Hello Kaye In these pages, the book describes the development of settlement in Belmont. This section is about the subdivision of the last 60 acres of Dr Thomson's pastoral run, "Kardinia", which by the 1890s was "confined between Colac Road [ie High Street], Thomson Street, and Mount Pleasant Road" - and one should add the Barwon River as its north boundary. The name Jorgenson is among others who are listed in the ratebooks in 1910, though not having been there in 1906 - "perhaps some 25 houses in all". I hope this is of some help. Good hunting! Marion

Does anyone have a copy of the book South Barwon 1857 - 1985 I am searching for the Jorgensen family and have found the name on the index for the books for the Geelong area. It is page 50 I would appreciate it if someone could look it up for me. Many thank Kaye Vernon www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm

Ada, I too am particularly interested in Williamstown history, especially in John Peter Armstrong who was in PP from 1835 - 1842 as far as I can distinguish. He was often in command of small vessels, but I have lost him after 1842. If you ever come across him I will be most happy to hear from you about this man, who I have spent many years researching. He always distinguished himself as "John Peter" Armstrong. cheers Jenny Fawcett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sallie Ramsay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > > > > I'll try to answer any query you have on Williamstown > > > > Regards Ada > > > > > > Ada Ackerly. Melbourne > > Formerly Ackerly Docusearch > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Williams" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:03 PM > > Subject: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > > > > > >> Can anyone assist with the name or address of a list which might cover > >> the > > Williamstown (Vic) area, as I cannot seem to find an appropriate one. Will > > the Geelong one cover that area ? > >> > >> Many thanks > >> John > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > >> http://www.zades.com.au > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > > http://www.zades.com.au > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2399 (20070714) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > I'll try to answer any query you have on Williamstown > > Regards Ada > > > Ada Ackerly. Melbourne > Formerly Ackerly Docusearch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Williams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:03 PM > Subject: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > > >> Can anyone assist with the name or address of a list which might cover >> the > Williamstown (Vic) area, as I cannot seem to find an appropriate one. Will > the Geelong one cover that area ? >> >> Many thanks >> John >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >> http://www.zades.com.au >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ NOD32 2399 (20070714) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

unsbscribe

There's also a MELBOURNE List which would cover Willy. Cheers Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia To subscribe to the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "subscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > I'll try to answer any query you have on Williamstown > > Regards Ada

I'll try to answer any query you have on Williamstown Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Williamstown area list? > Can anyone assist with the name or address of a list which might cover the Williamstown (Vic) area, as I cannot seem to find an appropriate one. Will the Geelong one cover that area ? > > Many thanks > John > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone assist with the name or address of a list which might cover the Williamstown (Vic) area, as I cannot seem to find an appropriate one. Will the Geelong one cover that area ? Many thanks John

Thanks Susie for the info. Much appreciated Chris On 14/07/2007, at 10:21 AM, Susie Zada wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Australia has nothing similar to the English census - they were done > but not > kept - there are small parts of some, mainly in New South Wales or the > early > part of the 19th Century when they were called "Musters" - too early > for > Victoria. > > For "local" Geelong information, your best option are the various > Directories - some on-line at ......... > > http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtopic.htm > > Also, local rate books can help but of course neither of these options > with > give you the family members, just the head of the house. > > So although it appears we are behind the UK in resources we more than > make > up for it with our BDM indexes and certificates - ours are so superior > to > the English ones!! > > You don't mention where you live but Vic BDM Indexes are available at > most > larger libraries / genie centres etc. (older ones on fiche, newer ones > on > CD) In Geelong - Geelong Heritage Centre, Geelong Regional Libraries, > Deakin Uni (Waterfront), LDS FHC Centre, and local historical and > family > history societies. > > Regards .......... Susie Z > > Regards ............... Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kfarrow" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:04 AM > Subject: [GEELONG] Census Query > > >> Can someone answer a possibly stupid question please? After gaining so >> much info from the English Census details, does Australia have such >> records. Were they taking Census details too...Geelong in particular >> for me? >> Regards >> Chris >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >> http://www.zades.com.au >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > Ken and Chris Farrow 3 Longshore Street Torquay, 3228 Australia 0352647613 (H) 0417689728 (M-Ken) 0418686752 (M-Chris) [email protected] (H)

Thanks john elizabeth John Whitehand wrote: >On Saturday 14 July 2007 12:59:21 Eliz Cook wrote: > > >>Thanks Susie >>The time is either before 1896 or after 1903 >>thanks >> >>elizabethSusie Zada wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Elizabeth, >>> >>>Have you contacted the gaol? A lot of research has been done when (and >>>since) it was set up as a museum. >>> >>>Also you don't mention what period - directories for the relevant time >>>frame may help. And of course, if it was 19th Century then you should >>>find something in the Geelong Advertiser indexes at the Geelong Heritage >>>Centre. >>> >>>Regards ........... Susie Z >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Eliz Cook" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:48 AM >>>Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong jail >>> >>> >>> >>>>We have a family yarn that a rel worked at the Geelong Jail. >>>>Is there a list of Governors/other workers? >>>>His name was George Furnell >>>>Elizabeth<edited> >>>> >>>> >Hello Elizabeth, > George Furnell was the subject of a query on this list over the past >fortnight. >Unfortunately I didn't save the thread . I believe George may have >been an English trained Prison Officer and held a position as Governor >of Geelong Gaol. > Some of his family have been linked to education (Geelong Grammar) >and Williamstown. >Check the Archives of this list for some additional contacts. >bfn > John > > >

On Saturday 14 July 2007 12:59:21 Eliz Cook wrote: > Thanks Susie > The time is either before 1896 or after 1903 > thanks > > elizabethSusie Zada wrote: > >Hi Elizabeth, > > > >Have you contacted the gaol? A lot of research has been done when (and > >since) it was set up as a museum. > > > >Also you don't mention what period - directories for the relevant time > > frame may help. And of course, if it was 19th Century then you should > > find something in the Geelong Advertiser indexes at the Geelong Heritage > > Centre. > > > >Regards ........... Susie Z > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Eliz Cook" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:48 AM > >Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong jail > > > >>We have a family yarn that a rel worked at the Geelong Jail. > >>Is there a list of Governors/other workers? > >>His name was George Furnell > >>Elizabeth<edited> Hello Elizabeth, George Furnell was the subject of a query on this list over the past fortnight. Unfortunately I didn't save the thread . I believe George may have been an English trained Prison Officer and held a position as Governor of Geelong Gaol. Some of his family have been linked to education (Geelong Grammar) and Williamstown. Check the Archives of this list for some additional contacts. bfn John -- John Whitehand Melbourne Australia ~ a Linux (Ubuntu"Feisty Fawn") Desktop ~ http://home.vicnet.net.au/~whitehaj/index.html

Thanks Susie The time is either before 1896 or after 1903 thanks elizabethSusie Zada wrote: >Hi Elizabeth, > >Have you contacted the gaol? A lot of research has been done when (and >since) it was set up as a museum. > >Also you don't mention what period - directories for the relevant time frame >may help. And of course, if it was 19th Century then you should find >something in the Geelong Advertiser indexes at the Geelong Heritage Centre. > >Regards ........... Susie Z > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eliz Cook" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:48 AM >Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong jail > > > > >>We have a family yarn that a rel worked at the Geelong Jail. >>Is there a list of Governors/other workers? >>His name was George Furnell >>Elizabeth >> >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >http://www.zades.com.au > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Elizabeth, Have you contacted the gaol? A lot of research has been done when (and since) it was set up as a museum. Also you don't mention what period - directories for the relevant time frame may help. And of course, if it was 19th Century then you should find something in the Geelong Advertiser indexes at the Geelong Heritage Centre. Regards ........... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Cook" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Geelong jail > We have a family yarn that a rel worked at the Geelong Jail. > Is there a list of Governors/other workers? > His name was George Furnell > Elizabeth

We have a family yarn that a rel worked at the Geelong Jail. Is there a list of Governors/other workers? His name was George Furnell Elizabeth

Hi Chris, Australia has nothing similar to the English census - they were done but not kept - there are small parts of some, mainly in New South Wales or the early part of the 19th Century when they were called "Musters" - too early for Victoria. For "local" Geelong information, your best option are the various Directories - some on-line at ......... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdtopic.htm Also, local rate books can help but of course neither of these options with give you the family members, just the head of the house. So although it appears we are behind the UK in resources we more than make up for it with our BDM indexes and certificates - ours are so superior to the English ones!! You don't mention where you live but Vic BDM Indexes are available at most larger libraries / genie centres etc. (older ones on fiche, newer ones on CD) In Geelong - Geelong Heritage Centre, Geelong Regional Libraries, Deakin Uni (Waterfront), LDS FHC Centre, and local historical and family history societies. Regards .......... Susie Z Regards ............... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "kfarrow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: [GEELONG] Census Query > Can someone answer a possibly stupid question please? After gaining so > much info from the English Census details, does Australia have such > records. Were they taking Census details too...Geelong in particular > for me? > Regards > Chris > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone answer a possibly stupid question please? After gaining so much info from the English Census details, does Australia have such records. Were they taking Census details too...Geelong in particular for me? Regards Chris

Seeking information on anyone connected to Christian and Johanna August Jorgensen in the 1860s in Geelong. Kaye Vernon www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm

Thank you Shirley I will chase that up.... Elizabeth Shirley wrote: >Hi Elizabeth, >Whilst Googling for your FURNELL name query, I found another reference to >the surname. There was a reference to a Harry FURNELL, a brother of Herbert >Giblin FURNELL (mentioned in the other email) and a son of George William >FURNELL (English born gaol governor). > >Harry played for the Carlton F.C. Hope this will be of some help to you, >one way or the other. See link below - > >http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index.php?page=Harry+Furnell > >Regards, >Shirley. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >http://www.zades.com.au > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Elizabeth, Whilst Googling for your FURNELL name query, I found another reference to the surname. There was a reference to a Harry FURNELL, a brother of Herbert Giblin FURNELL (mentioned in the other email) and a son of George William FURNELL (English born gaol governor). Harry played for the Carlton F.C. Hope this will be of some help to you, one way or the other. See link below - http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index.php?page=Harry+Furnell Regards, Shirley.

Hi Elizabeth, There is a reference on Australian Dictionary of Biography, online edition - to a Herbert Giblin FURNELL 1898 - 1973, who was a son of George William FURNELL, a gaol governor from England and his 2nd wife, Florence Ellen HERBERT. There are references to Geelong. For your information. This is the link - http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A140264b.htm Regards, Shirley.