This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicholls29 Surnames: Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11682.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jane, Is this the Joseph Ambrose SMITH, who appears in the South Australian, newspapers? What children did he have? When did he die, and do you have his death certificate? It may list "Time in Colony". Who were the witnesses, on his 1895 marriage certificate (maybe relations of his)? Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pd496237 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10768.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Emily, Great to hear from you, I have a couple of documents that may be of interest to you for your research and of interest for your family gathering. Please email me at the following address and I'll send the documents to you:- dowling.peterj@gmail.com Regards Peter Dowling Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RhondaEmbee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11683.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Veida The VIC birth index has the children for Richard HOCKING and Mary TRETHOWAN. Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 1. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Merino Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1860 Reg Number: 7702 2. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Mary Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWEN Birth Place: BALLARAT Year: 1861 Reg Number: 20102 3. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Elizabeth Jane Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1863 Reg Number: 12391 4. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Edith Louisa Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWEN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1865 Reg Number: 6546 5. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Letitia Ellen Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWEN Birth Place: BALLT Year: 1866 Reg Number: 19187 6. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: James Richard Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWEN Birth Place: BALLT Year: 1868 Reg Number: 21486 7. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Edith Maud Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1871 Reg Number: 6942 8. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Clara Rebecca Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1872 Reg Number: 21269 9. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Elizabeth Clara Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1875 Reg Number: 20779 10. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Florence Helena Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALLT Year: 1877 Reg Number: 12912 11. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Hilda May Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1881 Reg Number: 6789 12. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Ethelda Marion Saville Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Birth Place: BALL Year: 1884 Reg Number: 14459 TWO died as infants. Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Clara Rebecca Father: Richard Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Age: 2 Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 539 Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Marion Father: Richd Mother: Mary TRETHOWAN Age: 11M Birth Place: Death Place: BALLT E Year: 1885 Reg Number: 4116 Rhonda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VeidaPaul Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.5.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Rhonda. Bacchus Marsh is in Victoria Australia. The verbal family history is that the family were on their way to the gold fields in Ballarat when she was born. Veida Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VeidaPaul Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much. Veida. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VeidaPaul Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11683/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hilda May Hocking youngest of 12 children. Father Richard and I Mary Trethowan. Born 1884 in East Ballarat. Hilda married James George Swenson. Had 3 daughters. Died in Gardenvale Melb abt 1953. I can just remember her. Veida Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Jane, does his death certificate say how many years he spent in the colonies of Australia ? This helps to narrow down a year of arrival. cheers Jenny > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > To: AUS-VIC-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:54:54 +0000 > Subject: [AUS-VIC] Joseph Ambrose Smith > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: janemaryglenn > Surnames: > Classification: immigration > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11682/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Trying to find out when Joseph Ambrose Smith came to Australia. Have searched passenger lists world wide etc. but to no avail. Last known location before Australia was in 1889 in India (Bombay I think) with the 6th Dragoon Guards, though it appears he was transferred to the 5th Lancers before his discharge on 10 May 1889. He next pops up when he marries my great grandmother, Mary Brown on 5 March 1895 in Melbourne. He was born Poplar, London in 1847. Have checked the Families in British India website - nothing. Maybe I'm not searching properly but I think I've tried every which way! Any suggestions of where to check next would be hugely appreciated. Researching Smith/Brown families is challenging. Thanks, Jane > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11681.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Main thread here. http://boards.ancestry.com.au/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680/mb.ashx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janemaryglenn Surnames: Classification: immigration Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11682/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to find out when Joseph Ambrose Smith came to Australia. Have searched passenger lists world wide etc. but to no avail. Last known location before Australia was in 1889 in India (Bombay I think) with the 6th Dragoon Guards, though it appears he was transferred to the 5th Lancers before his discharge on 10 May 1889. He next pops up when he marries my great grandmother, Mary Brown on 5 March 1895 in Melbourne. He was born Poplar, London in 1847. Have checked the Families in British India website - nothing. Maybe I'm not searching properly but I think I've tried every which way! Any suggestions of where to check next would be hugely appreciated. Researching Smith/Brown families is challenging. Thanks, Jane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dj72green Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11679.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The family are indexed as HELL on the PROV unassisted indexes. It does look like like an 'e' but is probably an 'i'. The passengers were contracted to land at Port Phillip and Sydney. William's occupation is Tradesman. Debra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_juliamh Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11679.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Yes this is the right Hill family. It was interesting to see who the eldest daughter Anne married as I hadn't been able to find any husband for her. Thank you for your help. Julia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_juliamh Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11679.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for this information. It sounds like the most promising one I've been able to find. It would seem to fit with the other information I now. Thank you for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Vieda Paul replied on another thread. If it is the same family, Mary married Richard Hocking and they had12 children. John Trethowan and the Hocking family were involved in the North Wauchope Gold Mine. Their son James was a Medical Doctor who served in the Boer War. Mary Saville was the eldest. I know of Edith who was an artist, Rashleigh, Lena and the youngest Hilda May who was my grandmother. I have heard that a son was burnt to death in a house fire. I believe they lived at Mt Bloward for some time. Hida married James George Swenson son of William Edward Swenson who had a Tannery and was also involved in Gold Minning. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RhondaEmbee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James TRETHOWAN and Ellen SAVILLE were married 1840 in Constantine near Falmouth in Cornwall. These baptisms were all at the same place 1843 Constantine Thomas TRETHOWAN 1844 Constantine John Saville TRETHOWAN 1846 Constantine James TRETHOWAN 1847 Constantine Thomas TRETHOWAN 1849 Constantine Ellen Saville TRETHOWAN Maybe Mary's birth? 1841 Redruth disrict TRETHOWAN Mary I think the information you have is quite muddled as I cannot find a Bacchusmarsh in Cornwall. Rhonda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicholls29 Surnames: Trethowan Saville Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Veida, After the TRETHOWAN family arrived in 1855, I can see, another three children born to the couple. Name: Samuel Henry Trethowan Mother: Ellen Saville Father: James Trethowan Birth: 1858 - Ballarat East, Victoria Name: Eliza Ellen Trethowan Mother: Ellen Saville Father: James Trethowan Birth: 1860 - Ballarat East, Victoria Name: Edwin Trethowan Mother: Ellen Saville Father: James Trethowan Birth: 1863 - Ballarat East, Victoria Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicholls29 Surnames: Trethowan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Veida, The mining manager, John S TRETHOWAN died in September 1911. He was 67 Years old, so born about 1844. His Probate Packet: John S Trethowan Mine Mangr Ballarat 2 Sep 1911 124/004 VPRS 28/P3, unit 274; VPRS 7591/P2, unit 476 His death registration: Name: Jno Saville Trethowan Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria Age: 67 Father's Name: Trethowan Jas Mother's name: Ellen Saville Registration Year: 1911 Registration Number: 7576 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Here is the arrival of the TRETHOWEN family in 1855, to Victoria. TRETHOWEN ELLEN 0 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN ELLEN 36 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN JAMES 7 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN JAMES 40 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN JOHN 9 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN MARY 12 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN THOMAS 5 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 TRETHOWEN WILLIAM 2 JUN 1854 PARSEE 11 7 You can see, that the parents names were James and Ellen TRETHOWEN. Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VeidaPaul Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11681/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If it is the same family, Mary married Richard Hocking and they had12 children. John Trethowan and the Hocking family were involved in the North Wauchope Gold Mine. Their son James was a Medical Doctor who served in the Boer War. Mary Saville was the eldest. I know of Edith who was an artist, Rashleigh, Lena and the youngest Hilda May who was my grandmother. I have heard that a son was burnt to death in a house fire. I believe they lived at Mt Bloward for some time. Hida married James George Swenson son of William Edward Swenson who had a Tannery and was also involved in Gold Minning. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In your tree you have Mary born 1881 and thread says married same year!Mary is born Bacchus Marsh and came to Australia with Ellen??Where did you find her name recorded as Mary Saville Trethowan?There are several Trethowan families having children around Ballarat around that time. Ellen Saville Trethowan b 1882 is daughter Samuel Henry Trethowan and Elizabeth Larmuth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RhondaEmbee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11680.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is the TRETHOWAN and HOCKING marriage but much, much earlier. Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Mary Event: M Spouse Surname: HOCKING Spouse Gvn Names: Richard Year: 1859 Reg Number: 4597 They had eight children at Ballarat between 1860-1884. Deaths of TRETHOWAN siblings with mother nee SAVILLE. Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Jas Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 55 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 4463 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Thos Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 52 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1900 Reg. Number: 7811 Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Mary Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 63 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1904 Reg. Number: 293 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Eliza Ellen Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 47 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1906 Reg. Number: 296 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Jno Saville Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 67 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 7576 Surname: TRETHOWAN Given Names: Wm Saville Father: Trethowan Jas Mother: Ellen SAVILLE Age: 53 Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1904 Reg. Number: 11322 Rhonda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jackiecallinan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11679.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a William Hill, age 30, tradesman, together with his wife Ann 30, and daughter Ann 3, on the Windsor. The ship was from London bound for Sydney. However on Trove it mentions Melbourne. Unusually no mention of the ship on ProVic just on Trove and Mariners in Australian Waters. Newspaper mentions Windsor cleared 23rd October 1852 from Melbourne for Sydney with no passengers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>