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    1. [GEELONG] Colac; Dawn Peel
    2. Marion Stainsby
    3. > Thank You Marion, > That adds a little background to the baptism of Mary Jane. > The book by Dawn Peel what information does it have in it? > Is Dawn on this list? > I have Peel's on my wifes side from Inverleigh > > Regards > Russell I'm pretty sure that Dawn's husband was a relative of the Inverleigh PEELs. I've only skimmed through her book (needing to concentrate for the moment on the one I'm helping to write), but found it very clear and informative. I think it's called something like "1857: Year of Hope". She tries to give a picture of the life of Colac in that one year in particular, of course relating it to the previous history of the area, and mentions a number of families. She lives in or near Colac, and I'm sure their Historical Society could put you in touch with her. Dawn is giving a talk to the Geelong Historical Society on Nov 7 at the venue Jennifer Bantow gave on this list this morning, so if you live in Geelong you could meet her in person. She would have details of the land occupation in the district, I imagine. In the case of our Highton Wesleyan church and most others, the church was built on a grant of Crown Land, and only later passed into the ownership of local trustees. But sometimes a local patron donated the land. Best of luck with your searches. Marion

    09/01/2007 11:02:31
    1. [GEELONG] Geelong Auctioneers
    2. Pam & Trevor Jennings
    3. The Friends of the Geelong Heritage Centre are currently compling a booklet listing all ratepayers in Geelong in 1850 when the Geelong Town Council was first formed. As well as their names etc, we are also including a glimpse of life in Geelong in 1850 - businesses, deaths, births, schooling, churches, shipping, house sales, sport & entertainment etc etc. If anyone has connections to these auctioneers of the time, I would be delighted to include infor in the book. Kind regards, Pam Jennings R PARKINSON J G CARR HILL & HITCHINS Thomas HORSBRUGH S DUGGAN CARVER & DALTON R FAWCETT M O'FARRELL J Buchanan HUTTON R FORREST E WOOD

    09/01/2007 09:51:04
    1. [GEELONG] LONG & CRABBE families
    2. Pam & Trevor Jennings
    3. Many years ago I compiled a history of the Crabbe & Long families of Inverleigh etc. Now that I have lots of free time I am redoing this history, bringing it up to date and compiling it on CD for family members. If you are on this mailing list you may care to contact me off line with current email addresses etc and I would appreciate help in bringing your lines up to date. Kind regards, Pam Jennings

    09/01/2007 09:44:43
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church
    2. JenniferBantow
    3. Re Campfires at the Cross : an account of the Bunting Dale Aboriginal Mission 1839-1851 at Birregurra, near Colac, Victoria : with a biography of Francis Tuckfield, by Heather Le Griffon - Heather is giving a lecture entitled 'The Bunting Dale Mission 1839-1851, at the Geelong Historical Society on Wednesday September 5th 8pm upstairs at 51 Little Malop Street. Enquiries to the Secretary Freda Craddock 5278 3530. Jennifer

    09/01/2007 05:58:59
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church
    2. Marion Stainsby
    3. The first followers of John Wesley were expected to attend Anglican services, but their own preachers travelled from place to place, which is why their work was said to be in "circuits". By the time Victoria was being settled, they were becoming more a separate denomination, but still saw themselves as missionaries. Read "Campfires at the Cross" by Heather Le Griffin, which details tells how the first two Wesleyan ministers were officially appointed to Port Phillip, following visits from Rev Joseph Orton from Tasmania. And to save time, let me cheat and quote from some of my work-in- progress with others on the history of the Highton Wesleyan / Methodist / Uniting Church, St Luke's [Sneak Preview!]. > It has been said that the first ordained clergyman to lead a church > service in the Port Phillip District was the Rev Joseph Orton, a > Wesleyan, but this ignores the services conducted at Sorrento by > the Anglican chaplain, the Rev Robert Knopwood, during the brief > settlement there in 1803-4. Orton had recently been appointed > District Chairman for Van Diemen’s Land, and Henry Reed and others > persuaded him to visit Port Phillip to survey the effect of white > settlement on the aborigines. He held two services in Melbourne on > 24 April 1836, the second an open-air service in the afternoon, and > used the Book of Common Prayer on both occasions – applying the > Wesleyan rule that > > Whenever Divine service is performed in England on the Lord’s day > in “Church-hours” [i.e. the Anglican church], the officiating > Preacher shall read either the > Service of the Church, our venerable Father [Wesley]’s abridgement > of it, or, at least, the Lessons appointed by the Calendar. > At the 11 a.m. service > > … on the premises of John Batman [,the] liturgy was read by Mr > Orton, the responses were led by James Simpson, Esq. The tunes were > raised by Dr Thomson, afterwards of Geelong [and a Presbyterian]..... >> > Orton returned to Hobart, but as a result of his pleas the Rev > Benjamin Hurst and the Rev Francis Tuckfield and their wives sailed > from England in November 1837, with two other Wesleyan ministerial > couples bound for Van Diemen’s Land and Sydney. Hurst was to be > superintendent of the Mission in Port Phillip, but his health > suffered on the voyage, and the Tuckfields crossed Bass Strait > before him – Sarah Tuckfield, like so many pioneering wives, > already pregnant with their first child. In 1839 there was a small > but flourishing society of lay Wesleyans to welcome them, two of > whom, Edward Stone Parker and James Dredge, both local preachers, > had been appointed by the British Colonial Office as assistant > Protectors of the Aborigines. The Wesleyan cause in Port Phillip > was linked from the beginning with concern for mission, which > though it was expressed as bringing the gospel to unbelievers also > demanded justice and practical care. > In those 10 years, Orton had visited Melbourne again in April 1939. > He found that “the Methodist Society had swelled to the number of > thirty members”. Tuckfield and Hurst were travelling over a large > area to hold services, and Orton himself came to Geelong in early > May, and conducted a service in David Fisher’s barn by the Barwon > (now Faggs Mitre 10 extension), at which the singing was led by > Caroline Newcomb. In October 1840, deferring his longed-for return > home to England, he was appointed to Melbourne to take charge of 80 > members, 4 Leaders and 7 Local Preachers. The first Quarterly > meeting of the newly-independent Melbourne Circuit was held in > January 1841. Orton died at the age of 47 on his voyage home in 1842. > > Geelong Wesleyans record that “the first sermon in this place” – > that is, by an ordained Wesleyan minister - was preached by the Rev > Francis Tuckfield on 28 July 1838. His congregation met in Dr > Thomson’s parlour at “Kardinia”, and on other occasions in Fisher’s > barn... > > These were the ministers and leaders of the earliest Wesleyan > community in Geelong. Later, in 1841, the Rev Samuel Wilkinson > joined the Circuit, and by February 1842 the Geelong Wesleyans had > their own little church in Yarra Street. As they could not get an > ordained minister of their own, they appointed the layman James > Dredge as a hired Local Preacher, after he had resigned his > appointment as Assistant Protector. Dr Alexander Thomson provided > him with a rent-free cottage. Dredge’s health failed and he > returned to England, dying on the voyage like Orton. He was > succeeded by the Rev William Lowe in 1846, the Rev W Cox Curry in > 1847, and then in 1848 by the Rev Francis Tuckfield after the > gallant failure of Bunting Dale. Tuckfield was the first minister > of the new Geelong Circuit, which began in that year with a total > of 134 members, and included the Barrabool Hills. He was followed > by Rev Frederick Lewis (1850), with the Rev William Lightbody > assisting him in 185[2], and Rev Richard Hart from Sierra Leone in > 1853. It was assserted in 1914 that the first Wesleyan service in > Highton was conducted in 1853 in the Windmills’ house by Frederick > Lewis. At the moment I have lent out my copy of Dawn Peel's recent book on the year 1857 in Colac, and find I can't even remember its name correctly, but someone may be able to tell you what she says about the Wesleyans there. Good hunting! Marion

    09/01/2007 05:19:48
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. Susie Zada
    3. Hello Russell, For the period you're looking for I don't think you should be looking for a physical church building - basically it didn't exist then. In those early years, the various ministers would have been travelling on horseback from Geelong or Melbourne and although the baptism may have been listed at Colac they would be entered (often much later) in the register for their church in Geelong or Melbourne. Some statements from the Colac-Otway Heritage Study covering buildings in the area ............ "The Wesleyans did not establish a presence in Colac until 1858 and relied on a circuit minister for six years until a permanent local appointment was made. The Minister lived in a small, plain, single storey house until the congregation had raised sufficient funds for a new manse and church in the early 1870's. The manse, a two storey brick structure, was erected in 1872 at 81 Wallace Street for use by Rev. Groves." "A Wesleyan presence was established in Colac in 1859 with the erection of a small church in Church Street. This sufficed until 1874 when a larger church was built in Murray Street, a little to the opposite of the Commercial Hotel. There was some disquiet in the church community on this location in the main commercial street of Colac but it was not until 1924 that the site was sold and a new church and Sunday school planned for Skene street. While building works were going on the Wesleyans held services at the Victoria Hall." "The Regent Theatre (23 Murray St) was originally built as the Paramount Theatre in 1925. The site had earlier been occupied by the Wesley Church and was totally cleared to make way for the theatre. The original owner and promoter was John McDonald a Colac estate agent and dealer. The Regent Theatre Co of Geelong bought the property in 1931 and changed the name." So definitely no church in 1851. If you look at the Geelong & District directories ............ http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gddrsrc1.asp you'll see that Frederick LEWIS is listed in 1851 as a Wesleyan minister, Yarra Street, Geelong. And if you look at the Geelong & District Consolidated Book Index ....... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp you'll find plenty of entries by searching on LEWIS, F (also one for LEWIS, Rev Canon) that are for him. Hope that helps .............. Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac > Hello Linda, > That is an interesting article, I had read that this afternoon. The church > was a 20th century one I was after something much earlier. > Thank You > Russell

    08/31/2007 11:57:24
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. Wendy McLennan
    3. Russell, You could write to the Colac & District Family History Group Inc. P.O. Box 219, Colac 3250. They may be able to help you. Cheers.....Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Colac > Hello Listers, > I hope this is the right list for the Colac area. > I am researching my Harris family > I was wondering if anyone knew if the Colac Wesleyan church was still > standing and if there were pictures available. > I have tried google with no luck. > If the church is still there does anyone know if the records are available > either on the web or through Libraries. > The first child of Thomas and Emma Harris was baptised in this church in > Jan 1851 following her birth in Nov 1850. > Both Thomas and Emma were living somewhere in Colac at that time. > Are there any land records available for this area around that time. > > Thank you for your time > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/31/2007 04:34:46
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church
    2. Russell Harris
    3. Thank You Marion, That adds a little background to the baptism of Mary Jane. The book by Dawn Peel what information does it have in it? Is Dawn on this list? I have Peel's on my wifes side from Inverleigh Regards Russell The HARRIS family Thomas George Harris A Glenpatrick Miner Also...Collins and Carey I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way contact me, Russell on the email address [email protected] ----- Original Message ---- From: Marion Stainsby <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 1 September, 2007 11:19:48 AM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church The first followers of John Wesley were expected to attend Anglican services, but their own preachers travelled from place to place, which is why their work was said to be in "circuits". By the time Victoria was being settled, they were becoming more a separate denomination, but still saw themselves as missionaries. Read "Campfires at the Cross" by Heather Le Griffin, which details tells how the first two Wesleyan ministers were officially appointed to Port Phillip, following visits from Rev Joseph Orton from Tasmania. And to save time, let me cheat and quote from some of my work-in- progress with others on the history of the Highton Wesleyan / Methodist / Uniting Church, St Luke's [Sneak Preview!]. > It has been said that the first ordained clergyman to lead a church > service in the Port Phillip District was the Rev Joseph Orton, a > Wesleyan, but this ignores the services conducted at Sorrento by > the Anglican chaplain, the Rev Robert Knopwood, during the brief > settlement there in 1803-4. Orton had recently been appointed > District Chairman for Van Diemen’s Land, and Henry Reed and others > persuaded him to visit Port Phillip to survey the effect of white > settlement on the aborigines. He held two services in Melbourne on > 24 April 1836, the second an open-air service in the afternoon, and > used the Book of Common Prayer on both occasions – applying the > Wesleyan rule that > > Whenever Divine service is performed in England on the Lord’s day > in “Church-hours” [i.e. the Anglican church], the officiating > Preacher shall read either the > Service of the Church, our venerable Father [Wesley]’s abridgement > of it, or, at least, the Lessons appointed by the Calendar. > At the 11 a.m. service > > … on the premises of John Batman [,the] liturgy was read by Mr > Orton, the responses were led by James Simpson, Esq. The tunes were > raised by Dr Thomson, afterwards of Geelong [and a Presbyterian]..... >> > Orton returned to Hobart, but as a result of his pleas the Rev > Benjamin Hurst and the Rev Francis Tuckfield and their wives sailed > from England in November 1837, with two other Wesleyan ministerial > couples bound for Van Diemen’s Land and Sydney. Hurst was to be > superintendent of the Mission in Port Phillip, but his health > suffered on the voyage, and the Tuckfields crossed Bass Strait > before him – Sarah Tuckfield, like so many pioneering wives, > already pregnant with their first child. In 1839 there was a small > but flourishing society of lay Wesleyans to welcome them, two of > whom, Edward Stone Parker and James Dredge, both local preachers, > had been appointed by the British Colonial Office as assistant > Protectors of the Aborigines. The Wesleyan cause in Port Phillip > was linked from the beginning with concern for mission, which > though it was expressed as bringing the gospel to unbelievers also > demanded justice and practical care. > In those 10 years, Orton had visited Melbourne again in April 1939. > He found that “the Methodist Society had swelled to the number of > thirty members”. Tuckfield and Hurst were travelling over a large > area to hold services, and Orton himself came to Geelong in early > May, and conducted a service in David Fisher’s barn by the Barwon > (now Faggs Mitre 10 extension), at which the singing was led by > Caroline Newcomb. In October 1840, deferring his longed-for return > home to England, he was appointed to Melbourne to take charge of 80 > members, 4 Leaders and 7 Local Preachers. The first Quarterly > meeting of the newly-independent Melbourne Circuit was held in > January 1841. Orton died at the age of 47 on his voyage home in 1842. > > Geelong Wesleyans record that “the first sermon in this place” – > that is, by an ordained Wesleyan minister - was preached by the Rev > Francis Tuckfield on 28 July 1838. His congregation met in Dr > Thomson’s parlour at “Kardinia”, and on other occasions in Fisher’s > barn... > > These were the ministers and leaders of the earliest Wesleyan > community in Geelong. Later, in 1841, the Rev Samuel Wilkinson > joined the Circuit, and by February 1842 the Geelong Wesleyans had > their own little church in Yarra Street. As they could not get an > ordained minister of their own, they appointed the layman James > Dredge as a hired Local Preacher, after he had resigned his > appointment as Assistant Protector. Dr Alexander Thomson provided > him with a rent-free cottage. Dredge’s health failed and he > returned to England, dying on the voyage like Orton. He was > succeeded by the Rev William Lowe in 1846, the Rev W Cox Curry in > 1847, and then in 1848 by the Rev Francis Tuckfield after the > gallant failure of Bunting Dale. Tuckfield was the first minister > of the new Geelong Circuit, which began in that year with a total > of 134 members, and included the Barrabool Hills. He was followed > by Rev Frederick Lewis (1850), with the Rev William Lightbody > assisting him in 185[2], and Rev Richard Hart from Sierra Leone in > 1853. It was assserted in 1914 that the first Wesleyan service in > Highton was conducted in 1853 in the Windmills’ house by Frederick > Lewis. At the moment I have lent out my copy of Dawn Peel's recent book on the year 1857 in Colac, and find I can't even remember its name correctly, but someone may be able to tell you what she says about the Wesleyans there. Good hunting! Marion ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

    08/31/2007 04:20:27
    1. [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church
    2. June Catterall
    3. I've just consulted "A Century of Victorian Methodism" author C Irving Benson, First Edition 1935. I found no Frederick Lewis in the list of deceased ministers but a reference on page 99 to 'Victorian Methodism graduated into the status of a District in 1851, and Butters became the first Chairman .... 'The first regularly constituted District Meeting - as the Synod was then called - in Victoria was held by him on 9th September 1851 at which were present .....Frederick Lewis, Secretary; ....." page 441 'The 20th March1859 witnessed the opening of a church at Colac ..... "In 1864 Colac became a Circuit under the Superintendency of the Rev. J Catterall." p441 again 'Early in 1840 services were held in the home of Mr A Dennis and in 1858 the first Methodist Church was built at Warncoort' Also mentions 1856 prayer meetings in the Presbyterian Church 1858 service at Mr Dennis home with a Rev Hill from Geelong. And soon afterwards Lyon's Barn with home missionary John Hiskens. I'm a bit late with that but may help. June - (great grand daughter of the first Meth. minister at Colac.)

    08/31/2007 04:10:27
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. MD Ingram
    3. Hi Russell, The first recorded church in Colac was Presbyterian. Services were conducted by the Reverand Gow in 1847 in Hugh Murray's barn - a site now occupied by the Eventide Hostel. When visiting clergy of other denominations were passing through Colac, they used this also. No mention of a Frederick Lewis, perhaps he was one of the passing clergy. cheers Dorothy On 31/08/2007 8:02:00 PM, Russell Harris ([email protected]) wrote: > Thank you Dorothy, > That too is very interesting. It appears that before 1858 there was no > church. > This being the case where would the baptisms have occurred? Would they > have perhaps been at home or perhaps in the house of the minister. > The minister that performed the baptism for Mary Jane Harris in 1851 was > Frederick Lewis. > Regards > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: MD Ingram <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 31 August, 2007 7:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan > > Hi Russell, > > In the book "Forest, Lake and Plain" the following is mentioned. > > "By 1858 there were a number of Methodist families located in the area and the need for a church was felt. The goal was realised by the erection of a stone church built on land donated by Mr. A. Dennis in 1858. In the same year services were held at Ryan's > barn on the south-west corne

    08/31/2007 02:15:08
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. Pam & Trevor Jennings
    3. Yes this is the one in Grant Street. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac > Thank you Pam, > What street is this one on? Is it the one at Grant Street? > > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/31/2007 02:12:19
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. Pam & Trevor Jennings
    3. Hi Russell - there is a Colac Wesleyan Church still standing but it is a modern type building which may not be the original one you are seeking. The church is actually for sale at the moment. regards, Pam Jennings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: [GEELONG] Colac > Hello Listers, > I hope this is the right list for the Colac area. > I am researching my Harris family > I was wondering if anyone knew if the Colac Wesleyan church was still > standing and if there were pictures available. > I have tried google with no luck. > If the church is still there does anyone know if the records are available > either on the web or through Libraries. > The first child of Thomas and Emma Harris was baptised in this church in > Jan 1851 following her birth in Nov 1850. > Both Thomas and Emma were living somewhere in Colac at that time. > Are there any land records available for this area around that time. > > Thank you for your time > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District > http://www.zades.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/31/2007 01:49:30
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. MD Ingram
    3. Hi Russell, In the book "Forest, Lake and Plain" the following is mentioned. "By 1858 there were a number of Methodist families located in the area and the need for a church was felt. The goal was realised by the erection of a stone church built on land donated by Mr. A. Dennis in 1858. In the same year services were held at Ryan's barn on the south-west corner of Murray and Polwarth Streets. A half acre of land was soon purchased in Church Street for five shillings, where a brick Wesley Church was built, being officially opened in 1859". cheers Dorothy On 31/08/2007 7:24:46 PM, Russell Harris ([email protected]) wrote: > Sorry Listers, > My wife has just told me the story of John Wesley founder of the > Methodists... Sorry for my ignorance > > However the church looks to be a new one, the date is given as 1908. > Was this built where the old one stood or was the old one somewhere else > and perhaps has some other use. > does any one know of pictures of the olde church.? > > The time frame I have is > 1850's > > Regards > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm > now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Russell Harris <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 31 August, 2007 7:04:59 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan > > Thank You Dorothy, > They are great pictures, but I > can't see the Wesleyan church amongst them, can you give me some guidance please. > > Russell > > > > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Colli

    08/31/2007 01:41:38
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. linda and Stan Edwards
    3. I did locate this report from 2005 which says the wesley church and hall in grant st colac is under uniting church ownership. and relate to its status as a heritage building, it has some interesting descriptions so was obviously standing then if this is the same one. http://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/admin/file/content56/c3/Colac%20Church%20explantory%20note.doc linda

    08/31/2007 01:28:39
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. Susie Zada
    3. Hello Russell, Wesleyan = Methodist. Regards ............ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan > Thank You Dorothy, > They are great pictures, but I can't see the Wesleyan church amongst them, > can you give me some guidance please. > > Russell

    08/31/2007 01:14:54
    1. [GEELONG] Spare listings
    2. Russell Harris
    3. Hello again everyone, Is there anyone on this list that keeps spare B M or D certificates for the area and if so is there a list? I have heard of this somewhere but can not remember where. I will await to be enlightened. Russell The HARRIS family Thomas George Harris A Glenpatrick Miner Also...Collins and Carey I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way contact me, Russell on the email address [email protected] ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

    08/31/2007 12:11:26
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac
    2. Russell Harris
    3. Hello Listers, Thank you one and all for the response and information to date. From my original post I have answered some questions. >>I hope this is the right list for the Colac area. It seems to be the right list >>I was wondering if anyone knew if the Colac Wesleyan church was still standing and if there were pictures available. >>I have tried google with no luck. I think we can say for a fact that, at this early period there was no church building as such and by the time that the actual church building was built my family had moved on. >>Are there any land records available for this area around that time. I don't think we have answered this one yet other than the suggestion I write to the Colac Historical Society, which I will do. But if anyone has any other suggestions they would be gratefully accepted. This seems to be a very vibrant list with lots of very helpful participants, once again thank you all for your time and efforts. Russell The HARRIS family Thomas George Harris A Glenpatrick Miner Also...Collins and Carey I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way contact me, Russell on the email address [email protected] ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

    08/31/2007 11:58:09
    1. [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. MD Ingram
    3. Try this site for great pictures. cheers Dorothy http://sinpic.slv.vic.gov.au/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=colac+weslyn+church&Search_Code=FT*&PID=WDylbipY2eqzZp0LcVtxlShwEOTaK&SEQ=20070831172459&CNT=15&HIST=1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Di Randell To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan > I was wondering if anyone knew if the Colac Wesleyan church was still standing and if there were pictures available. > I have tried google with no luck. >Hello Russell Google PictureAustralia ... there is a picture of Methodist Church at Colac. Di R. Brisbane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/31/2007 11:26:51
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. Di Randell
    3. > I was wondering if anyone knew if the Colac Wesleyan church was still standing and if there were pictures available. > I have tried google with no luck. >Hello Russell Google PictureAustralia ... there is a picture of Methodist Church at Colac. Di R. Brisbane

    08/31/2007 11:17:58
    1. Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan
    2. Russell Harris
    3. Thank you Dorothy, I had thought him to be more permanent as the page I have list baptisms from December 1850 right through to February 1851. Most but not all were performed on Sunday. Russell The HARRIS family Thomas George Harris A Glenpatrick Miner Also...Collins and Carey I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way contact me, Russell on the email address [email protected] ----- Original Message ---- From: MD Ingram <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 31 August, 2007 8:15:08 PM Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan Hi Russell, The first recorded church in Colac was Presbyterian. Services were conducted by the Reverand Gow in 1847 in Hugh Murray's barn - a site now occupied by the Eventide Hostel. When visiting clergy of other denominations were passing through Colac, they used this also. No mention of a Frederick Lewis, perhaps he was one of the passing clergy. cheers Dorothy On 31/08/2007 8:02:00 PM, Russell Harris ([email protected]) wrote: > Thank you Dorothy, > That too is very interesting. It appears that before 1858 there was no > church. > This being the case where would the baptisms have occurred? Would they > have perhaps been at home or perhaps in the house of the minister. > The minister that performed the baptism for Mary Jane Harris in 1851 was > Frederick Lewis. > Regards > Russell > > The HARRIS family > Thomas George Harris > A Glenpatrick Miner > Also...Collins and Carey > I'm now mining for information if you can help in any way > contact me, Russell on the email address > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: MD Ingram <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 31 August, 2007 7:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: [GEELONG] Colac Methodist Church Wesleyan > > Hi Russell, > > In the book "Forest, Lake and Plain" the following is mentioned. > > "By 1858 there were a number of Methodist families located in the area and the need for a church was felt. The goal was realised by the erection of a stone church built on land donated by Mr. A. Dennis in 1858. In the same year services were held at Ryan's > barn on the south-west corne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For on-line indexes and information on Geelong and District http://www.zades.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

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