HI I have a very confusing family history situation with the above. I have just received his marriage certificate to Maria Goody in NSW and it states that Charles Star was born in Victoria ( he was 24 in 1861). On his son's birth certificate it states Charles was born in Cambridge (England) and also on his death certificate it say's born in Cambridge, lived in NSW for 40 years (in 1897 Temora NSW) I'm trying to work out why he (or whoever) stated that he was born in Victoria and his parents are John Star (A farmer ) and ANN WRIGHT. Mary Wright is listed as mother on his death certificate. I'm just so lost now as nothing is adding up with this being Charles Starr from Foxton Cambridgeshire mother Ann LOKER and father John STARR. Help please any clues or suggestions. Kindest regards Dianna

Hi Dianna There was only one Charles STAR in Cambridge in 1841... I have accounted for some of his brothers as well STAR, John M 25 1816 Ag lab Cambridgeshire STAR, Ann F 25 1816 Cambridgeshire STAR, Charls M 6 1835 Cambridgeshire STAR, Thomas M 4 1837 Cambridgeshire STAR, Mary F 2 1839 Cambridgeshire STAR, Jacob M 0 (4 months) 1841 Cambridgeshire Address: Foxton Street, Foxton County: Cambridgeshire In a Workhouse in 1851 STAR, Charles Unmarried Pauper M 16 1835 Farm Labourer Foxton, Cambridgeshire Address: Bassingbourn, Royston County: Hertfordshire The rest of the family in 1851 STAR, John Head Married M 36 1815 Ag lab Foxton, Cambridgeshire died 1887, in Royston aged 72 STAR, Ann Wife MarriedF 34 1817 Foxton, Cambridgeshire died 1881 in Royston aged 65 STAR, Thomas Son M 14 1837 Agricultural Labourer Foxton, Cambridgeshire emigrated to OZ STAR, Mary Daughter F 12 1839 Foxton, Cambridgeshire poss emigrated to OZ STAR, Jacob Son M 9 1842 Foxton, Cambridgeshire emigrated to OZ,married twice STAR, Sophia Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar Foxton, Cambridgeshire -married Henry James COURSE, stayed in UK , died 1926 STAR, Sarah A Daughter F 3 1848 Foxton, Cambridgeshire -married Alfred NEWMAN 1872 - died 1916 STAR, James Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1851 Foxton, Cambridgeshire - married UK, emigrated to OZ 1874 - died Hurlstone Park NSW 1923, son, Harold 1888-1960,+ 2 others Address: Little Field Lane, Foxton County: Hertfordshire This is in the papers: Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal (NSW : 1851 - 1904) Saturday 30 November 1861 MARRIED. .., and at North Logan on the 25th instant, Charles Star labourer, to Maria Goody, domestic servant; I notice Charles and Maria Jane had a daughter called Sophia - must have been named after his sister(?) 1861 back in England: STAR, John Head Married M 46 1815 Agricultural Labourer Foxton, Cambridgeshire STAR, Ann Wife Married F 44 1817 Agricultural Labourers Wife Foxton, Cambridgeshire STAR, Sophia Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Farm Work Foxton, Cambridgeshire STAR, Sara A Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Farm Work Foxton, Cambridgeshire STAR, James Son M 10 1851 Farm Work Foxton, Cambridgeshire STAR, John Son M 6 1855 Farm Work Foxton, Cambridgeshire - stayed in Cambridge, married Emma NEWMAN 1882-he died 1937 Cambridge Address: High Street, Foxton County: Hertfordshire I see Jacob is missing from 1861...so I checked NSW..and also found this: Name: Jacob Starr Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Age: 15 Arrival Date: 27 Jan 1857 Arrival Port: Geelong, Australia Departure Port: Birkenhead Ship: Arabian Nationality: English and Welsh Name: Thomas Starr Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Age: 19 Arrival Date: 27 Jan 1857 Arrival Port: Geelong, Australia Departure Port: Birkenhead Ship: Arabian Nationality: English and Welsh Name: James Starr Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1851 Ship Name: Suffolk Port of Departure: London, England Port of Arrival: Rockhampton Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1874 Name: Sarah Starr Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1852 Ship Name: Suffolk Port of Departure: London, England Port of Arrival: Rockhampton Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1874 marriage 1570/1864 STARR JACOB to NEWTON HANNAH BERRIMA The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Saturday 25 December 1886 THE FRIENDS of Mr JACOB STARR are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his late beloved WIFE, Hannah ; to move from his residence, Short-street, off Henderson-road, Alexandria, SUNDAY AFTERNOON, at half half-past 1 o'clock, for the Necropolis. JOSH. MEDCALF, Undertaker, Redfern. marriage 2517/1899 STARR JACOB to GERRARD LUCY SYDNEY Sands Directory: Name: Jacob Starr Year: 1890 City: Alexandria - Short Lane off Alexander Street - no occ shown-in 1915 he was at Lyne Lane Death: 5594/1924 STARR JACOB JOHN ANN REDFERN - he had 7 children with 2 wives 2365/1949 STARR LUCY 88 YRS ALEXANDRIA REDFERN STARR.-April 15, 1924, at his residence, 23 Lyne street, Alexandria, in his 84th year, Jacob, beloved husband of Lucy Starr, late ganger, Sydney railway yard. STARR.-The Friends of Mrs. LUCY STARR, and of BERT STARR (of Norfolk Island), are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved HUSBAND and FATHER, which will leave his late residence, 23 Lyne-street, Alexandria, TO-DAY', at 1 o'clock,, for the C. of E. Cemetery, Rookwood. Friday 15 April 1927 STARR -In memory of my husband, Jacob Starr, died April 16, 1924 At rest inserted by his loving wife, Lucy Starr Wednesday 14 August 1929 STARR-In loving memory of Walter Starr, died in France August 14 1916. My dear son Inserted by his mother Lucy Starr. Saturday 19 July 1930 STARR. —In memory of Lance Corporal Victor J. Starr, 54th Battalion. Inserted by his mother. Lucy Starr Saturday 22 July 1933 STARR -In memory of Walter and Victor Starr killed July and August 1916 Inserted by their loving mother Lucy Starr STARR, Lucy.-February 28, 1949, at her résidence, 23 Lyne Lane. Alexandria, beloved mother of John William, aged 84 years. STARR, VICTOR JAMES Lance Corporal 4241 19/07/1916 22 Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Australian I. H. 3. ANZAC CEMETERY, SAILLY-SUR-LA-LYS STARR, WALTER Trooper 1767 14/08/1916 Australian Light Horse Australian O. 2. PORT SAID WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY ****You will see both these boys births were registered 1904 - but were born before the marriage NSW State Archives - memorial: Surname Firstname Branch Military Unit Page No STARR Walter Tramways Electrical 13th Battalion (12th Reinforcements) 26 Deaths 47065/1913 STARR THOMAS JOHN ANN GRANVILLE-needs to be checked as another STARR family were living there as well 801/1923 STARR JAMES JOHN ANN CANTERBURY - married Sarah HAGGER 1874 in Royston UK There is also this death: 28207/1943 STARR JOHN 7O YRS TEMORA UNKNOWN LIVERPOOL This might be Thomas STARR's marriage: 153/1863 STARR THOMAS STACK ( could be HACK) SARAH at SYDNEY In the NSW State Archives: Assisted Immigrant: STARR Charles 22 Washington Irving 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2476, [4/4972] Not sure if these are the same family: STARR Charles - Wagga Wagga 29 May 1878 Sheep stealing Wagga Wagga 017 NRS 849 7 2760 & 2761 0299 STARR Martha - Wagga Wagga 29 May 1878 Sheep stealing Wagga Wagga 017 NRS 849 7 2760 & 2761( probably the son of Reuben & Jessie ) 0491 STARR Robert - Temora 14 Nov 1939 Assault a female with act of indecency Cootamundra 220 NRS 849 17 - TEMORA, Tuesday -------------SMH Wednesday 9 August 1882 Charles Starr, free selector, found guilty ot being in possession of two carcases of mutton, the property of the New Zealand Loan Company at Temora station, was fined £50 and co»t<i,orsix months' imprisonment Probably others will be prosecuted 1,ve rv effort ih being made to find the hawker who purchases tho skins of stolen sheep 1 he losses from Temora station by stolen sheep are very heavy Heavy rain fell during lout night lhere are signs of clearing up now The rain put little water into the dams. I noticed a Martha STARR born to John & Maria in 1866 at Tumut - maybe John should be Charles? If so she married: 5685/1895 DOYLE EDWARD STARR MARTHA A TEMORA ........................................................ Name: John Star Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Apr 1816 Baptism/Christening Place: FOXTON,CAMBRIDGE,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Star - died 1846 Mother's Name: Elizabeth - nee EVERETT b 1783 John had a number of siblings born from 1804 Ann Loker christening: 1817 ,​ FOXTON,​ CAMBRIDGE,​ ENGLAND residence: Foxton,​ Cambridgeshire,​ England parents: William Loker,​ Ellen - nee PINK - they had other children as well - they married 14 Nov 1811 in Foxton Cambridgeshire ( from a tree on Ancestry) Hope this helps Cheers Jocelyn -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dianna charles Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012 10:22 AM To: aus-vic@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-VIC] Charles Star/Starr birth HI I have a very confusing family history situation with the above. I have just received his marriage certificate to Maria Goody in NSW and it states that Charles Star was born in Victoria ( he was 24 in 1861). On his son's birth certificate it states Charles was born in Cambridge (England) and also on his death certificate it say's born in Cambridge, lived in NSW for 40 years (in 1897 Temora NSW) I'm trying to work out why he (or whoever) stated that he was born in Victoria and his parents are John Star (A farmer ) and ANN WRIGHT. Mary Wright is listed as mother on his death certificate. I'm just so lost now as nothing is adding up with this being Charles Starr from Foxton Cambridgeshire mother Ann LOKER and father John STARR. Help please any clues or suggestions. Kindest regards Dianna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Jocelyn Thanks so much for all of that, I cannot make head nor tail of this marriage certificate, I've never seen anything so confusing. There was a bit of confusion on the shipping record for the Charles Starr who arrived in NSW in 1857, it stated that he came from Foxton Kent, there is a Folkestone in Kent, but Foxton is in Cambridge. I was just told that someone found a tree on ancesty and they saw that a Charles Starr died in England and the parents were John Star and Ann Loker, so if he died in England, I must have a different one here. Just doesn't add up. All the information you have collated is correct for the Starr brothers and sister that came to Australia. Also the immigration papers said that Charles did not have any relatives in the colony this was at the end of 1857, the other supposed siblings arrived early in 1857 unless they were not speaking to each other or didn't know each others plans. Now I will try and find a Charles Starr born to a John Star and Mary or Ann Wright. And it was him doing the sheep stealing for heavens sake this collates with all the information I have for them living in the area of Temora, Sebastopol, Bagdad. Thanks so much for taking the effort and time to reply it is very much appreciated. Kindest regards Dianna