This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10966.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bryan I have just found your Tree on Ancestry and see you have Alice as Sarah Alice MARTIN b 1914, death 1963 in Chapman River WA, mother Sarah Alice MASON....just wondering where you got that info...and has it been verified in any way? I have found this birth..in England...no idea if it helps though! Births Sep 1868 MARTIN John Marten E. Grinstead 2b 117 East Grinstead spans the boundaries of the counties of Surrey and Sussex If so, here he is in 1871: MARTIN, John M 47 1824 Land Drainer Surrey MARTIN, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Sussex MARTIN, John Son M 3 1868 Sussex Address: Ivy Cottage, East Grinstead County: Sussex 1881 MARTIN,John M 57 1824 Bailiff Brockham,Surrey MARTIN,Anne F 44 1837 East Grinstead,Sussex MARTIN, JohnM 13 1868 Scholar East Grinstead, Sussex Address: Stone Cottage, East Grinstead County: Sussex The family seems to disappear after 1881, although there is a John MARTIN who married a Catherine? and had children but I am not 100% sure he is the fellow I have been tracing for you I found John Snr in 1861: MARTIN, John Lodger Unmarried 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer Brookham, Surrey Address: Martins Cottage, Saint Hill Green, East Grinstead also , finally, found John in 1851 - over in Wales! 1851: MARTIN, John Lodger Unmarried M 29 1822 Land Drainer Baethworth, Surrey Address: Tinewidd, Llanfihangel County: Cardiganshire You can order the marriage cert if you want to take a chance - the wife's name seems to have been missed from the Free BDM index! I can't believe it! Marriages Jun 1868 Martin John East Grinstead 2b 214 I also found this: Name: Marjorie Jessie Roberts Father's Name: Roberts Birth Place: South Australia Registration Year: 1907-1916 Registration Place: South Australia Page Number: 342 Anyway,let us know if you can add anything more Cheers Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.