Hi Ann This is probably Robert's child, Henry. This time from the NSW online index http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District 4968/1858 JACKSON HENRY ROBERT L RACHEL BALRANALD Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEELONG] William and Robert JACKSON Goodmorning everybody, I need some help to sort out the children of my two Jackson brothers please. I have William Jackson arriving to Point Henry on the "Andromache" in 1849. On the same voyage is Maria Neal and her parents and siblings. After arrival William and Maria marry and I would like to know the names of their children please? Some time later, perhaps just a few years Williams brother Robert arrives in Victoria. I don't know if he is married at home in Norfolk or gets married on arrival to Geelong but I would like to know the names of all his children please. I'm fairly sure Robert had at least two children... Robert born Geelong c1855 and Henry born Lower Murray c1859. The name of Roberts wife would be an added bonus if possible please. Both men were born in Norfolk c 1825. A round trip to the nearest gene library or LDS is nearly 3 hours so any help and information about these brothers would be wonderfull. many thanks Ann in Brisbane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Ann This might be Robert's child Robert. Kildare, I think may be in/near Geelong: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: JACKSON Given Names: Robert William Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Laws Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Rachel STAPLETON Age: Sex: Birth Place: KILDARE Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 7656 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEELONG] William and Robert JACKSON Goodmorning everybody, I need some help to sort out the children of my two Jackson brothers please. I have William Jackson arriving to Point Henry on the "Andromache" in 1849. On the same voyage is Maria Neal and her parents and siblings. After arrival William and Maria marry and I would like to know the names of their children please? Some time later, perhaps just a few years Williams brother Robert arrives in Victoria. I don't know if he is married at home in Norfolk or gets married on arrival to Geelong but I would like to know the names of all his children please. I'm fairly sure Robert had at least two children... Robert born Geelong c1855 and Henry born Lower Murray c1859. The name of Roberts wife would be an added bonus if possible please. Both men were born in Norfolk c 1825. A round trip to the nearest gene library or LDS is nearly 3 hours so any help and information about these brothers would be wonderfull. many thanks Ann in Brisbane

HI Ann Here are some results for William. I couldn't find anything matching Robert's children Robert and Henry. Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: JACKSON Given Names: Ellen Maria Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Maria NEAL Age: Sex: Birth Place: GEEL Death Place: Year: 1853 Reg Number: 428 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: JACKSON Given Names: William Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Maria NEAL Age: Sex: Birth Place: GEELONG Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 1825 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEELONG] William and Robert JACKSON Goodmorning everybody, I need some help to sort out the children of my two Jackson brothers please. I have William Jackson arriving to Point Henry on the "Andromache" in 1849. On the same voyage is Maria Neal and her parents and siblings. After arrival William and Maria marry and I would like to know the names of their children please? Some time later, perhaps just a few years Williams brother Robert arrives in Victoria. I don't know if he is married at home in Norfolk or gets married on arrival to Geelong but I would like to know the names of all his children please. I'm fairly sure Robert had at least two children... Robert born Geelong c1855 and Henry born Lower Murray c1859. The name of Roberts wife would be an added bonus if possible please. Both men were born in Norfolk c 1825. A round trip to the nearest gene library or LDS is nearly 3 hours so any help and information about these brothers would be wonderfull. many thanks Ann in Brisbane

Hello to the Cooper searchers out there. I also have Coopers to find but havent had much luck to date. The information I have is that my mother in law was a Gladys Jean Cooper. She was one of six or seven girls in a family whose names were Violet, Dorace, Maisie, Elsie, Ruby and ????? Somewhere I have a hand written list of descendants back to Richards, and Povey names, and was told it goes back to the Lord Nelson Fleet. But none of that has been able to be proven. The details I have on Gladys Jean Cooper are:that her parents were Alfred Herbert Cooper and Mary Louisa (called May) Richards. Parents of Alfred Herbert Cooper were Thomas Cooper and Elizabeth ann Earl. Parents of May Richards were Abraham Richards and Isabella Thompson. Do you have any of these Coopers please? Love to hear from you if you can help with my lot. Margaret

Goodmorning everybody, I need some help to sort out the children of my two Jackson brothers please. I have William Jackson arriving to Point Henry on the "Andromache" in 1849. On the same voyage is Maria Neal and her parents and siblings. After arrival William and Maria marry and I would like to know the names of their children please? Some time later, perhaps just a few years Williams brother Robert arrives in Victoria. I don't know if he is married at home in Norfolk or gets married on arrival to Geelong but I would like to know the names of all his children please. I'm fairly sure Robert had at least two children... Robert born Geelong c1855 and Henry born Lower Murray c1859. The name of Roberts wife would be an added bonus if possible please. Both men were born in Norfolk c 1825. A round trip to the nearest gene library or LDS is nearly 3 hours so any help and information about these brothers would be wonderfull. many thanks Ann in Brisbane

The link is http://tinyurl.com/22nomp It wrapped around -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 21 May 2007 11:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Help with photo Doug, Your link is wrong, you have the same thing twice. Looks like a sibling group. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Doug <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have uploaded an old photo to HYPERLINK > "http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg"http://i194.photo > buc > ket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg and I am asking for help with the > identification. Think the photo was taken at Nhill, Vic. The oldest > man > is probably Charles William Schultz. The next chap is Herbert Victor > Schultz, and the women are Adeline Amelia Schultz, Ella Dorothea Schultz > and > C (Clara?) Price. > > > > Can anyone help me with placing each name to the correct woman? > > > > Regards > > Doug Price > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: > 20/05/2007 > 7:54 AM > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM

Doug, Your link is wrong, you have the same thing twice. Looks like a sibling group. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Doug <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have uploaded an old photo to HYPERLINK > "http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg"http://i194.photo > buc > ket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg and I am asking for help with the > identification. Think the photo was taken at Nhill, Vic. The oldest > man > is probably Charles William Schultz. The next chap is Herbert Victor > Schultz, and the women are Adeline Amelia Schultz, Ella Dorothea Schultz > and > C (Clara?) Price. > > > > Can anyone help me with placing each name to the correct woman? > > > > Regards > > Doug Price > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: > 20/05/2007 > 7:54 AM > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

The link is http://tinyurl.com/22nomp -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Monday, 21 May 2007 10:42 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [GEELONG] Help with photo Hi, I have uploaded an old photo to HYPERLINK "http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg"http://i194.photobuc ket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg and I am asking for help with the identification. Think the photo was taken at Nhill, Vic. The oldest man is probably Charles William Schultz. The next chap is Herbert Victor Schultz, and the women are Adeline Amelia Schultz, Ella Dorothea Schultz and C (Clara?) Price. Can anyone help me with placing each name to the correct woman? Regards Doug Price No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM

Hi, I have uploaded an old photo to HYPERLINK "http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg"http://i194.photobuc ket.com/albums/z29/Doug49/X019.jpg and I am asking for help with the identification. Think the photo was taken at Nhill, Vic. The oldest man is probably Charles William Schultz. The next chap is Herbert Victor Schultz, and the women are Adeline Amelia Schultz, Ella Dorothea Schultz and C (Clara?) Price. Can anyone help me with placing each name to the correct woman? Regards Doug Price No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 20/05/2007 7:54 AM

Hello to Marion, It's Jan Pfeifer here. In my files I've got oodles of Coopers and I've got a John COOPER & a Hannah who had an Eliza Ann COOPER who married 27.4.1892 in Victoria to Edmund LARCOMBE born 29.10.1857 in Mt.Duneed near Geelong & they had 3 children... Leslie John 1893-1968, Frederick Charles 1895-1972 & Hannah Lillian 1897-1951. Eliza was buried 1946 in Mt.Moriac & Edmund was buried 1936 also in Mt.Moraic. I haven;t got any more children listed. Is John Cooper & wife Hannah the ones you were looking for? Regards, Janette in Warragul South, Victoria

Many thanks, Gaylene. for filling in details about the family of John COOPER and Hannah BIRD, which will be very useful in my files for future work, and I'm especially grateful for your time and trouble. You kindly went beyond the Digger Pioneer Index, which gives me a more complete coverage than I had managed through the on-line BDMs, and of course adds the important item of the Place. Modewarre, though possible, is not quite convincing. For my particular purpose at the moment, I still need to pinpoint which John COOPER family was in Highton (or near enough to attend the Highton church) in 1868, and I'm assuming that it was the family that lived near the Wandana Heights Lookout in 1861. But I don't know that the mother of this family had been Hannah BIRD, and the only way I can think of checking is to find some details in BDMs in the 60s which might give me a clue to follow up. Is there some way in which someone can search the Digger Indexes by place-name? One would have to know what possible localities are likely to be named at this stage - Geelong seems too broad, and I've seen Chilwell, Ashby, and Barrabool, but this may depend on where the current Registrar lived at a particular time, and I'm not familiar with them (and that handy GFG Library in Belmont has been closed). No COOPER was so kind as to get buried in the Highton Cemetery in the 1800s to give me a lead that way. I have downloaded 5 pages (i.e. 100 entries) of births and deaths between 1850 & 1880 for COOPERs whose father was called John! It looks as if the Digger Indexes may be the only way to sort these out - if only they can be searched by Place. All I know is that they had a son who was alive in 1914 - I don't know his first name, and I don't know if he grew up in the district or if his comments were based on his own memory or on family stories. I'm not even sure that his mother was MRS COOPER when she sang in 1868. If John was renting a farm in 1861, I assume he was married, but one can't be sure. Any information or suggestions would be VERY gratefully received. We have a deadline of the end of June to hand the first draft of the book to our layout person, and there are many loose ends to research as well as much writing to do - and I am very slow. This list is often a life-saver, especially for those of us with wobbly legs - and so are all the people who selflessly copy book references and everything else onto websites. Thanks, guys - have a medal! Marion

Hi Ada, That's the way I was thinking too but the list of Councillors / Mayors put paid to that idea. BUT it appears that there were two "levels" of election because in the Geelong Advertiser 9th November 1867 ....... "Crs REEVES & MATTHEWS elected Aldermen for Kardinia & Bellarine Wards of Geelong Town Council replacing HEDRICK & ASHMORE respectively". So it seems they were all elected Councillors but the title Alderman was given to those elected to represent a specific Ward within the Council. I think at that stage there were four wards and it was possibly one Alderman per Ward. That seems to make sense! Regards ......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] What is the difference between Alderman andCouncillor? > Hi Susie, > > I was about to suggest, as a councillor chosen by the councillors to be > their leader/ Mayor, that it might mean a councillor who previously held > an > elected office/ Mayor, to show his stature. That was OK for Reeves, but > didn't work for the others. > > Regards Ada > > Ada Ackerly. Melbourne > Formerly Ackerly Docusearch > ----- Original Message -----

Hi Susie, I was about to suggest, as a councillor chosen by the councillors to be their leader/ Mayor, that it might mean a councillor who previously held an elected office/ Mayor, to show his stature. That was OK for Reeves, but didn't work for the others. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:30 AM Subject: [GEELONG] What is the difference between Alderman and Councillor? > Hi Folks, > > I'm currently working on the Market Committee Minutes for the Town of > Geelong. > > This Committee lists some people as "Ald" [Alderman] and others as "Cr" > [Councillor] > > i.e. the Committee on 19th July 1871 - listed in order .......... > The Mayor W F DUCKER Esq > Ald REEVES / Chairman / > Ald MATHEWS > Ald WHITCHELL > Cr INGLIS > Cr HUNT > > Checking the list of Councillors / Mayors from "Geelong: 150 years of > community leadership 1849-1999" by Norm Houghton it lists the following > > DUCKER, W F - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1875 > DUCKER, W F - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1870-1872 > REEVES, Robert - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1882 > REEVES, Robert - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1872-1873 > MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1871 > MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1877-1879 > WHITCHELL, John - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1873 > INGLIS, Thomas - Cr Geelong City Council 1870-1877 > HUNT, Thomas Barber - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1877 > > Can anyone tell me why some were called Alderman and others Councillor? I > can't see any pattern or reason. > > The Australian Concise Oxford Dictionary ... > > Alderman: > 1. [esp hist] a co-opted member of an English county or borough council, > next in dignity to the Mayor > 2. [US] the elected governor of a city > 3. an elected local government councillor > > Councillor: > an elected member of a council, esp. a local one > > Is it something to do with seniority?? > > Hoping someone might have a sensible suggestion - it's just one of those > things that bugs you when you can't find an answer! <vbg> > > Regards ............. Susie Z > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a suggestion Susie, maybe one was elected the other appointed. cheers Grahame On 21/05/2007, at 8:30 AM, Susie Zada wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm currently working on the Market Committee Minutes for the Town of > Geelong. > > This Committee lists some people as "Ald" [Alderman] and others as > "Cr" > [Councillor] > > i.e. the Committee on 19th July 1871 - listed in order .......... > The Mayor W F DUCKER Esq > Ald REEVES / Chairman / > Ald MATHEWS > Ald WHITCHELL > Cr INGLIS > Cr HUNT >

Hi Folks, I'm currently working on the Market Committee Minutes for the Town of Geelong. This Committee lists some people as "Ald" [Alderman] and others as "Cr" [Councillor] i.e. the Committee on 19th July 1871 - listed in order .......... The Mayor W F DUCKER Esq Ald REEVES / Chairman / Ald MATHEWS Ald WHITCHELL Cr INGLIS Cr HUNT Checking the list of Councillors / Mayors from "Geelong: 150 years of community leadership 1849-1999" by Norm Houghton it lists the following DUCKER, W F - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1875 DUCKER, W F - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1870-1872 REEVES, Robert - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1882 REEVES, Robert - M[ayor] Geelong City Council 1872-1873 MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1871 MATHEWS, Patrick James - Cr Geelong City Council 1877-1879 WHITCHELL, John - Cr Geelong City Council 1863-1873 INGLIS, Thomas - Cr Geelong City Council 1870-1877 HUNT, Thomas Barber - Cr Geelong City Council 1868-1877 Can anyone tell me why some were called Alderman and others Councillor? I can't see any pattern or reason. The Australian Concise Oxford Dictionary ... Alderman: 1. [esp hist] a co-opted member of an English county or borough council, next in dignity to the Mayor 2. [US] the elected governor of a city 3. an elected local government councillor Councillor: an elected member of a council, esp. a local one Is it something to do with seniority?? Hoping someone might have a sensible suggestion - it's just one of those things that bugs you when you can't find an answer! <vbg> Regards ............. Susie Z

Hi Jennifer, I didn't know about that list. Thank you very much Doug -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JenniferBantow Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2007 10:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Genealogy Photos You could subscribe to [email protected] You see some fascinating photos, among other things, they help date by clothes and sizes. Jennifer >Hi People, > > > >I have many old photos where I know one or two people but the rest in the >photo I do not know. Is there a genealogy site that one can post these >photos for all to see and maybe find their ancestors? Is something like >photbucket the only way? It would be great to have a genealogy site. > > > >Regards > >Doug ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 19/05/2007 1:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 19/05/2007 1:52 PM

You could subscribe to [email protected] You see some fascinating photos, among other things, they help date by clothes and sizes. Jennifer >Hi People, > > > >I have many old photos where I know one or two people but the rest in the >photo I do not know. Is there a genealogy site that one can post these >photos for all to see and maybe find their ancestors? Is something like >photbucket the only way? It would be great to have a genealogy site. > > > >Regards > >Doug

Hi People, I have many old photos where I know one or two people but the rest in the photo I do not know. Is there a genealogy site that one can post these photos for all to see and maybe find their ancestors? Is something like photbucket the only way? It would be great to have a genealogy site. Regards Doug No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 19/05/2007 1:52 PM

Are they going to destroy Geelong West the way they have other areas. Some of the beautiful housing in other areas of Geelong that have totally inappropriate units and dreadful houses. just look at East Geelong and what the City Council or Clown Hall, as my daughter refers to them, have done there. Put up blocks of dreadful flats and houses which stand out like sore thumbs. Dreadful!! Dianne Hughes

There are two burials at Meredith of members of the Cruickshank family, James in 1885 and Mary in 1884. I don't know where they came from or any further information. regards Dianne Hughes