This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I found him in 1856: Name: Walter Dudley Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1856 State: Victoria District: South Bourke Subdistrict: Templestowe living Upper Hawthorne - a butcher I found your Tree on Ancestry....I presume you are thinking he wasn't married to Mary Anne LOVE and the daughter Maria Lilla is not his? Also found this in the papers: North Melbourne Advertiser Friday 28 April 1876 Walter Dudley v William Cullen, goods, LI Os. Verdict for amount, with 234. Gd. costs. another court case here: South Bourke Standard (Vic. : 1861 - 1873) Friday 2 August 1861 I found the article about Alice Marian DUDLEY - the Walter here is referred to as a tradesman rather than a butcher or meat salesman...but then again maybe he was a tradesman for a while due to his bankruptcy He was in partnership with Alexander Edward BUTLER' butchers and publicans' which was dissolved 1858 he was a slaughterman in 1859 - big court case then Walter was,sadly, insolvent by 1863- a butcher, formerly of Camberwell he advertised a shop to let at the Hotham Meat Markets in 1868 a Mrs Walter DUDLEY is advertising rooms in the Brittania Hotel in 1878.....if she is the wife, then here is a son: Name: Maurice De Lacy Dudley Father's Name: Walter Dudley Mother's Name: Marion Obrien Pierse Birth Place: Emerald Hill, Victoria Registration Year: 1873 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 2426 and a daughter Name: Grace Edith Dudley Father's Name: Walter Dudley Mother's Name: Marion Pierse Birth Place: Hotham, Victoria Registration Year: 1877 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 22952 The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Tuesday 11 September 1877 DUDLEY. -On the 7th inst, at 56 Peel street, Hotham, Mrs. W Dudley of a daughter so now I know we are on the right track! death: Name: Maurice Delacy Dudley Death Place: Kew, Victoria Age: 61 Father's Name: Walter Dudley Mother's Name: Matilda Obriew Pierse Registration Year: 1935 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 9818 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Maurice was named after his uncle: Family Notices The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Friday 18 September 1903 p 1 Family Notices ...P. PIERSE.--On the 17th September, at St. Andrew's street, Brighton, Maurice De Lacey Pierse (late acting chief clerk Mines department, Victoria), dearly beloved husband of Alice Pierse, and only son of the late Wm. Fitzmaurice Pierse, super- intendent Metropolitan Police, London, England, in his ... if so: Name: Walter Dudley Spouse Name: Marion Pierse Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1867 Registration Number: 3184 Marian's parents: William Fitzmaurice Pierse 1804 - 1846 Elizabeth Dede 1812 - 1893 she was baptd: London 22 Nov 1839, Spitalfields her father was the Superintendent of Police, and they lived at Prince Street ( probably more about him in the UK papers, but he died 01 Feb 1846) The whole family emigrated, including the mother, Elizabeth PIERSE- you can see this Tree on Ancestry- has lots of info poss an earlier marriage: Name: Walter Dudley Spouse Name: Elizabeth Bedwell Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1854 Registration Number: 3069 You will find 2 PIERSE Wills online: http://prov.vic.gov.au/search_results?searchid=54&format=freetext&FamilyName=pierse&GivenName=&AltName=&Occupation=&Residence=&DEATH_YEAR=0&DEATH_YEARto=0&SearchRecords=25&x=0&y=0 the mother appointed Marian O'Brien DUDLEY as one Executor ( 1893) 1854: On the 18th inst., by license, at Christ Church, Geelong, by the Rev. J. Potter, Mr. John Whiteman, of Ryrie-street, Geelong, to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late William Fitzmaurice Pierse,Esq., of the City of London. 1869 - death M'LEOD.-On the 16th inst., being the eleventh anniversary of her birthday, at the residence of her uncle, No. 270 Cardigan-street, Carlton, Elizabeth Fitzmaurice, eldest daughter of William Alex. and. Florence J. M'Leod, and granddaughter of the late William Fitzmaurice Pierse, Esq., superintendent of police, London. 1893 HILL-MASTERS. -On the 8th inst., at the Holy Trinity Church, East Melbourne, by the Rev. W. G. Hindley, William Jno., second son of the late William Hill (Walter Hill), of Mayfield, Sussex, England, to Minnie Annie De Lacy, daughter of J. G. Masters, of McKean-street, North Fitzroy, and granddaughter of the late William Fitzmaurice Pierse, formerly superintendent of police, London. No cards. Home and New Zealand papers please copy. Not sure what happened here!: Name: Maria De Lacey Dudley Spouse Name: Marion Mabel Masters Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1903 Registration Number: 954 Name: Amelia Pierse Spouse: John George Masters Marriage: 1866 - Victoria This article is very interesting and should keep you busy for a while:search for PIERSE Illustrated Australian News for Home Readers (Melbourne, Thursday 7 November 1872 there is a lot more, but you can find a lot through the newspapers etc Hope this helps Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.