This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11048.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are some Public Trees on Ancestry.cpm you could search John Patrick O'CONNELL married Margaret KELLY in 1880 It is possible he had been married before to Mary TOOMEY in 1876 On the marriage record he says he was born Limerick Ireland..and on the Trees, state he was born abt 1854. You will have to post on some Limerick genealogy boards to get back further on your O'CONNELL line Name: Mary Bertha Kelly Birth: 1898 Death: 1984 - Preston, Victoria, Australia Marriage: 1921 Parents: Thomas Kelly, Mary Ellen Courtney Spouse: Patrick Aloysius O'Connell I suggest you buy the marriage cert to see if his fathers name and occupation are shown ( sometimes they aren't )..one of the Tree owners must have the marriage cert as they say he was 26 when he married Margaret KELLY in 1880....they have not added his parents so maybe the details are not on the marriage cert John Patrick OConnell Birth 1854 in Limerick Ireland Death Margaret Kelly Birth July 1856 in Tower Hill, Vic, Aust Bdm#9328 Death 24th Aug 1956 Margaret's parents: John Kelly 1825 - 1907 Margaret Carey 1836 - 1905 John KELLY left a Will - everything to his wife Margaret...you can search for others here: http://prov.vic.gov.au/wills-and-probate You could also try to figure out when John arrived by searching here - working with a birth year of 1854 perhaps http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-23 You could also try searching the old newspapers - use all name combinations and initials and maybe add places in the area provided 'Any of these words'..and narrow it to Victorian newspapers - you need to scroll down the page and tick the box for Victoria http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y Hope this helps a little Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.