Thank you Anne so very much. I just looked at Ryerson and Vivienne appears to have died, as MORRIS, 22 Sep 2009 - notice in Herald Sun and The Age on 24th - but of course I can't get to the Library in Sydney or Melbourne (we live in Coffs Harbour NSW) to see if any family is mentioned. I tried the Ryerson lookup but there is not a volunteer for 2009. I may be in Sydney in a month or so. Your help is really appreciated. HAzel