Randolph and Agnes MILLER (nee McLelland) farmed Block 38 Section C of Tongala VIC in 1915. their 4 children were: 1 Randolph Miller Born Punjab Sabathu India Enlisted in Army in Bendigo VIC (resided at 60 Howard St. Reservoir N19 in 1967) 2 Robert Garrick Miller 3 Adam Alexander Miller 4 Agnes Miller Seeking any information on these individuals and their descendants. Indeed any information re Millers in Tongala from any source would be appreciated. Randolph Miller was born 5 Sep 1869 in Whithorn Wigtownshire Scotland, the youngest of 6 children born to Joseph Miller and Elizabeth Dickey. 23 Aug 1914 he joined the 7th Battalion Australian Imperial Force (Regimental No 870) at Echuca VIC. He died from wounds received in action at Gallipoli 19 May 1915 aboard Hospital Ship "Souden". Relations in Scotland and Canada would like to make contact with this family to share information and renew family ties. Iain Thomson Victoria, BC Canada

As a new researcher in Australia I have recently posted info on a "MILLER" family who lived in Tongala in 1915 on the AUS-VIC-L@rootsweb.com list and received one helpful reply. Now I have also found the AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com list and wonder whether I should post the info here for research regarding the townships of Tongala, Bendigo, and Reservoir? Helpful direction appreciated. Iain Thomson, Victoria BC Canada

As a new researcher in Australia I have recently posted info on a "MILLER" family who lived in Tongala on the AUS-VIC-L@rootsweb.com list and received a helpful reply. However, I just found this list and now wonder whether I should also post the info on this list for research regarding the townships of Tongala, Bendigo, and Reservoir? Helpful direction appreciated. Iain Thomson, Victoria BC Canada

My wife's great grandfather, James Anderson, married twice. His first wife, Jane Fellows, died in 1853 and her death certificate records that she had been married in Victoria, for 7 years (thus making it around 1846), to James Anderson. The certificate records five children - none of whom are noted as 'dead': John 6 Samuel 5 Agnes 4 Catherine 3 Infant 10 days Jane's cause of death was listed as 'Childbed' For some reason James' first marriage and the offspring are not noted on the second marriage certificate (1854). However, birth certificates for first few children of the second marriage all note the first marriage and the deaths of four of the children - Samuel being the only survivor. Diligent searches of the indexes has failed to locate a record of the first marriage or any of the five births. Nor has any trace of the deaths of the four deceased children. >From other evidence it is known that James held land in the Bulla/Wellington/Kakallo area. His first wife and her parents are all buried in the old Kalkallo cemetery - and the first few children of the second marriage were all born at Bulla. Can anyone throw any light on how I might trace records of these missing events? Peter, the older of the tworobbos @ Bairnsdale, gateway to the mountains, lakes, streams (and remnant forests) of East Gippsland

Dear researchers This message is being posted to a number of mailing lists - apologies for cross postings. Archives@Victoria, your new online gateway to the archives of the government of Victoria, will become available on Monday 29 April 2002. The address for Archives@Victoria is www.prov.vic.gov.au/archivesvictoria. Through Archives@Victoria you will be able to register as a PROV user, search PROV catalogues online and request and order records that you wish to view in one of our Reading Rooms. We believe our new system will be of great benefit to all researchers, particularly those from regional Victoria who will be able to order records prior to visiting our Reading Rooms. Please note. No original records will be available in our Reading Rooms during the roll-out period covering Friday and Saturday, 26 and 27 April. Normal service resumes when Archives@Victoria goes live on Monday 29 April. Any original records that you have on order at that time will be returned to our Repository, and you will need to order them again, from Monday 29 April. Public Record Office Victoria regrets this inconvenience, but these arrangements are necessary to ensure a smooth transition from our old to new systems. I will post further details by 29 April. Regards James McKinnon Manager Reference Services Public Record Office Victoria

Hi List, I'm researching my husband's family tree and am interested in these families. John Cole RANDALL m Mary Ann McMILLAN at Matlock 1867. Robert McMillan RANDALL b.1868 Ghin Ghin 1895 m. Helena PRINCE b.Avenel (dau of Joseph Prince & Eliza Jane MUTTON) in Collingwood. John Cole RANDALL b.1871 Yea No further information Flora McMillan RANDALL b.1873 Yea d.1964 Preston? 1908 m Alphonso Lewis WAUGH Ghin Ghin No further information John Cole RANDALL (Snr) died in Seymour 1874. Mary Ann went on to have 5 children with Samuel Coventry BUCKOKE who she married in 1888, the year of his death. These children were called RANDALL, though the infant Ellen appears as BUCKOKE on the Seymour Pioneer Cemetery's roll. George Coventry RANDALL b.1876 Samuel Coventry RANDALL b.1879 Elizabeth Coventry RANDALL b.1881 Henry Coventry RANDALL b. 1884 Ellen Coventry RANDALL b.1887 d.1889 Interested to hear from anyone researching these families. Regards, Christine Randall, Heathcote, Vic.

Would anyone know where Hoolcoat was in the 1880's. That is the name given as place of birth of bridegroom. With thanks, Robyn Clarke

Dear List I am trying to find my uncle and aunt as above. Although we haven't heard from Eric since the end of WW2, his ex-wife, Val, used to write to Eric's family in the UK. However, we haven't heard from her in two or three years. Our last know address for Val is as follows but we have had one letter returned: 2/52 Railway Crescent Moorabin Victoria Is this the right list for this town? Eric would be 75 this year and we think Val was a little older. This tends to suggest that she has moved, possibly to an old people's home, or passed away. Eric was actually christened Alfred (Forbes?) Foot and born in Guildford, Surrey. Val was his second wife. He had a son by his first and we know nothing of them at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Julie

OK Marg, and thanks for badgering him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Marg Andrews" <nandrews@caloundra.net> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > Mike, I am answering for Neil as he wouldn't have any idea where his family > came from apart from his parents!! > Neil's father and grandfather came from North Norwood and Birmingham areas. > I haven't done a lot on them so far as it is a constant dead end. However > we do know that our Andrews from his Grandfather down are running out of > descendants to carry on the name. Only one is our grandson and he is the > Navy currently involved in the Afghan thing as his his great great g/father > before him!! > Neil's grandparents were Arthur John Edwin Andrews and Jessie Edith Pounds > born about 1875-1880. > So sorry Mike, no joy on this one. > Marg A.

Mike, I am answering for Neil as he wouldn't have any idea where his family came from apart from his parents!! Neil's father and grandfather came from North Norwood and Birmingham areas. I haven't done a lot on them so far as it is a constant dead end. However we do know that our Andrews from his Grandfather down are running out of descendants to carry on the name. Only one is our grandson and he is the Navy currently involved in the Afghan thing as his his great great g/father before him!! Neil's grandparents were Arthur John Edwin Andrews and Jessie Edith Pounds born about 1875-1880. So sorry Mike, no joy on this one. Marg A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Skurrie" <mskurrie@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > Hi Marg, > > My question is actually for Neil. Where is your Andrews family from? My > Andrews family came originally from Pewsey in Wiltshire. Associated surnames > are Fox, Bodycoat, Payne, Aldous, Ward, Watts and Payne. Many wound up in > the Woodstock, Epping, Wohlert area. One of the Andrews, Phoebe Jane, > married a William George Payne, and they raised their family in Alexandra. > > Mike Skurrie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil & Marg Andrews" <nandrews@caloundra.net> > To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:52 PM > Subject: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > > > > Hello to all, The names that I am researching in the Central district > are: > > > > DOCKING, FELL, BOYCE, KEMP, ELLIOTT, PALMATEER, POPPLE, YOUREN > > > > Does by chance anyone have the Census for 1850 to 1900 for Alexandra ? I > would like to trace the movements of these at that time as I am writing > their history. > > > > Marg A. > > > > > >

Dear Peter and Elaine, The Kilmore Mechanics site has been updated at: www.kilmore.info Kind Regards, Elizabeth Pidgeon 'Leafy' Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/pid01.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lakeman" <surreal@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [AVC] Kilmore Historical Society > Hello Elaine, > > Try > http://www.theruralstore.com.au/MechanicsInstitute/KilmoreThereIsSomethingIn ItForYou.html > which contains a lot of Kilmore contact points. > (sorry if the above URL breaks up into two lines). > > Cheers > > Peter > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > [snip] > >... KILMORE Historical Society ... now wondering if there is anyone > >connected to this list who may be a member of this society who can find > >out who is the president or secretary to this society as I have mislaid > >the information and the phone number. > > ______________________________

Kilmore Historical Society is now online. The website contains information on its research service, including a list of its resources and membership details and a list of articles which have recently appeared in its newsletter. This includes the most recent article online: World War 1 soldiers and nurses of the Kilmore District. A brief history of Kilmore can be found in addition to other features such as a description of the Old Kilmore Courthouse, virtual gallery and current projects. Please visit: www.kilmorehistory.info Kind Regards, Elizabeth Pidgeon 'Leafy' Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/pid01.html

Dear Leona, What are your KENNEDY interests? I have Ann, Bridget, Richard and Thomas Kennedy departed Tipperary, Ireland via Plymouth, England aboard the Joshua in late 1851. They were the children of Mathew KENNEDY and Margaret DWYER. Ann married Thomas O'BRIEN. They settled first in Kilmore, Vic. and later moved to the Shepparton area. Ann and Thomas had six children. Richard died in Melbourne a year after their arrival unmarried. Thomas married a fellow Tipp, Alice COMAN, whose family had settled at Kyneton, Vic. They too, first settled in the Kilmore area then moved north to the Shepparton area. They had seven children. Margaret married Andrew PATTISON from a large renowned Shepparton family. They in turn had ten children. John went to Yerong Park, NSW. Mathew married Kathleen O'BRIEN. They had no children. Thomas operated a creamery at Caniambo. Ellen married John ROSEINGRAVE and settled in Daylesford, Vic. Thomas and Alice had two daughters who died in infancy. Thomas died in 1907 age 73 and is buried with his wife in the Violet Town cemetery. Bridget married Cornelius COMANS and died in 1926 aged 94.Kind Regards, Elizabeth Pidgeon 'Leafy' Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/pid01.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leona Smithurst" <kingskid@ozxpress.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: [AVC] Re: My NAMES Interests > Hello, > I am researching > CUNDY: William Henry, and Harold > SOUTHAM > SCANLAN > OSWALD: Michael Henry and Henry Herbert > KENNEDY: > SMITHURST > Any one with possible interest in any of these and/or allied names......It > would be great to hear from you, from Leona in Toowoomba Queensland. > kingskid@ozxpress.com.au > > ______________________________

Dear Listers, I am researching the STILLMAN & related JOHNSON families of the Alexandra area. Does anyone have any interest in or information on these two families ? Cheers, -- Brett Weinberg bweinberg@bigpond.com

I need help to find more details on my ancestors. Looking for RUSSELL descendants of James Russell and Mary Ann O'Grady married 9th August 1854, St.Patricks Church,Kilmore. RUSSELL could be spelt RUSSEL. Bridget born 1857 Mt.Macedon married John Roy 1878 Carlton, widowed and re-married Magnus Johnston at Albury NSW Arthur born 1858 Anne born 1860 John born 1860 Michael William or William Michael (Russel?) 1862 Beechworth my g.g. grandfather married Mary Ann Teague Penglase (born Clunes) in Melbourne 1884 James born Chiltern 1864 Frederick born 1866 Madman's Gully Margaret and Susannah (twins) born Beechworth 1867 Can anyone help with this query? I am at a dead loss. Also I am trying to find how James arrived here from Dublin prior to 1854 and Mary Ann Grady (O'Grady) came from Co.Clare prior to 1854. Ernene Smedley

Hello everyone, I have been searching for many years for ANY information on my mysterious Grandmother, Mabel ROBINSON. Mabel was born 5 Dec 1893 at Carlton Women's Hospital to Mary ROBINSON. (No father listed) Mary was listed on Nannas birth certificate as being aged 23 and born in Seymour. The only birth I can locate for Mary in the area and in the general time frame is for a Mary Jane ROBINSON, born to George and Mary Jane (nee JOHNSTON) ROBINSON in Mangalore in 1870. This Mary Jane married James Ernest SPEIRS in 1892, before my Nanna was born. Mary died in 1946 and her death certificate does not list Mabel as one of her children. My Grandmothers 1920 W.A marriage certificate states that her parents names were William Thomas ROBINSON and Mabel nee JOHNSON. Her parents were listed as both deceased on her marriage certificate and Nanna always said they were buried in Seymour. I can find absolutely no trace of these 2 anywhere, but the above Mary ROBINSONs parents were both dead by then (1908 & 1909). I tend to believe that Nanna may have been raised by her Grandparents or Aunt/Uncle as one of their own. My Nanna used to talk about living at 13 Emily St, Seymour as a child, but the Seymour Historical Soc says that the houses were not numbered until the 1940s. My Nanna was living in W.A by at least 1907 and I can find no trace of her supposed parents here either. The first record I can find for Mabel in WA is the Electoral Roll for Southern Cross, where she is listed as working as a domestic for Alexander and Harriet McKAY, of Hope Hill Farm. Alexander and Harriet were also the witnesses at Mabels wedding and Mabels illegitimate daughter was also born at their farm in 1916. I wonder if they may have been relatives? I have contacted the Anglican Church Wangaratta Diocesan Registry and they have no record of Nans Baptism in the area. Nanna was very secretive about her family, and apart from saying that she was an only child and lived in Emily St, Seymour, she said little else. The only one of her children that is surviving, is also very secretive and tells me to "stop trying to dig up dirt" whenever I ask about the family. Of course, this makes me even more determined to find out!<g> I hope you can understand this jumble and any help or advice would be VERY much appreciated! Cheers, - Dot Wells (nee Maclean) Perth, Western Australia. mailto:wells@wanet.com.au Research Names http://www.perthdps.com/research/wel02.html CUST Families Of Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dotwells/index.html My MACLEAN Families http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dotwells/mindex.html

Hi Marg, My question is actually for Neil. Where is your Andrews family from? My Andrews family came originally from Pewsey in Wiltshire. Associated surnames are Fox, Bodycoat, Payne, Aldous, Ward, Watts and Payne. Many wound up in the Woodstock, Epping, Wohlert area. One of the Andrews, Phoebe Jane, married a William George Payne, and they raised their family in Alexandra. Mike Skurrie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Marg Andrews" <nandrews@caloundra.net> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > Hello to all, The names that I am researching in the Central district are: > > DOCKING, FELL, BOYCE, KEMP, ELLIOTT, PALMATEER, POPPLE, YOUREN > > Does by chance anyone have the Census for 1850 to 1900 for Alexandra ? I would like to trace the movements of these at that time as I am writing their history. > > Marg A. > >

Thanks Chris, I DID try and convince everyone I know to tick the box, so I should have known that I wasn't going to get old records. I am interested in the one in SA in late 1800's though, thanks. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wynn" <cwynn2@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra Rellies > Marg > > The Census act, since its inception in this country, has been very strict in its confidentiality, and as a result, we have been diligently destroying our nations history every five years or so. Only one census that I am aware of survived all of this - one in South Australia that survived the late 1800's. You would have to find a South Australian site with this information. > > In the history of the Census, there has been only one exception to this rule, and that was the last Census, when the Australian Bureau of Statistics gave us the opportunity to tick yes and have our names placed in a timecapsule. > > All of those people who are terrified of Censuses because of the confidential nature of them need not fear, because, true to the Census Act, they are all, indeed, destroyed. And, I might add, it's a bit of a shame, because they contain nothing that the Government can't find out about us already. > > Cheers > > Chris > >

Marg, have you written to the local history society at Alexandra, I find the historical societys a great place to start, then posting specific queries to the list will often bring good results Mary -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 17 April 2002 10:08:49 PM To: AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies Thanks for bringing my brain into this century Mary. Why else did we sign that we wanted the Census records kept in future (at the last Census). What is my chances of getting information some other way then, and how? Can you help here please? Marg A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dean" &lt;Deans@bigpond.com> To: &lt;AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > Marg, > as far as I know no census records for any Australian state have been kept > Mary > > -------Original Message------- > > From: AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 17 April 2002 08:47:24 PM > To: AUS-VIC-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AVC] Mostly Alexandra rellies > > Hello to all, The names that I am researching in the Central district are: > > DOCKING, FELL, BOYCE, KEMP, ELLIOTT, PALMATEER, POPPLE, YOUREN > > Does by chance anyone have the Census for 1850 to 1900 for Alexandra ? I > would like to trace the movements of these at that time as I am writing > their history. > > Marg A. > >

Marg The Census act, since its inception in this country, has been very strict in its confidentiality, and as a result, we have been diligently destroying our nations history every five years or so. Only one census that I am aware of survived all of this - one in South Australia that survived the late 1800's. You would have to find a South Australian site with this information. In the history of the Census, there has been only one exception to this rule, and that was the last Census, when the Australian Bureau of Statistics gave us the opportunity to tick yes and have our names placed in a timecapsule. All of those people who are terrified of Censuses because of the confidential nature of them need not fear, because, true to the Census Act, they are all, indeed, destroyed. And, I might add, it's a bit of a shame, because they contain nothing that the Government can't find out about us already. Cheers Chris