HI Jocelyn Thanks, no I did not receive the message!!! I also posted a message on Rootsweb and it has not appeared from yesterday morning!! Okay so now I have to remember also what's been said (Oh Dear) Charles Starr died in 1860 (Where in Oz or UK) Mine died here in Temora NSW in 1897. This is a confusing one, Charles' marriage certificate has really thrown me off. Thanks for that Dianna