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Hello Bob, I'm not sure that I'd presume it was pre-arranged that your father came out specifically to work for Ernest Rees LAVER - more likely he came out and found work here. It would be different if Ernest LAVE or Peter George FICK (associate of LAVER) were from England and there was some sort of connection back there but both were born in Australia. Was George MAMMATT an architect before he arrived in Australia? A couple of suggestions, but remember that 1913 was the year before the war so there are all sorts of possibilities in that interim period to 1918, but you should check Post Office Directories for that period (Sands & McDougalls Directories) on microfiche in the genealogy section at the State Library if you don't have access elsewhere. They were published annually - not sure if any were not published during the war but I think they all were. Also contact the Royal Australian Institute of Architects Victoria (The RAIA was formed in 1930 when the state bodies combined to form a National body, hence the RVIA would have been in existence when your father arrived) - and see if they can provide references to him joining the RVIA or point you to the records that might help (many are in the archives at Melbourne Uni). I would actually look at the history of Ernest LAVER which might give you more clues - LAVER was Melbourne based until c.1893 when he moved to Narrandera (NSW) and then to Cootamundra by c.1904. Prior to leaving Melbourne he was in partnership as LAVER & FICK and then by c.1893 LAVER, FICK & VANCE. FICK continued the Melbourne practice until his death in 1924 and it then continued as FICK & Son with his son Verner FICK carrying on the business. So it's more likely that Peter George FICK advertised in Melbourne, your father had some form of contact with FICK, and FICK referred him on to his former partner Ernest LAVER in Cootamundra - that seems a far more likely scenario than him coming out specifically to work for LAVER. I'll send you an email off-list with a couple of biographical reports I've done on LAVER & FICK that might help you with this scenario. Hope that helps ............ Susie Zada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mammatt" <email@example.com> To: <AUS-VIC-ARCHITECTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [VICARCH] George MAMMATT, Architect > Hello Listers, > I'm not quite sure what this mailing list covers, but I'm trying to find > anything I can on my father, George MAMMATT, a young (25) architect from > Manchester who arrived in Victoria in 1913 on board SS Persic. He next > turned up in Cootamundra, NSW, as an assistant to architect, Ernest R > Laver > (also an Englishman). (I would think this had all been prearranged). I > have > a record of my father in Cootamundra in early 1918, but I don't know what > was happening in the intervening years.I thought that perhaps the > "Architect" mailing list might be a possible source of information from > the > professional point of view. Maybe someone knows how to find such info'. My > father remained in Cootamundra as a practising architect until his death > in > 1940. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Bob MAMMATT > Melbourne.
Hello Listers, I'm not quite sure what this mailing list covers, but I'm trying to find anything I can on my father, George MAMMATT, a young (25) architect from Manchester who arrived in Victoria in 1913 on board SS Persic. He next turned up in Cootamundra, NSW, as an assistant to architect, Ernest R Laver (also an Englishman). (I would think this had all been prearranged). I have a record of my father in Cootamundra in early 1918, but I don't know what was happening in the intervening years.I thought that perhaps the "Architect" mailing list might be a possible source of information from the professional point of view. Maybe someone knows how to find such info'. My father remained in Cootamundra as a practising architect until his death in 1940. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bob MAMMATT Melbourne. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 7/11/2006
Hi Yolande, I'm amazed - your message is exactly one of the benefits I had envisaged from this list! I'm one of those odd people who work in two "history" worlds - one in genealogy / family history, and one in heritage (the built environment) and I've had so much success in the heritage research area by using real genealogy and family history to fill in the facts and complement the heritage work! I'm even more amazed that "your" architect was one who practised in the Geelong region - not because I wasn't aware of his work here but one of my longer term aims is to add to the Geelong & District web pages a "local" architects" site, possibly along the lines of what I've done for local photographers .......... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdphot.htm Do you have a lot of information on his works? There are some publications and manuscripts that might provide more info if you're interested. Regards ............. Susie Zada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolande & Rodney James" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: <AUS-VIC-ARCHITECTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: [VICARCH] Benjamin BACKHOUSE > Benjamin BACKHOUSE > bap 23 August 1829 Tackett St Independent Church, Ipswich, Suffolk, > England. > father: Benjamin Backhouse (variously described as stonemason and > architect) > mother: Mary Ann, formerly Prentice, nee FULLER. > rest snipped .........
Benjamin BACKHOUSE bap 23 August 1829 Tackett St Independent Church, Ipswich, Suffolk, England. father: Benjamin Backhouse (variously described as stonemason and architect) mother: Mary Ann, formerly Prentice, nee FULLER. married: (i) 20 August 1849, Ipswich SFK, ENG. to Lydia Warne JOHNSON (ii) 16 Dec 1903, Sydney AUS. to Emma SANDAY died: 29 July 1904 "Ardath", Queen St, Rushcutters Bay, NSW, AUS. buried: 30 July 1904, Church of England section, Rookwood Cemetery, NSW, AUS. He was my great great grandfather. There is usually some conflict or wrong information in books about his mother. It is confusing but here it is: Benjamin BACKHOUSE snr married Mary Ann FULLER formerly Prentice 5 April 1822, and had at least 7 children. Mary Ann FULLER born 13 March 1795 Beccles SFK, bap 29 April 1795 Beccles SFK father: Thomas FULLER mother: Mary CHENERY married, firstly, 25 September 1817, Beccles SFK to George PRENTICE and had the following children: Mary Ann Fuller PRENTICE bap 12 July 1818 George PRENTICE bap 16 May 1820 Her husband George PRENTICE dies. Mary Ann Prentice nee Fuller then marries, secondly, Benjamin Backhouse in 1822 as above. Mary Ann BACKHOUSE, formerly Prentice, nee Fuller died 28 September 1842. BUT prior to this Benjamin had taken up with the daughter Mary Ann Fuller PRENTICE, and had children with her. In the 1841 and 1851 censuses, both 'wives' are Mary Ann and the children could have been the same family. Just thought I would set the record straight about Benjamin BACKHOUSE jnr's mother. He is the architect who practiced in Geelong with Reynolds, and in Ipswich, QLD (where I now live), as well as Sydney NSW. Regards Yolande. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006