many thanks, Lorraine. That was a nice, quick reply! I was hoping that the answer might be something of the sort. I'm glad Elizabeth herself wasn't a criminal - and it's nice to know she could afford gold rings. All the best, Marion

Hi Marion Elizabeth name was mentioned by a Witness details below It was about Jeanette Stewart Alias Scotch Bella for Vagrancy Robbery 3rd Jan 1866 charged with H Leggett Sam Woodall and Mr & Mrs James & Jane Beard with robbing Thomas Costello at Beards public house of 18 pounds, 2 gold keepers, gold earings and about 20 other rings. On the 9th Jan 1866 Mary Riley gave evidence that she was in the bar at the time and did not see anyone interfere with Costello. Jeanette Stewart was not in the bar at the time. The rings produced were from a Mrs Elizabeth Stainsby who Jeanette Stewart had left with her possession over a week ago and had not came back for them. Help this helps Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Stainsby" <[email protected]> To: "GEELONG List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Elizabeth Stainsby Look-up > Dear Listers > > Could SKS please let me know what Elizabeth Stainsby is doing among > the "Wild and Wondrous Women of Geelong" (II 1860-1869 p 103)? I > thought my in-laws were a very respectable lot! > > And I was going to issue a mild protest at seeing my name spelt > "Marian" in the Consolidated Book Index, citing p. 143 of Cliff > Grills's "Bradworthy to the Barrabool Hills: The History of the > Walter Family". But I see it's an accurate transcription of the way > it appears there, though at least it's correct on his p. 7. > > Many thanks! > > Marion > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers Could SKS please let me know what Elizabeth Stainsby is doing among the "Wild and Wondrous Women of Geelong" (II 1860-1869 p 103)? I thought my in-laws were a very respectable lot! And I was going to issue a mild protest at seeing my name spelt "Marian" in the Consolidated Book Index, citing p. 143 of Cliff Grills's "Bradworthy to the Barrabool Hills: The History of the Walter Family". But I see it's an accurate transcription of the way it appears there, though at least it's correct on his p. 7. Many thanks! Marion

I have received the requested pages 27 and 48 from the book St. Mary's Geelong : its founding families. thank you! Nicola Jennings.

I have a huge request re Henry FitzGerald - namely would any one be in a position to do lookups in any of the following titles (all taken from the Geelong and District Consolidated Book Index) 1. St Mary's Geelong : its founding community. P. 27 . References to Fitzgeralds : Alfred John, Austin, Catherine, Edward, Emilia, Georgiana, Honora, Charlotte, Henry , John (1), John (2), John James, Margaret, Mary, Mary Anne, Michael, Patrick , Sabina Christina, Vincent Francis, William and Crofton, . P. 48 - Reference to Henry FitzGerald. 2. Geelong : events in history 1802 - 1972. P. 14. Reference to Henry Fitzgerald. 3. Pivot Tree (Part Index to no. 9 - no. 64). No. 555. P. 10. Reference to Henry Carr FitzGerald. 4. Wild and Wondrous Women of Geelong 1838-1859.pp. 24 and 30. References to Ann FitzGerald. I really need these for elimination as much as information and will gladly pay for photocopies if lookups or scans are not possible. Just hoping someone will point me in the right direction, many many thanks, Nicola Jennings (Dublin).(Researching Henry Carr FitzGerald).

G,Day I have spare births of Henry John Gray October 1857 William Sibbard September 1857 Charles Alfred Watkins October 1857. I am seeking information on an arch or memorial archietected by Mackay for Johnston Park any help appreciated Margaret

Hello Listers Just mentioning my research interests in Geelong of STEWART & SADLER in the hope someone is researching same. William Stewart, his wife Helen nee Grant together with daughters Mary & Frances, arrived in Geelong in 1853 as Assisted Immig. on the "Childe Harold". Frances married William Sadler, a bricklayer, in 1883 at Geelong and children I have found were Clarica Lilian 1884 died 1884 Helen Ruby b 1885 died 1891 Vincent William b 1887 Stanley Palmer b 1890 m Ella Heyward in Geelong 1916. I would be delighted to hear from anyone with connections to the above. Also could I ask listers if possible could they do a look up for me for any death notices of William Stewart who was accidentally killed after falling from a dray 19 April 1869. Both William & Helen are buried in Geelong Eastern Cemetery. Helen died 17 August 1910. Thank you for any help and please contact me off-line if anyone is able to do the look up for me. Joan

The open day at Geelong Heritage Centre displaying the History of Sport in Geelong was simply terrific. Some marvelous artefacts such as the historic 'battered' cricket bat, the embroidered ties and the silver rose bowl trophy, quite wonderful to see. A very big effort to coordinate all those sporting clubs and congratulations to Pam and the Friends of the GHC for succeeding. How did Rod Charles manage to produce that booklet as well as everything else he does? I remember a sports exhibition to do with Geelong's Olympians opened by Geelong's athlete Lee Troop at the Wool Museum a while ago when the then Mayor Mr Peter Mullins undertook to form a Committee to plan for a Geelong Sports Museum. Does anyone know if this Committee exists? Jennifer >A huge thank you to all who braved the hot weather to enjoy our >Sporting Display today! Thank you especially to all those sporting >clubs and historical groups who supported the day with amazing >displays of memorabilia that normally does not see the light of day. >Hopefully all sporting / interest clubs etc will find a member with >a digital camera and a scanner to preserve their records, give a CD >copy to the GHC and hopefully nominate a willing person to write up >their club's history. We have all had a jolt of reality in Geelong >recently with a huge fire that destroyed a shed where the Geelong >Golf Clubs history was being stored - they were one of the first >clubs in Australia, let alone Geelong, and now it has all >gone.Ideally a wonderful new Sports Museum and Research Centre would >be the answer - any councillors out there to push for this!!!! >Again, many thanks, Pam Jennings (President, Friends of GHC) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >http://www.zades.com.au > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

A huge thank you to all who braved the hot weather to enjoy our Sporting Display today! Thank you especially to all those sporting clubs and historical groups who supported the day with amazing displays of memorabilia that normally does not see the light of day. Hopefully all sporting / interest clubs etc will find a member with a digital camera and a scanner to preserve their records, give a CD copy to the GHC and hopefully nominate a willing person to write up their club's history. We have all had a jolt of reality in Geelong recently with a huge fire that destroyed a shed where the Geelong Golf Clubs history was being stored - they were one of the first clubs in Australia, let alone Geelong, and now it has all gone.Ideally a wonderful new Sports Museum and Research Centre would be the answer - any councillors out there to push for this!!!! Again, many thanks, Pam Jennings (President, Friends of GHC)