Hi Ada, Sorry to take so long to reply - car repairs to be done, visitors to collect and entertain, etc. Re the indication/s of a wedding photo, I did not phrase that very well. I was not referring to the book as the indication of marriage, but to the fact that Catherine's left hand was posed so that the ring and ring finger were visible. I have found quite a number of such photos (incl. one of my Gramdma Catherine Mary FLYNN TANNER whose left hand was resting on her right hand which held her bouquet, and my Mum whose left hand was resting on her right upper chest). Some have the left hand on seated husband's shoulder, on a piece of furniture, etc. Because of the fact that the photo has been scanned and sent to me via email, I do not know if it was a dageurrotype or on card, but assume that because the image was clear it probably was on card. I cannot make out a photographer's name on the image. Rosalyn > Hello Rosalyn, > > It depended on the photographer what props and poses were used. > > I have never seen the observation that the hand on a book indicated a > wedding photo. > > If your photo was 1842, it would be inside a gilt framed leather-like > covering with closing lid, and the photo would be on a silver mirror-like > surface covered with glass and difficult to see at an angle. Known as a > dageurrotype, costing a full year's wages for an agricultural worker. > > If this is mounted on card, then the earliest it could be is early 1850s. > If > it is mounted, is there a name of a photographer on the front or back? > > Regards Ada > > Ada Ackerly. Melbourne > Formerly Ackerly Docusearch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > > >> Hi Everyone, >> Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) >> TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in >> her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a > book, >> appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in > 1842. >> Is that a possibility? >> >> Hope someone can help, please, >> >> Rosalyn >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District >> http://www.zades.com.au >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, my name is Olwen and I started looking into my family tree a couple of months ago. My great great great grandfather William Wilkie Foulds died in Marcus Hill in 1901 and is buried with his second wife Janet (d. 1902) in Queenscliff cemetery. They'd been in Victoria about 45 years, before that William Wilkie had been about 5 years in SA after coming from Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland to SA in 1849 with his first wife and children as government assisted immigrants. William and Janet had 5 children: Sophia Cameron, Elizabeth McBride (named after William Wilkie's first wife who died in SA in 1851, she married Joseph Ronalds Lukey), Allen, Alexander Charles and Angus. I'd love to hear from anyone who has connections with the Foulds family or information on them. Thank you Regards Olwen

VPRS 880/P0 Unit 63 Avoca, Ballarat, Red Hill Ballarat, Brown Hill Ballarat, Bakery Hill Ballarat, Sebastopol Ballarat, Belvoir, Benalla, Berwich, Belmont Geelong, Broadmeadows, Cape Bridgewater, Campbells Creek,Colac, Castlemaine, Collingwood Rose St, Collingwood Bell St, Collingwood North, Collingwood Oxford St, Collingwood East Peel St, Collingwood East. Creswick, Dunkeld, Eaglehawk Sandhurst, Eltham, Emerald Hill, Forest Creek, Fryerstown, Geelong Newtown, Geelong, Geelong Ashby, Gisborne, Glenorchy, Hamilton, Hawthorn, Heathcote, Heidelberg, Heywood, Horsham, Kyneton, Kilmore, Maddingly Bacchus Marsh, Merri Creek, Melbourne North, Melbourne Russell St, Melbourne South, Melbourne West King St, Oakleigh, Prahran. Portland, Point Nepean, Plenty, Pentridge, Richmond, Somerton, Sandridge, St Kilda, St Albans, Sale,Seymour, Tower Hill Lake, Tarraville, Tarradale, Warrnambool, Wangoom, Woodford, Woodend, Immigrant's Home Melbourne, Training School teachers and Staff, National Board and Staff at headquarters. Many of these schools with staff, etc have gone up on the groups: Geelong, Goldfields, Gippsland, Western District, to which I subscribe. There are some central/Northern Victoria schools that I have not put up, because I'm not really sure of the boundaries of them, and I'm not a subscriber. Perhaps someone from those areas/groups, could pick out the schools from the above lists to let me know? I may put up the Melbourne & suburbs on the Melbourne group in a few days, but lots of typing for that! Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files Hi all, I may have given a wrong impression on my find: First, there is a listing of EVERY teacher employed at 31 June 1858, in EVERY National School in Victoria. Second, there are individual returns from schools listing their staff. The first is not alphabetically arranged, numbers 62 pages of closely written columns, without naming the actual school. That's what I thought I might photograph and then index. The second, the individual sheets for each school, sometimes have a staff of one, usually two, and sometimes up to 5 teachers named. That's the one I have been transcribing (and tried to photograph) this week.That's the one I have drawn off the Geelong schools for email. In the meantime (third) , I had been transcribing the applications by individuals to be teachers 1852 on). I think I sent an email about a year ago of those who claimed Geelong connections, and I have a few more to add later (1856 on ) in a future message. I am now transcribing 1861/2 letters But now: VPRS 880/p0 Unit 63 Individual National Schools & staff: GEELONG Ashby: Collins, Patrick Robert,teacher,salary £80 appointed 1 May 1856, Age 42, school hours 9-4 born Dublin Chof England Collins, Elizabeth, workmistress, salary £24 appointed 1 May 1856 age 26, school hours 9-4 born Dublin, Ch of England. Interestingly, one sheet, for Berwick and Belmont schools was filled out by the same man, with identical mistakes in the entries. . I don't think there was a Belmont near Berwick, and I do know there was one near Geelong, so here it is, just in case it's Geelong: BELMONT Ryder, John, master, salary £104 appointed Dec 1856, age 40, school hours 9.30-4, born Plymouth, Wesleyan Free Church Thankyou for your kind suggestions on my inept photographic skills with a digital SLR. I'm close to feeling like entering the home for the bewilded! Who would know I did a lot of professional photography and restoration over 40 years. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Hi Ada, > > I'm absolutely 100% certain that we can arrange some volunteers to help with > this - particularly with transcribing the names / details if you photograph > them or helping with photographing them. > > You only have to say what you think we can help with and it will be > organised - to your explicit instructions! <vbg> > > It would be wonderful to get a list of teachers in the National Schools in > 1858 for our Geelong & District Region so anything we can help you with you > just need to yell (loudly!). > > Regards ............ Susie Z > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps it might be the prominence of the left hand, displaying the wedding ring, is where the link with weddings might be? Marion

Hello Rosalyn, It depended on the photographer what props and poses were used. I have never seen the observation that the hand on a book indicated a wedding photo. If your photo was 1842, it would be inside a gilt framed leather-like covering with closing lid, and the photo would be on a silver mirror-like surface covered with glass and difficult to see at an angle. Known as a dageurrotype, costing a full year's wages for an agricultural worker. If this is mounted on card, then the earliest it could be is early 1850s. If it is mounted, is there a name of a photographer on the front or back? Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > Hi Everyone, > Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) > TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in > her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a book, > appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in 1842. > Is that a possibility? > > Hope someone can help, please, > > Rosalyn > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Suzie (and Ada), Firstly the photo that I have received is a digital image, from a copy of a copy if I am not mistaken. I cannot see any impression of a photographers mark, and do not know what the frame, etc, was like. Catherine and John Henry TANNER were actually married at St Francis in Melbourne, so the photo may have been taken there. Catherine is seated, looking directly at the camera, and can be seen from her lap up. The light source appears to be from the right front of the photo, so shines more on her left side. The background is a heavyish but light reflective material. She could be sitting near a window sill, and having a small table with a floral patterned tablecloth on her right hand side and to the rear of the photo. There are horizontal lines from the flat surface to top of photo, looking like pleated drapes or wall-papered joinery. Catherine's dark hair is centre parted and severely drawn back, and she is wearing a white(?) bonnet that ties under her chin with with long 3 inch wide ribbons that fall to her waist. The bonnet brim stands up from her faceat the top and tucks right in under her chin at the bottom. It is filled with what appears to be heavily frilled lace to frame the face. The back of the bonnet has a frilled, lace-edged extension that covers the back of the neck. It has a stripe of dark (black?) narrow ribbon which would indicate to me that she was coming out of a mourning period. She was 20 when married, and her rather austere face does not seem to show the ravages of time, ie no wrinkles, etc. Her dress appears to be silk or taffeta perhaps, in what appears to be a gingham checked pattern, of dark and mid-tones. The skirt is heavily gathered from the waist, but the bottom can't be seen. The sleeves are very full from just above the wrists to below the shoulders - not like leg o'mutton sleeves that are full higher up the arm. The gathering of the sleeve appears to come from a dropped shoulder line. She is wearing a dark coloured, very finely woven, fringed shawl that either shows the gingham of the dress or is itself of gingham checked in darker shades. This may be attached to the dress, and covers the back, upper arms and front of the body, finishing above the waist. Catherine has a light coloured, shorter handled parasol leaning against her legs. It appears to have a floral pattern close to the rim of the parasol. The handle may be one of the ornamental bird heads ones, or a know, but it has a tassell handing from it. She is holding what appears to be a heavily embossed leather bound book - approx 6 X 8 inches. A plain ring is just visible on the ring finger of her left hand. I hope this helps to define it a little more. It would be great to even find folk with photos taken with a similar background, etc. Rosalyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > Hello Rosalyn, > > Hopefully Ada might add her experience / knowledge to this question but if > you believe this to be a photo of you gg-grandmother on her wedding day > (1842 in Geelong) then I think the answer is definitely highly unlikely > (or > perhaps close to impossible!). > > For a more informed answer you need to describe the type of photo - > daguerreotype, CDV etc. and whether there are any photographers names etc. > on the photo surround (front or rear). > > Regards .............. Susie Z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > > >> Hi Everyone, >> Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) >> TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in >> her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a >> book, >> appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in >> 1842. >> Is that a possibility? >> >> Hope someone can help, please, >> >> Rosalyn > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your links were interesting Rosalyn, I too have photos I am trying to date. The album came from geelong area but the photo's were mainly from uk and melbourne. I found a number of photos with very similar backdrops and poses and I am sure the same props at times. also the clothing was similar to several shown, a great help in placing these I hope. They also mention that the process took so long hands needed to rest on something to keep still and sometimes even a stand was used to hold the head still!. No wonder some expressions look fixed and uncomfortable. great help Linda

Hello Rosalyn, Hopefully Ada might add her experience / knowledge to this question but if you believe this to be a photo of you gg-grandmother on her wedding day (1842 in Geelong) then I think the answer is definitely highly unlikely (or perhaps close to impossible!). For a more informed answer you need to describe the type of photo - daguerreotype, CDV etc. and whether there are any photographers names etc. on the photo surround (front or rear). Regards .............. Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > Hi Everyone, > Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) > TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in > her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a > book, > appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in > 1842. > Is that a possibility? > > Hope someone can help, please, > > Rosalyn

Thanks for your email, Robyn. I found the site you recommended and it is a great help. This is a site you might like to have a look at; http://www.acay.com.au/~gsm/1850s.html also http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/index.php?irn=168183&search=1835+dress&images=on&c=&s= The 1st is photos, sketches etc from victorian colonial times, the 2nd actual garments & descriptions from the Power house Museum in Sydney. The caped silk dress made 1835 is very similar to the one Catherine is wearing in her photo. Many thank, Rosalyn Hi Rosalyn I have been sent a copy of my ancestors across te hbottom of which is written "START ON THE LAND 1850 VICTORIA" The date has been overwritten and as I only have a photocopy of a photoo it is hard to make out what has been overwritten but I think it perahaps 1861 which would be more in line with the guessed ages of the people in the photo. As this family did not arrive in Australia until 1853 the 1850 is not true. 1861would be more accurate. A quick internet seach revealed a site "The history of Photograpy in South Ausrtralia 1845-1915" users.chariot.net.au/~rjnoye · This would seem to indicate that your photo could indeed have been made close to 1842. Some internet research should provide some ideas about dates and palces. Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > Hi Everyone, > Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) > TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in > her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a book, > appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in 1842. > Is that a possibility? > > Hope someone can help, please, > > Rosalyn > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rosalyn I have been sent a copy of my ancestors across te hbottom of which is written "START ON THE LAND 1850 VICTORIA" The date has been overwritten and as I only have a photocopy of a photoo it is hard to make out what has been overwritten but I think it perahaps 1861 which would be more in line with the guessed ages of the people in the photo. As this family did not arrive in Australia until 1853 the 1850 is not true. 1861would be more accurate. A quick internet seach revealed a site "The history of Photograpy in South Ausrtralia 1845-1915" users.chariot.net.au/~rjnoye · This would seem to indicate that your photo could indeed have been made close to 1842. Some internet research should provide some ideas about dates and palces. Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalyn Strutton Smaill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Earliest Victorian Photos > Hi Everyone, > Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) > TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in > her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a book, > appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in 1842. > Is that a possibility? > > Hope someone can help, please, > > Rosalyn > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, Recently I obtained a photo of my G G Grandmother, Catherine (DELANEY) TANNER who spent about 9 yrs in Geelong. It appears to be taken early in her life from appearance & her clothing. Her left hand is placed on a book, appearing to indicate that it was a wedding photo, but she married in 1842. Is that a possibility? Hope someone can help, please, Rosalyn

A reminder that this year's Annual Exhibition of the Vern McCallum Collection of historical photographs of the Western District of Victoria will be held on 25-26 August in the Digby Memorial Hall (at the intersection of the Hamilton-Dartmoor and Portland-Casterton roads). This will be a whole-of-town weekend, with the thousand or more photographs, a McCallum Family Reunion, and extensive displays arranged by the Digby Hall Committee. Details and samples available online at... http://www.mccallum-collection.org/ Regards Daryl Povey

Thanks Di, but I don't think i will be getting down there soon. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert & Di Christensen Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 5:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files Kaye The PROV has moved in that time so check its location before you visit next Di in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye Vernon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Ada > I live in Sydney. I went to the PRO about 15 years ago but at that stage I > was unaware of the Geelong connection. > Not sure if I will be getting down there any time soon. > Kaye > > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ada > Ackerly > Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 4:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > > Hello Kaye, > > Sorry, no there are no pupils in this series. Have you been into the VPRO > and looked at their education listings in the shelving system just inside > the door of the > e message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kaye The PROV has moved in that time so check its location before you visit next Di in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye Vernon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Ada > I live in Sydney. I went to the PRO about 15 years ago but at that stage I > was unaware of the Geelong connection. > Not sure if I will be getting down there any time soon. > Kaye > > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ada > Ackerly > Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 4:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > > Hello Kaye, > > Sorry, no there are no pupils in this series. Have you been into the VPRO > and looked at their education listings in the shelving system just inside > the door of the > e message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ada I live in Sydney. I went to the PRO about 15 years ago but at that stage I was unaware of the Geelong connection. Not sure if I will be getting down there any time soon. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ada Ackerly Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files Hello Kaye, Sorry, no there are no pupils in this series. Have you been into the VPRO and looked at their education listings in the shelving system just inside the door of the e message

Hello Kaye, Sorry, no there are no pupils in this series. Have you been into the VPRO and looked at their education listings in the shelving system just inside the door of the search room ? I'm not sure what is there, exactly. So much has been lost from the National and Denominational school boards 1850s-1860s. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye Vernon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Ada > Do these records have pupils listed? > Kaye > > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ada > Ackerly > Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > > Hi all, > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ada Do these records have pupils listed? Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ada Ackerly Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files Hi all,

Hi all, I may have given a wrong impression on my find: First, there is a listing of EVERY teacher employed at 31 June 1858, in EVERY National School in Victoria. Second, there are individual returns from schools listing their staff. The first is not alphabetically arranged, numbers 62 pages of closely written columns, without naming the actual school. That's what I thought I might photograph and then index. The second, the individual sheets for each school, sometimes have a staff of one, usually two, and sometimes up to 5 teachers named. That's the one I have been transcribing (and tried to photograph) this week.That's the one I have drawn off the Geelong schools for email. In the meantime (third) , I had been transcribing the applications by individuals to be teachers 1852 on). I think I sent an email about a year ago of those who claimed Geelong connections, and I have a few more to add later (1856 on ) in a future message. I am now transcribing 1861/2 letters But now: VPRS 880/p0 Unit 63 Individual National Schools & staff: GEELONG Ashby: Collins, Patrick Robert,teacher,salary £80 appointed 1 May 1856, Age 42, school hours 9-4 born Dublin Chof England Collins, Elizabeth, workmistress, salary £24 appointed 1 May 1856 age 26, school hours 9-4 born Dublin, Ch of England. Interestingly, one sheet, for Berwick and Belmont schools was filled out by the same man, with identical mistakes in the entries. . I don't think there was a Belmont near Berwick, and I do know there was one near Geelong, so here it is, just in case it's Geelong: BELMONT Ryder, John, master, salary £104 appointed Dec 1856, age 40, school hours 9.30-4, born Plymouth, Wesleyan Free Church Thankyou for your kind suggestions on my inept photographic skills with a digital SLR. I'm close to feeling like entering the home for the bewilded! Who would know I did a lot of professional photography and restoration over 40 years. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Hi Ada, > > I'm absolutely 100% certain that we can arrange some volunteers to help with > this - particularly with transcribing the names / details if you photograph > them or helping with photographing them. > > You only have to say what you think we can help with and it will be > organised - to your explicit instructions! <vbg> > > It would be wonderful to get a list of teachers in the National Schools in > 1858 for our Geelong & District Region so anything we can help you with you > just need to yell (loudly!). > > Regards ............ Susie Z > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ada, maybe try using the timer on your camera to take the photo, may eliminate the shake if you dont have a remote. I cant imagine standing on a ladder balancing and trying not to shake is easy. sometimes on close ups I may need to focus manually to get the best picture. then the camera does not need to try and focus each time. and if the screen and stand dont move it should be ok once one is. on books ,if up close sometimes the bends in the page make some in focus and some not. I found sometimes on screens put something like a small piece of paper with dark spot or cross on the screen to focus on. Even just hold it there while focussing in dim light can help. another way if you are too close for the lens, try putting camera on highest setting and moving back a little, then zoom in later on on the picture.sometimes works. hope it may help Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files Hello Susie, Wel, today I went in with my camera, Pam screwed it to the stand on the table and brought in a ladder so I could check through the viewfinder (an SLR does not use the screen on the back). Very awkward, I think I may need to put the stand on the floor... whatever, my back gave out and I must have accidentally touched one of the tiny buttons on the body ... and every image was blurred, so I've been transcribing them by hand. Anyway, here are the lists for the Geelong Schools, teachers working as at 31 June 1878. VPRS 880/po Unit 63. GEELONG Newtown McKeegan, James, master, salary £100. Appointed 1 Feb 1856, age 54 School hours 9-4, he born Enniskullen N Ireland, Roman Catholic. McKeegan, Maria, work mistress,salary £30. Appointed 1 Feb 1856, age 40 School hours 2-3.30, she born Billurbet Cavan N Ireland, Roman Catholic McKeegan, Maria, Monitress, salary £20. Appointed 1 Jun 1857, age 15. School hours 9.30-4, she born Ireland Roman Catholic McKeegan, William, Pupil teacher, salary nil, Appointed 1 Jun 1857, age 13, School hours 9.30-4, he born Ireland, Roman catholic. GEELONG (no address) Brown, Gilbert, headmaster,salary £250 Appointed 18 Jan 1858 age 26 School hours 9-4 born England CofE Syms, William, 2nd master , salary £250 appointed 18 Jan 1858, age 45 School hours 9-4 born England CofE Burtt, Walker 3rd master, salary £125 appointed 18 Jan 1858, age 44 school hours 9-4 born Scotland Church of Scotland Molseno (or Molteno), Frederick, 4th master, salary £125 appointed 18 Jan 1858 age 34 school hours 9-4 born England, CofE That's it, I'll send another message tomorrow. Regards Ada Ada Ackerly. Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Zada" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Ada and School / Teacher Files > Hi Ada, > > I'm absolutely 100% certain that we can arrange some volunteers to help with > this - particularly with transcribing the names / details if you photograph > them or helping with photographing them. > > You only have to say what you think we can help with and it will be > organised - to your explicit instructions! <vbg> > > It would be wonderful to get a list of teachers in the National Schools in > 1858 for our Geelong & District Region so anything we can help you with you > just need to yell (loudly!). > > Regards ............ Susie Z > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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